Group of Christians don't tip their server at Chili's... because she works on a Sunday.

[Are_grits_groceries]

Not that you need another reason to dislike religion… this one comes from a pastor, Thomas Steagald.

His daughter is a server at Chili’s.

She was working last Sunday when some church-goers came in and… well, let the pastor tell the story:

A group of six church-goers came in last night after their evening services and sat down, not in her area but in another server’s. When the girl came to greet them and take their drink order, one of them said, “We want to tell you up front that we will not be tipping you tonight because…”

Are you ready?

“…we do not believe in people working on Sunday.”

The girl was taken full-aback, stammered out something that sounded like “I wouldn’t have to work on Sunday if so many church people didn’t come in,” or some such. She was furious. So was the manager of the restaurant whom she summoned to deal with them. I think he should have tossed the people out on their…uh…Bibles. To his credit, and demonstrating something like agape all around, he did say to them, “Well, we don’t believe in making our people work for nothing, so I will be serving you tonight.” And he did. God bless him.
http://friendlyatheist.com/2009/01/30/dont-serve-the-christians-on-a-sunday/

The hypocrisy here is stunning. I'd have tipped them out of their seats.

[YOY]

1. What a delightfully offensive way of being cheap...

Hiding behind religion and expecting people to SERVE you.

Jeeze, last I checked Orthadox Jews stay at home on their day of rest...they don't treat gentiles like shit who are not.

[bertman]

201. Here's my fantasty reply when they told her they weren't going to tip her:

"Okay, thank you for telling me. Now, if you don't mind, I'm going to go to the restroom and add a little of my own personal Holy Water to your drinks. And have a blessed day."

[HeeBGBz]

233. Sweet Jeebus, I have seen the light!

I will not be serving you today because it's SUNDAY and the lord said not to do a damn thing for assholes on Sunday.

[L0oniX]

2. What a bunch of morons. The Sabath is Saturday and always has been.

Who gave Constantine and the console of Nicea the right to change the day?

[OKIsItJustMe]

16. You beat me to it!

However, all the Council of Nicea did was assign a day of worship (i.e. not a day of rest.)

The evidence is that earliest Christians celebrated the Sabbath on Saturday (naturally) and "The http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Day#Undisputed_early_references">Lord's Day" on Sunday.

http://bible.oremus.org/?ql=100329312

Deuteronomy 24.14-15

¹⁴You shall not withhold the wages of poor and needy laborers, whether other Israelites or aliens who reside in your land in one of your towns. ¹⁵You shall pay them their wages daily before sunset, because they are poor and their livelihood depends on them; otherwise they might cry to the Lord against you, and you would incur guilt.

[timtom]

42. Excellent citation.

(The cheap bastards)

[derby378]

17. There's actually a few Christians who would agree with you

The resurrection of Jesus supposedly happened on a Sunday, hence the change in the Christian Sabbath. But some Christians paused and said, "Hey, we haven't received any instructions from on high to change the Sabbath date, so we'll continue to congregate on the same day as our Jewish brethren, and screw the Vatican if they don't like it."

I'd be interested how many of the first Christian congregations did this. I wouldn't be surprised if some Monophysites or even Gnostic Christians worshipped on Saturday.

[OKIsItJustMe]

33. You don't have to appeal to the Gnostics or the Monophysites

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lord%27s_Day#Undisputed_early_references

[SmileyRose]

72. I was born on a Thursday though - so my 7th day is Wednesday.

And I'm pretty sure I didn't do any work on that first Wednesday either :)


Yes, I'm just being obtuse.

[Donnachaidh]

3. He should have tossed them out

But hopefully, the kitchen staff also heard of the hypocrisy and added their own *organic two cents* to the plates of these arrogant a-holes. :evilgrin:

[Hugabear]

4. But they had no problem EXPLOITING her on a Sunday, did they?

You're right. Bunch of whiny fucking hypocrites. How much you want to bet they were a real pain in the neck to deal with?

If I had been at a nearby table and witnessed this, I would have at least doubled my usual tip for her.

[BlueCaliDem]

82. It's lawful for Christians to do good on the Sabbath and as christians, these jerks knew it.

Just one of the many examples listed in the Greek Scriptures of the bible.

