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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:35 PM
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We're all fucked! The cosmic alignment of 2012 will get us all.
Watching the History channel; Nostradamus and Hopi predictions point to doom. So all of problems are moot.
I don't know about you, but I'm gonna have a beer.
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louis-t Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:36 PM
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1. I'll go back to smoking.
I miss it so.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:36 PM
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2. even worse news...beer to run out by 2011
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Sebass1271 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:40 PM
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3. ...
:rofl:
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:43 PM
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4. That would definitely cause the end of the world.
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MineralMan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:43 PM
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5. Damn. We might as well all do it in the road, then.
Now...where did I put that Cialis? Damn short-term memory!
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EnviroBat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:45 PM
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6. I'm not worried about Nostril Dumass.
Or his predictions...
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go west young man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:49 PM
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7. History Channel=religious BS.
National Geographic= Militray BS.
MTV= no music just BS.
TLC= Have a baby now.
All of em are crap these days. I suggest Joost or Hulu on a hispeed laptop instead. It's free and you have a choice. No tiered BS with 40 channels of religious programming on a Sunday morning.
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Blue_Tires Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:57 PM
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9. don't forget
ESPN = SHIT
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:16 PM
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11. Also Discovery = Blowing things up channel
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:51 PM
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20. Not that there's anything wrong with that
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:56 PM
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25. Oxygen = whiny chick flicks?
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:56 PM
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8. I go by the Ethiopian calender
It's 2001. We got time. Made it through another millennium too.
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dbonds Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:05 PM
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10. Look up sidereal astrology.
It is just the end of a 25,000 year cycle of the precessional cycle.

http://www.lunarplanner.com/HCmovies/HCmovie2x512Frame.html a good example on this page.
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:09 PM
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31. It's the dawning of the Age of Aquarius!
*insert dancing smiley here*
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:17 PM
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12. And the Mayans. Don't forget the Mayans.
It's not just all about "prophecy" - there might be some scientific basis for being concerned about this upcoming galactic alignment.

Wasn't there some gigantic upheaval about 13,000 years ago, perhaps a polar shift or something? Because that time frame puts us (Earth, or the solar system) 180 degrees from where we'll be in 2012, relative to the galactic center. My (limited) understanding is that we'll be in the same plane (think sine wave) where a whole bunch of celestial debris hangs out, such that an impact is highly plausible - an impact that could certainly affect our polar orientation (think about throwing a pebble at a rotating gyroscope and watching the subsequent wobble - and think about what sorts of effects that would have on global climate, volcanism, earthquakes, tectonic shifts, etc - imagine what would happen if the equator *moved* - which would happen if our spin/orientation changed. The geologic record seems to show this sort of thing having happened multiple times in the past).

So, I think there could be something to this. Not that we can really do anything about it, unless you want to take to living deep underground in a cave somewhere, and wait it out?

:shrug:
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:29 PM
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13. I believe that's when the electrical polarity of the earth's magnetic field
is due to reverse, but don't worry about it.

No place to go, dude. And after the first 40 minuste you won't feel a thing.

Hardly.


mark
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:40 PM
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16. Nope, it's not a magnetic pole shift to worry about
it's a geographic pole shift that is the concern - all it takes is a big enough hit or enough of a gravitational effect, and it doesn't need to be a 180 flip like with a magnetic shift - just move the axis of the earth's spin, let's say, 20 degrees in any direction - and think about how that means that the equator will also move correspondingly - and realize that due to centripedal force the earth bulges at the equator to the tune of some 40km or something (not sure about the specific numbers) - and imagine that that 40km bulge is now beneath your home. Or whatever.

No, it's not a magnetic pole shift that I'm concerned about
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:47 PM
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19. Well, the geographic poles shift from time to time - Earth is NOT stable,
you know....

mark
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:56 PM
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26. Sure, exactly. Most people don't really realize how fragile the balance is
I mean the polar balance. The image of a gyroscope really helps me visualize it.
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:03 PM
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29. A gyroscope, eh?
You mean those things with angular momentum which are particularly good at retaining the orientation of the spin axis?

Or were you talking about those greek sandwiches?
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:00 PM
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34. Yes, one of these:
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HiFructosePronSyrup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:54 PM
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23. lulz.
What exactly would you expect to cause the earth's rotational axis to shift twenty degrees?
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:57 PM
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27. Dunno, but it will probably involve Bruce Willis
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:35 PM
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38. *snort!*
hahahaa
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Generator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:31 PM
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14. It's just a time shift
Time is ending, gotta get back to the island.
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:33 PM
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15. I'm going to be a survivor.
I've had multiple psychics tell me I'll be living into my 90s. That carries me out to 2040 or so. Maybe it'll be a better world.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:43 PM
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18. Do you get a refund on your readings if their wrong?
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Blue_In_AK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:52 PM
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21. I think that would be "no."
I do like the thought that I've still got 1/3 of my life left, though, so I hope they were correct.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:41 PM
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17. Sorry, but I'm gearing up to watch a total eclipse in Texas in 2017
The end of the world will simply have to wait until after the eclipse.
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cobalt1999 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:54 PM
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22. I thought the switch over from 1999 to 2000 was supposed to doom us all.
It's funny to read history as every generation has some "end of the world" event just on their horizon. It's something that humans must be susceptible to believing.

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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:59 PM
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28. Nope, but it was a kick-ass time to be in IT
Oh for the glory days of ridiculous contracts for "fixing" Y2K bugs....
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TheMightyFavog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:32 PM
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36. 2012 is the new y2k.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 06:33 PM by TheMightyFavog
They Mayans probably would have marked the occasion with big celebrations sort of like we did nine years ago at New Years.

