I've reached the point where politics doesn't matter.

[blues90]

Really, people put faith and trust and idolize political figures and what have we really got for it all?

I thought Kent state was bad and all the issues and protests during the 60's and what did we get , JFK , MLK and JFK murdered and we still have no idea what really happened other than to suspect and it's all buried within some secret government tomb, somewhere and by now who can really say it has not all be erased just like the people who have worked all their lives have been erased.

They can tell you everything they know you want to hear and show you all they want you to see and we either have to but it and hope or question it and try to not make the same mistakes we made or allowed to happen before yet we continue to make or allow them.

Vietnam was the last war I thought we would see and yet that was not the end and along comes HW a vice we hardly ever saw and it was on with the gulf war and watching oil compnies put out oil rig fires. Read my lips no new taxes.

Reagan was an insane fool and he charmed the people into another mad lie yet the reality was beginning to peep through the curtain just enough to suspect something was not quite right and this brought us Reagan democrats , how nice and how stupid , may as well played with a loaded gun and hoped for the best.

Then we had 2 stolen elections and the madness exploded yet people still somehow found a way to support this and we loaded bombs and off to Afghanistan and the Iraq and had this country stripped of all that was still worth a damn and worth fighting for which was turned into sludge and muck and murder.

Now here we are with many still in some mode of trust which if you were to ask me is a mode of desperate hope before one falls off the cliff hanging by a worn and shreaded rope.

We have reached the peak of everything and still tossing money at the problem is said to somehow fix this.

Why is it that before we begin to see the problem everything is falling apart and then we decide to attempt to fix or patch it and yet people still feel there is fix we cannot see or hear or fully understand but it's out there hanging like the moon, we are to have faith and trust when we can't even really trust the person down the street.

I'm not so certain about that anymore. What I hear from the best is simple common sense and this is something we should have never lost sight of in the first place.

How is it that before people know a bridge is bad is when it collapses , where are the people if there ever were who check this shit out or was this another joke and belief we had that was no more than a scam to look the other way and not question it even if the ride over the bridge through the years did not feel quite the same and it swayed more and bounced more with each passing truck and some how we just relaxed into that and no one ever said let me call someone and find out why this is, instead we found a way to justify someone was making sure it was in fact safe and all is well.

It;s the same with everything. When it's past the point of all hope or caring we find out the hard truth and the hard way. I include politics in all of this.

I don't admire the youth , you may have modern technology but you also have a world of hurt and issues that may never be rectified. I would not want the trade off, and you can bet your ass there will be a trade off.

For me, I'll just try to get through what little time may be left of my life in my own tiny sliver of the world.

[Faygo Kid]

1. Then Rush wins. Sorry, I want my boot up his ass before I give up. 10 days of Obama, and this?

You can't give up. You owe it to all the octoplets everywhere to stay pissed and keep fighting.

We finally rid ourselves of the George W. Bush pestilence, and you are going to give up now?

I'm just getting started. Rush, you SOB who taints my birth year by sharing it, you aren't going to win.

Or even come close.

[Radical Activist]

2. I don't think the younger generation

is apt to idolize leaders in the same way previous generations did. That's why the candidate who constantly said change comes from the people, from the bottom up, not from one leader, had far more support among young voters than the candidate who promised she had the experience to do things for us.

[blues90]

7. I hope you're right for their sake.

Many will not agree but I do see hints of the idol syndrome peeping through here and there. Perhaps that's what is needed to become recognised and elected , I can't really say anymore. I just look at it all through very worn glasses.

A promise is like a cloud in the sky to me these days.

[stillcool]

3. ah but what is life without hope?

I have a niece that is four years old. I am certain that she will grow up and achieve things I can't even imagine. I may not have trust, but I do have faith in life, and death, and everything that happens in between.

[Oregone]

4. Realistic

At least a realistic person wont have their (american) dreams crushed when they are forced into a mundane existence of virtual indentured servitude.

[stillcool]

6. Realistically....many of us are there..

and have been there since the day we were born. Realistically that does nothing to demean life, or prevent hopes and dreams, laughter and tears..and everything else life has in store for anyone, born anywhere. I don't think Americans have any faith in the human beings ability to adapt. Perhaps we've been looking down on people for so long, the fear is not being there, but being one of them.

[blues90]

9. I understand your point . But adapting is one aspect

of thinking that needs to be looked at. What are we to adapt to, are we to adapt to inventions and machines or adapt to the human element where we actually come from?

Nothing quite worked out they way we were told way back in the early 60's, now we have technology and by it's very nature strips out the human element , man was not designed to function in this pace and speed and yet remain sane.

[rwheeler31]

5. Good read. No way you would give up.

[Waiting For Everyman]

8. The cynicism today is a fad. It's cool to be negative.

What I keep thinking of about that though, is the people who thought JFK's idea of going into space was funny and so impossible. It was treated as "tin hattery" by lots of people. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sure, sure, sure, that'll never happen. And then I remember those people watching in wonder as any of the space shots happened, especially the moon landing.

The cynicism was all fine, but it was the people with faith who made it happen. So I'm glad there are still silly fools who can believe in something unlikely. Otherwise, our best days would definitely be behind us. And it would be depressing to know that.

Hurray for silly fools, I say! Sometimes... we're right on the money. (And it's usually when things look the most f'cked up.) Dark times also present opportunities, if seized. This one is no different. Maybe we will do that, and maybe we won't. But those who TRY are the ones who have my faith - and deserve it.