Luke 14:1-6
One sabbath when he went to dine at the house of a ruler who belonged to the Pharisees, they were watching him. And behold, there was a man before him who had dropsy. And Jesus spoke to the lawyers and Pharisees, saying, "Is it lawful to heal on the sabbath, or not?" But they were silent. Then he took him and healed him, and let him go.

And he said to them, "Which of you, having a son or an ox that has fallen into a well, will not immediately pull him out on a sabbath day?" And they could not reply to this.

[Veritas_et_Aequitas]

5. I'm sure our Lord and Savior is proud of them.

:sarcasm:

[Divine Discontent]

194. ha.. true! very proud definitely... as they sure followed this verse to a T

by deciding to go out and shop on Sunday themselves ---

Deuteronomy 24.14-15
14You shall not withhold the wages of poor and needy laborers, whether other Israelites or aliens who reside in your land in one of your towns. 15You shall pay them their wages daily before sunset, because they are poor and their livelihood depends on them; otherwise they might cry to the Lord against you, and you would incur guilt.

[Kookaburra]

6. Not surprised one teeny, tiny, itty-bitty bit.

For crying out loud! The hypocrisy of some people is staggering.

But you know, whether they accept and believe it or not, this little act of hate by so-called christians will come back to bite them all on the butt -- whatever you send out you get back times 3. (I've always heard it was threefold, but some say sevenfold.) Regardless, they'll be the eventual losers here. And that incredibly kind manager will also reap his reward for his act of charity.

[Warpy]

7. Barbara Ehrehreich in "Nickled and Dimed"

wrote that conspicuous Christians--the ones with the WWJD? T-shirts and bibles on the table--were the worst tippers of all, often leaving only pocket change for a party of 8 or more.

These sanctimonious twits were just confirming that.

[undeterred]

85. Pocket change is still better than getting a business card

that tells you how to get your soul saved!

[Taverner]

165. I got one once

Almost got fired for giving it back to them.

Of course, telling them "this is meaningless, get it out of my face" didn't help things...

[Taverner]

164. As an ex waiter I can attest to the worst tippers

You would not think it would be who it would be as the best tippers

Evangies are the WORST, next to well taken care of elderly (poor folks ALWAYS tipped at least 15%) and dine and dashers.

[SoCalDem]

171. Not this well-taken-care-of elder

:)

We eat out two or three times a week and ALWAYS tip 20%..at least

[Taverner]

173. AWESOME!!!!

But I do remember an elderly couple coming in, and you could tell they were hurting. They had holes in their jackets, they were driving an old Chevy Nova from 71 (and this was 89) and their meal was paid for in cash.

They did the tip in change, and I watched them put it out there, and it was 17%.

Whereas I remember an older couple coming after arriving in a Mercedes. Not only didn't I get a tip, but also got the "They pay you here, don't they? Then I shouldn't leave a tip!" lecture. Let me be the first to say, those kind of folks hate it when you walk off when they are talking to you.

[wolfgangmo]

219. I used to be on the board of my food coop

And so I take a serious interest in the employees and the store. Recently a fundie showed up at the store when I was there and started yelling at one of the new employees for not having an item she wanted on the shelves. She kept going on and on about it. I stood up from where I was having lunch and walked over, interrupted and told her who in management to call to get her item special ordered . This woman just wanted to keep her hate going so she said to me "bless you, but don't you think it is wrong that they don't carry this item?"

I replied that no I didn't think it was wrong and that she could be certain it would be there if she just talked to *****. Luckily the employee had taken a her inattention to bug out and the lady was left with only me to complain to. She started to complain again interspersing her diatribe with "god blesses" and "amens" etc.

I let her get one more sentence in and then just said to her, "look, I told you the solution so either do it and get what you want, or don't. I don't give a crap either way." I turned and went back to my lunch. And she freaking lost it.

These people are not right in the head.

[Occam Bandage]

8. I don't get "disliking religion" from that. I mean...that ain't the religion, that's some jackasses

who have weaponized religion and use it as a bludgeon in their class warfare. One could say, "well, their religion makes them jerks," but what then would you say about the religion of the pastor who wrote the original article?

