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smkyle1 Donating Member (170 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:38 AM
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He's Mounting a Campaign Against the Fox Network
This article written by Kevin Lynn is urging people to stop watching Fox. Kevin says, "I personally consider Rupert Murdock one of the most dangerous people in the world. His network is pure propaganda that has damaged America economically, socially, and militarily." It's a short piece that's worth the read.

http://www.laprogressive.com/2009/02/09/waging-a-quiet-revolution-against-fox/

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:41 AM
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1. I pledge - never again k*r
Of course, I've never watched it but I like the idea!
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saltpoint Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:42 AM
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2. FOX bears false witness against others.
On purpose.


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Hardrada Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:51 AM
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3. Our local YMCA always has Fox on on at least two of the four TV screens.
We always make them change the one we are closest to and have written notes to get them to stop using Fox as a default TV station.
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Syrinx Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 03:55 AM
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4. I agree that Fox News damages America
But I wish Mr. Lynn would at least spell Mr. Murdoch's name correctly.

And from what I hear, Murdoch actually prefers the company of liberals, and that the conservative bent of Fox News is purely a position of staking out a business niche.
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dmr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:33 AM
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5. I already don't watch it or ABC, & regularly call my cable company to complain about Fox.
I realize my complaints don't go anywhere, but I do it anyway, while also asking for the addition to CSPAN-3.

I get no respect from Charter.

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 04:34 AM
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6. he is correct: FOX is the American Pravda
difference is, too many stupid Americans think FOX is their only choice
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woodwrite Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:03 AM
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7. Why not connect ALL the dots?
FOX News isn't Rupert Murdoch's only media operation. There's the Weekly Standard magazine, too,... and that introduces Bill Kristol to the discussion,.. which in turn links the whole dung heap back to the PNAC. Compare the list of PNAC signatories to Kristol's "contributing writers," ...or for that matter, to the Bush administration. Murdoch is, in effect, the media outlet for modern neo-fascism. Any halfway decent exercise in TV journalism could splatter Murdoch all over the landscape. He could be portrayed as the father of everything from the Iraq War to the Bush Depression. What's holding them back?
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:16 AM
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8. The Bush Depression - I like that and henceforth,
whenever I am talking to someone about the economy I am going to make sure I refer to it as "The Bush Depression". :toast:
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:23 AM
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10. I like it too and will definitely always say it that way from now on (nt)
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RJ Connors Donating Member (679 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:41 AM
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16. I've also starting using the word Republicanista in many
of my post, particularly on conservative websites. They really loose grip on that.
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ima_sinnic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:52 AM
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17. heh--good one! (nt)
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:27 AM
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13. how about: the entire msm is a propaganda organ of the state? nt
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woodwrite Donating Member (97 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:59 AM
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14. That IS a possibility
The Internet becomes ever more important. FOX is so bad that folks forget that Disney, GE, etc own the other media.
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:54 AM
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18. That is one of the purposes of faux
They make the other networks look credible.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 11:28 AM
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23. The "State" is now controlled by Democrats.
If the msm were the state's propaganda organ, the msm would now be trashing Republicans. That's not what's happening.

The msm is a propaganda organ of the Republican Party.

-Laelth
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 11:00 AM
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28. the state is controlled by democrats?
as i see it both parties together are only a part of who "controls" the state. arguably, corporations have the major controlling influence on the state (military-industrial complex, lobbying/bribery, e.g.) and politicians are mere pawns or servants of the interests of the rich.

the msm tends to run down democrats because: nothing the republicans ever propose is good for the people, but sometimes the democrats have to SEEM like they are doing something good for the people, or the whole charade would fall apart. the msm has to make it seem like the very little good that the democrats propose is effectively countered, "balancing" the sides, always in the interest of big money.

why do the democrats not scream, "Conservative media!", especially if, as you say, they now control the state?
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Feb-11-09 04:25 PM
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29. I still like to believe that "we the poeple" have some control over our elected officials.
At least we can vote them out every so often. Perhaps I am naive, but I am not yet willing to surrender "the state" to corporate interests (though I do not deny their tremendous and corrupting power). From what I have seen, the msm shills for Republicans, not for Democrats. At the moment, both the executive and legislative branches of government are controlled by members of the Democratic party.

:dem:

-Laelth
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tomp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 07:50 AM
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30. i understand your need to maintain your optimistic beliefs. ...
Edited on Thu Feb-12-09 07:52 AM by tomp
...about american politics. and i did concede that the msm favors republicans, though i explained why i thought they do that.

i also think that the "control" by the democrats is diminished to the degree that they play obama's post-partisan game, giving evidence to my idea that both parties play for the same team.

every now and then you optimists should pay heed to us pessimists. it's actually a healthy and balanced thing to do.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 08:15 AM
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31. I hear you.
I am certainly no fan of post-partisanism. I think Republicans should be ignored and steam-rolled.