Gods, this end of the world in 2012 bullshit is just as annoying as the end of the world bullshit that was spreading around in 1999.
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Buns_of_Fire Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:55 PM
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24. ...which is 43 days before I'm eligible for Social Security.
Somehow, it just figures.:shrug:
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Baikonour Donating Member (979 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:05 PM
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30. You know, there is some science behind this.
Edited on Tue Feb-10-09 05:07 PM by Baikonour
On December 21st, 2012, our Sun and Earth aligns and crosses the equatorial plane (the center) of our Galaxy. This only happens TWICE every galactic revolution (every 13,000 years). So it's a rare occurrence indeed. Odd that it happens on the day the Mayan calendar ends, the day that Terence McKenna's Timewave Zero program (novelty theory) hits an infinite point, and so on. Some scientists are saying that the solar flare activity will be at an all time high (solar maximum) in 2012, and that the Earth's EMF will be extremely weak as well. A massive solar flare directed straight at the Earth, with a weakened EMF, would have pretty disastrous effects. Perhaps not dire physical effects (dependent on the size of the flare), but it would wipe out our electricity, our satellites, our credit cards, etc. That would certainly lead to a shift in consciousness, as many are saying will happen in 2012.

Of course, probably nothing will happen. It all just makes for some good reading. Check out John Major Jenkins.
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kimmerspixelated Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:51 PM
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32. But it's hard to believe something won't happen!
There have been so many books written on the gradual shifts in consciousness, that our greener sides are touching upon presently.. One thing I read said that our perception of reality will be so deep when it happens that we will be able to see previously unseen things perhaps the zero point field being one of them!

But certainly, one would think that there would be gradual changes we could measure before then! Not just the solar flare activity...


It's exciting to think we'll all (most likely) be around to witness it, or live through it, or pass on through to another dimension as the case may be!


I wonder if folks will even bother to even buy Xmas gifts that year!

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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:56 PM
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33. Something will happen, grass will grow, birds will sing, and Republicans will obstruct.
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Last Stand Donating Member (379 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:13 PM
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43. What's so hard to believe about End-of-the-World predications?
How about these...
Great floods (like the ones in the Midwest, Katrina)--and wait til the Poles melt.
firestorms (like the ones in Austrailia, Greece, CA)
Economic collapse...anyone?
War in the Middle East

Sure, I called 'em quacks, but you have to admit some of the doomsayers have scored some major points.

By the way, Yellowstone is over-due to blow up 1/3 of the US, not unlike 2 other volcanoes with a history of catastrophic eruptions at regular intervals in other parts of the world. All 3 would end most of human life the way we know it.


Science has played a role in much of the End-of-the-World thinking. The more I hear about this stuff, the more I realize that if you rely on science over blind conjecture or religion, it's hard to dismiss that much of this is coming true.
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happyslug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 12:26 PM
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44. It is NOT odd the Mayan Calendar ends at the same time.
The more people look into the Mayan Calender, the cycle seems to be based on the time between when the "Sun and Earth aligns and crosses the equatorial plane". This is what the Mayans seem to have based their "Long Count" on. The Mayans seem to have found about the alignment and then calculated it back and forward as the time period of their Calendar. Apparently this is believes to have something to do with avoiding negative number (i.e. BC).

You can see this in the Hebrew Calendar and even the Roman Calendar (Which used 753 BC on the Gregorian Calendar count as years 1). A.C. (Latin for "Since the Founding of the City" which meant the founding of the city of Rome) was, and is, used in addition to the AD year in Almanacs and other Calenders (Through most Calenders used by most people use only the AD date). The purpose of most of these Calendars was to pick a date so far back that almost every historical event occurred since the start of the Calendar.
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underseasurveyor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:23 PM
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35. She told me these things will occur at the end of this year
She is a nice lady, loves her pets, is kind, polite and pleasant. HOW we got on this topic I have no friggin clue but it did.

She asked me if I had ever heard of Planet X. Sure I've heard of it, I said, it's suppose to be the tenth planet that comes around every so many thousands of years... yaddayaddablahblah. She then proceeded to tell me that Planet X and the 'Zetas' will make their appearance by the end of this year and not 2012 and when this planet draws close there will be chaos on earth. Volcanoes, earthquakes, tsunamis, etc., and 300 mile an hour winds that will engulf the entire earth and the ONLY safe place to be is on a boat in the middle of the ocean for that will be the only place to find food. And President Obama will be the only leader in the world to speak of these truths to the American people and the world.

Too many holes in her belief to argue with her and what would the point be anyway.. She can believe what she wants and yea this woman is convinced that Planet X, chaos and the "Zetas" will be here by the end of this year.

So the good news is we won't have to wait until 2012 :-) Instant gratification, that's what I like.
I hate waiting;-) so I'm gonna start hittin' that beer:beer:
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Political Heretic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:33 PM
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37. You know.. maybe I should re-take up smoking until I see if we survive 2012.
Then quit again if we do. :)
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:36 PM
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39. Those predictions are baloney .....
.... I trust other, more reliable, sources of prognostications, thanks.

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omega minimo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:36 PM
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40. It's a great time of transformation
Can you tell?
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GentryDixon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:44 PM
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41. I'll be dead by then anyway with my health problems.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:51 PM
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42. Another 2012 doom prediction: Palin runs for President
Maybe that's what Nostradamus meant. :shrug:
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