As he writes: No one is consistent. I am clear on that. But better to confess your own sin in such a situation than presume to see it in another who is just doing the best they can. No wonder Jesus had such animosity toward Pharisees who "lay (heavy burdens) on the shoulders of others; but they themselves are unwilling to lift a finger to move them" (Matthew 23:4). No wonder an entire generation of would-be believers has such animosity toward the church.

[Terran]

26. Probably better to have said, 'disliking the religious'

even though that's not at all fair to all religious people, of course.

[JerseygirlCT]

189. Exactly. nt

[Raksha]

208. That's a great phrase, "weaponized religion."

Hope you don't mind if I steal it!

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

9. "Well, I don't believe in not spitting in your food."

[CrispyQ]

44. Be nice to your wait staff!

Fight Club

Narrator: He was *the* guerilla terrorist in the food service industry.
(the Narrator looks at Tyler, who's urinating in a pot)

Tyler Durden: Do not watch. I cannot go when you watch.

Narrator: Apart from seasoning the lobster bisque, he farted on the meringue, sneezed on braised endive, and as for the cream of mushroom soup, well...

Tyler Durden: Go ahead. Tell 'em.

Narrator: ...you get the idea.

[jgraz]

110. My thoughts exactly. How much foreign saliva do you think those Christians ingested that evening?

My guess is quite a bit.

[RUMMYisFROSTED]

195. None(saliva).

It's the next trip that's going to get them.

[Stevenmarc]

10. Then I'll have to be upfront with you

Your service is going to suck.

[Tikki]

11. I would have told 'em...

"I'll have Jesus serve you personally...you'll have to wait until he gets here, though."

Tikki

[customerserviceguy]

31. HA! That was good!

Anybody care to guess what the tip was at the Last Supper?

[smokey nj]

32. According to Matthew 12:24, Jesus never tipped less than 20%.

[snake in the grass]

74. Please clarify.

Matthew 12:24

-But when the Pharisees heard this, they said, "This man drives out demons only by Beelzebul, the ruler of the demons."-

I would like to know the verse you meant.

[smokey nj]

129. It was a joke.

[snake in the grass]

215. Ok, thanks.

Didn't catch it and it seemed plausible after the other quote I read above.

[Lochloosa]

137. I heard he only gave 10%

At least that's what the bumper stickers say

[SoxFan]

198. The bartenders at the wedding at Cana weren't too happy about his wine routine

[HillWilliam]

65. Word!

That's exactly where I would have gone.

[ShadesOfGrey]

141. LOL! Excellent response! nt

[JerseygirlCT]

190. LOL!!!! nt

[Why Syzygy]

12. Hurray! for Chili's.

Arrogance justified by religion is spurious.

[Barack_America]

13. They're just cheap.

And, like so many other fundies, use their religion to excuse bad behavior.

[SOS]

91. Cheap, but not true fundamentalists. It could have been much worse:

"Numbers 15:32-36 While the Israelites were in the desert, a man was found gathering wood on the Sabbath day.
Those who found him gathering wood brought him to Moses and Aaron and the whole assembly, and they kept him in custody.
Then the LORD said to Moses, “The man must die. The whole assembly must stone him outside the camp.”
So the assembly took him outside the camp and stoned him to death, as the LORD commanded Moses."

True fundamentalists would have stoned her to death in the Chili's parking lot for violating Sabbath work rules.

[Barack_America]

98. Good, yet terrifying, point. nt

[JVS]

14. That sucks. I remember going to Chili's immediately after Church on Easter Sunday for beer nachos

Of course we would tip.

[DemBones DemBones]

15. What a bunch of idiots! Some people will

look for any excuse not to tip, or to undertip, their server.

[proud2BlibKansan]

18. WWJT

:)

[Ganja Ninja]

19. As we use to say when I mess cooked in the Navy ...

"I may have to take your shit but you have to eat mine."

Cheap bastards!

[Greyhound]

20. My sister did some time at Denny's.

Working the Sunday lunch shift was reserved for new hires and punishment for just this reason, large groups from churches would take up the whole station, sit for hours and just leave no, or an insulting, tip. Though in her case, they didn't even bother to make up some BS excuse.

[justabob]

50. 10% is good enough for the church.... nt

[misanthrope]

70. You want to see Sunday restaurant hell?...

...Try working on Mother's Day.