Thanks for the response.

:dem:

-Laelth
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Enthusiast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:06 AM
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15. Yeah, what is holding them back?
This is the big question. PNAC's influence is far and wide. It is nothing more than a 21st century version of fascism.

After the elction on 2006 there was a tangible fear on the faces of Democratic legislators with a newfound majority. And they did nothing to upset the applecart, so to speak. I'm all for taking back my country.
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Iwillnevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:20 AM
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9. YUP!
Kevin gots a great idea.:toast:
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santamargarita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:39 AM
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11. I had Fox News banned from my cable channels
I did this a long time ago and can't remember exactly what I told the cable company - anyway it's not there!
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conscious evolution Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 07:56 AM
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19. When I did have a tv
I used the parental control function to block all fox channels.
I have also done the same to my moms TV.
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democracy1st Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:01 AM
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12. K & R I'll join him !
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:04 AM
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20. Interesting. I took the same stand with a restaurant in my hometown.
Never again will I grace the place.
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JohnyCanuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:10 AM
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21. Remember, Fox is under no legal obligation to tell the truth (video)
Fox News caved to pressure from Monsanto and killed a program which would have exposed the dangerous side effects to humans and cows from Monanto's Posilac, the Bovine Growth Hormone treatment for dairy cattle used to increase milk production.

As a result of an ensuing legal battle between Fox News and the two fired investigative journalists who had been working on the story, precedent has now been set that Fox News was not legally obligated to tell the truth to its viewers. As a consequence, the two reporters had an earlier unfair dismissal judgment (awarded by a court under Florida's whistleblower protection act) against Fox overturned.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eZkDikRLQrw
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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 08:10 AM
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22. That's More Than Faux Noise...
It's their regular network (sorry, no Simpsons, NFL or 24), FX, Fox Movie Channel and a bunch of others. Those are the ones that make the money that seed the fake news channel. Then there's also the radio division.

I generally boycott ALL Faux broadcast properties...only popping on the fake news channel for a good laugh now and then. I'm even loath to watch my beloved White Sox when their games show up on the "Game Of The Week" (usually the Cubs are on more than the Sox).

The problem with a huge corporate like Newscrap is that Rupert has so many different properties that he can shovel money from one side to another that a boycott of one (and when was the last time a boycott really worked??) while ignoring the others is wasting one's time.

What will be more interesting is what happens when Rupert bites the big one. Who inherits this monster and will they keep it together. We may know that answer sooner rather than later.
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 05:38 PM
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24. Dark Genius: The Influential Career of Legendary Political Operative & Fox News Founder Roger Ailes
June 17, 2008 | When Richard Nixon ran for the presidency in 1968, eight years after his pasty, glowering visage in four televised debates with John Kennedy had, arguably, cost him the White House, he knew he needed a makeover. He hired a young producer from "The Mike Douglas Show" to repackage him for mass consumption. Roger Ailes sold Nixon to the American public, and became a sought-after Republican political consultant. Between 1968 and 1989, he advised everybody from Ronald Reagan to George H.W. Bush to Rudy Giuliani. Americans know Ailes best, however, as the founding father and guiding hand of the "fair and balanced" Fox News network, the favorite cable news source of conservatives and the bête noir of liberals.

In "Dark Genius: The Influential Career of Legendary Political Operative and Fox News Founder Roger Ailes," Kerwin Swint details Ailes' role in the 40-year ascent of conservatism, and in the development of a new kind of "news." Salon spoke to Swint recently by phone.

more: http://www.salon.com/books/int/2008/06/17/ailes/index.html

This book was recently remaindered at Barnes&Noble; haven't had a chance to read it yet, but it sounds like it might be very educational (even allowing for the author's apparent admiration for his subject).
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:21 PM
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25. Too late, i stopped long ago. nm
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:22 PM
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26. If I watched TV, I would never watch Faux. n/t
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Feb-10-09 06:25 PM
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27. We watched Fox once - to see the Cheney interview
after he shot his friend. I agree with him -Murdock is a dangerous 'terrorist'.
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tilsammans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 09:28 AM
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32. Have y'all seen the movie "Outfoxed"?
I recommend it. And what's really scary is how the other networks, upon seeing how successful Faux had become, started doing their "news" like Faux.

:scared:
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Feb-12-09 11:04 AM
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33. I'm surprised with all the bullshit that Murdoch spews through Faux
that no-one has returned the favor with a line of dump-trucks unloading tons of fresh bull manure on his pristine and manicured front yard. Maybe then he'd get the message -- feed us shit, guess what you get in return.

It would only be karmically befitting.

It's a lovely fantasy, anyway...
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