[Greyhound]

75. Oh yes, I did my time in F&B hell too.

Mother's Day is the very worst day of the year. Fortunately for me, when I did that I worked in high-end gratuity included places, so even though it did majorly suck, I walked away at the end of it with $300 - $400.

Sis said she just didn't like the formality of the places I worked, so she learned her lesson with the masses.

BTW, Denny's used to have a special exception to the laughable minimum wage then (normal tipped min wage was $2.01, but they only had to pay &1.80), do you know if that still exists?

[Maine-ah]

142. not up here - they have to pay

as a waitress, I make 3.50 for my hourly. When I bartend I make 7.50

[justabob]

79. hahahaha

you owe me a keyboard!

:fistbump:

[Digit]

211. The IRS automatically taxes servers based on receipts

Unless that has changed.

So, not only were the people not tipped, but they ended up in the negative dept because they owned on tips they did not receive.

That is one reason I got out. Women made much less than men in tips...probably because people have a perception that women are only working for "extra" money, but men are supporting families. They have no idea how many women are the heads of households and single parents.

[LynneSin]

21. 6 or more - I would have added their tip automatically - 18%

But honestly, I would have tossed the customers out on their butts. If the fundies don't want to support workers on Sunday then why are they going out to eat in a restaurant where work is required on Sundays.

BTW as an ex-waitress, if you want to guarentee your food will have been tossed on the floor or spit on before it was sent out to you - then tell your waitperson you don't tip. Trust me, I've seen it happen before when patrons at our restaurant told a girl up front they don't believe in tipping.

[justabob]

52. auto-grat is a beautiful thing

but I think Brinker does it with parties of eight or more.... but you are right.

[LynneSin]

53. I know if I told my boss these people already said they refused to tip

and it was a party of 6, he would have added it without a doubt

[justabob]

61. I hear you

but the menus etc say what the policy is, not that it would have mattered either way with this bunch. I am not arguing with you... just saying. I have worked with many managers who would comp something off the ticket to make up for assholes, or work the table like the manager in the op.

This is the first story I read today and I am so furious I am shaking! I am a long time restaurant person, and I have dealt with shades of this for over ten years. The last place I was working specialized in weekend brunch. You have to work so hard for so many super-righteous customers on Sunday.

[conscious evolution]

162. I had a boss do that

added a tip to the check of some seriously obnoxious christians.When they walked out without paying that part of the bill he called the cops on them and had them threatened with arrest if they did not pay in full.

[Le Taz Hot]

227. I have to disagree there.

Auto grats means I've just tipped regardless of the service. If it's decent to good service, I tip 20%. If it's bad service, 10%. If it's horrendous service, 1-cent. (I've only done the last option maybe twice.)

[dysfunctional press]

151. that was my thought too- a lot of places say that right on the menu...

does chili's have the auto-gratuity thing for larger parties on their menu?

if they do/did, and i had been the server- i wouldn't have mentioned it to them when i collected the menus back, but i would have gleefully highlighted it on the bill.

[wolfgangmo]

220. I have seen worse.

Extra "cheese" from a dandruffed head. Main courses wiped on unwashed asses. Rolls rolled in armpits. Semen. Snot. Tampons rinsed out in the soup.

It can get gross. Be nice to your restaurant staff. They make little and put up with much. If you don't then you get the karma.

[dembotoz]

22. i applaud the manager

Have heard many times that the after chuch bunch were lousy tippers.

and here we have a manager looking out for his line staff.
Damn

[hvn_nbr_2]

106. Yes. That manager deserves a round of applause. (And a tip.) nt

[PA Democrat]

23. Then the cheap hypocrites should stay at home.

They apparently have no problem MAKING the waitress work on a Sunday, only PAYING her for the work she does.

[bigwillq]

24. Then don't go out to eat on Sundays!

:mad:

I hate religious freaks! :mad: Yeah, I said it!

Good for the manager!

[Mad_Dem_X]

27. Exactly!

Don't patronize any establishments that are open on Sundays. I'm glad the server told the manager, and he handled the situation appropriately.

[Ilsa]

166. i would have asked them to leave. What a bunch of cheap bastards. nt

[Ichingcarpenter]

25. Where in the Country did this story happen?

I can't seem to find where it happened in the links

I'm curious where their 'church' is.

[smokey nj]

29. According to the profile in the pastor's blog, he's located in North Carolina.

http://www.blogger.com/profile/16577459035284327473

[Ichingcarpenter]

36. Well, I was gonna say somewhere in the south

and I was right

[Kalyke]

69. And I was going to say "you are a region bigot"

and I was right.

:eyes:

[enuegii]

93. Yes, in the south, that's what I thought, too...

There was an article in the local paper here in northern AL last summer about the poor tipping practices of the churchgoing crowd on Sundays, complete with follow-up articles and letters to the editor with various people taking up positions on each side of the issue.
One of the churchies arguments was that their groups brought in a lot of business on Sunday, so stop whining. Which ignores the base problem with bad tipping-- it doesn't hurt the establishments; it hurts the servers who depend on tips for their pay.
One writer stated that if servers didn't like their tips, then he/she would just stay home.
Sounds good to me-- the servers still get their base pay, and they don't have to worry as much about cheap assholes who don't tip.

[WilmywoodNCparalegal]

28. Worked as a waitress in Raleigh, NC on Sun afternoons

and invariably I and my colleagues got the smallest tips from the church crowd. My favorite was when a family dressed in Sunday clothes left me a religious tract with a handwritten note that eternal life from God was the best tip one could receive and that it was priceless.

Once I gained more experience, I was practically begging not to work the Sunday lunch shift.

[KansDem]

30. "Don't fuck with the last person who handles your food."

That was the motto of one waitress I worked with during my bartending days. Sage advice, indeed.

These Christians would do well to remember that...

[The Wizard]

144. They'd be lucky

if all they got in their food was someone else's saliva. I'm thinking nose meat.

[ipfilter]

34. Those a-holes should eat at Chic-Fil-A on Sundays. nt

[blondeatlast]

83. But they ca...

Oh, I get it... ;) :evilgrin:

[AwakeAtLast]

107. Yes. This is the correct answer.

:thumbsup:

[Mosby]

35. I have never heard of Christians not working on Sunday

Does anyone know if this is common, or some sort of trend.

[timtom]

46. Even in the 20th century

stores were closed on Sundays.

[OnyxCollie]

68. Blue laws.

Braunfeld v. Brown
http://www.oyez.org/cases/1960-1969/1960/1960_67/

The Warren court did not support the separation of church and state.

[Ichingcarpenter]

118. We had Blue Laws when I grew up in Virginia

711 were the first stores that were opened on Sunday in my state.
People drove for miles when they opened up.

You couldn't even buy milk anywhere before that.

[hatrack]

210. Well into the 1970s, you couldn't buy anything but food in our grocery stores on Sundays

My Dad used to ask if it would be OK if the light bulb he wanted to purchase would be used to read the Bible. No dice.

[FloridaJudy]

145. It depends on the flavor of Christian

I grew up in a neighborhood where several kids were not allowed to play on Sunday. Most have no problem with it though.

[GreenPartyVoter]

176. Used to be like this in the old days. From sundown Saturday to sundown Sunday don't

do any work, not even cook any food.

Not sure if all denominations held to that, but yeah I've heard stories from old folks about how strict their grandparents were. And it was not dissimilar in my own husband's home when he was a kid. He's the son of a conservative evangelical minister.

[wolfgangmo]

221. So given their logic. their pastor should not be paid.

After all, s/he is working on a Sunday.

[CrispyQ]

37. While this is a particularly odious story of bad behavior,

religious people are not the only ones who look for reasons not to tip. We used to go out with this couple & he would spend the entire meal citing 'infractions' against the wait staff - not to their face, of course, just to his wife & us. When they would drop off the bill, he would wink at us & say, "Too bad she screwed up so bad that she doesn't get a tip." We went out with them twice. And of course, we made sure the waitress was tipped appropriately.

I also went out with a co-worker who made $30k more than I did & she told me since my meal was a dollar more than hers I would have to leave most of the tip.

Cheapness knows no boundries. As an executive admin, my first impression of many of the company execs, was via their expense reports, which all crossed my desk. I once saw a dinner expense for $470 & the exec rounded his bill up to $500. Holy shit, you cheap asshole, you get reimbursed for this!

There is a much bigger percentage of lousy tippers than good tippers.

[kimmylavin]

116. Yeah, cheap comes in all flavors.

I used to hate going out to dinner with my ex-boyfriend's parents.
The father was a MILLIONAIRE, and one of the cheapest people I knew.

They would invariably run the poor server ragged, ask for every discount known to man, and then leave a 10% tip.
It made my blood boil.

I would always bring an extra $20 when we went out with them.
Then I would excuse myself to run to the bathroom, find the server, explain what was going to happen, and pre-tip her/him.

On my first date with my husband, I knew I liked him because he was nice to the server and he tipped over 20%. Good man... :)

[Strong Atheist]

38. Ah. Religious charity at work... nt.

[OhioChick]

39. Then they shouldn't be going out to eat on Sundays

if they feel so strongly about it. :eyes:

[timtom]

40. Church-goers by the same logic

shouldn't be going to a Chili's on Sunday.

If they were true to their legalism, they would probably observe the Sabbath as good Torah Jews do. Because they don't, their rationale breaks down miserably.

[jus_the_facts]

41. They were too broke after they'd tithed at church payin' the preacher that works on Sunday.

:eyes:

[Moostache]

43. Why ANNOUNCE your intentions?

I don't like religion or religious people who can't seem to contain themselves or stop from vomitting their personal beliefs on everyone around them (I refrain from going into churches and synagogues and mosques to preach about the Flying Spaghetti Monster...much to his Noodly consternation), but in this case, what would make them think stating this upfront was a good idea?

I am thinking of the movie "Waiting" and kind of shuddering to think how much 'special sauce' those orders had on them...

[Ghost in the Machine]

45. Ummm... don't their preachers 'work' on sundays? They give money to him/her, don't they?

[ProfessorGAC]

47. Weren't They Doing Business On Sunday?

Isn't going out to eat a business transaction in which a service and good are provided in exchange for remuneration?

That's doing business.

That means they were not keeping the Sabbath, either.
GAC

[mikeytherat]

60. I would have asked them: are your pastor/bookkeeper/nursery workers/organist unpaid volunteers?

Because if they are drawing a salary, they worked on Sunday. Now, I am sure some of the staff are paid so poorly, it is almost like not getting paid; however, I understand that God does not make distinctions for "I only broke your laws a little."

And alerting the staff that you're a cheap, insufferable bastard before your food even arrives, is just mecha-stupid.

mikey_the_rat

[ProfessorGAC]

63. Good Point!

Still, THESE 6 idiots were doing business on Sunday. So, THEY were the guilty party, not the server.
GAC

[ck4829]

48. People hiding their sociopathic behavior behind religion, how predictable

If they don't believe in people working in restaurants on Sundays, then why did they go into a restaurant on a Sunday?

I get the feeling this group does this every Sunday, they think they have a good little scam going on, probably.

[justabob]

49. why do they think Chili's is even open on Sunday?

Because people like them actually like to go out to eat.... who the fuck do they think is going to cook, clean and serve for them? If they are pissed someone is working on Sunday, why the fuck do they go out? Just to torture people working in a business that is thankless at best !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

The manager was good to take that table, but he should have tossed them out. I have worked many a Sunday brunch and the joke among the waitstaff is 10% is good enough for the church, so it is good for you too. I have had people ask When do you go to church? (I learned to say Wednesday, just to head off the rest of the lecture)

What fucking assholes

[lumberjack_jeff]

51. good manager

[Tommy_Carcetti]

54. Well that settles it. All Christians are assholes because of six doucehbags from a hearsay story.

I dislike all religion now!

[intheflow]

136. Yes, even the Christian minister who blogged about it.

He's obviously an asshole religious person, akin to the pius Chili's customers in every way. He and all other Christians should definitely be broad-brushed with the same condemnation as the subjects of his anecdote. At least, that's the way some of the replies on this thread read, even though the OP makes no such claim.

[conscious evolution]

163. Have you ever worked Food and Bev?

My impression is no.
Ask ANYONE in the F/B idustry.I would bet the vast majority would agree that the church crowd is the worst group in the world to deal with.
No other group comes close.None.Nada.Zilch.
Whats wierd is the phenomenon cross all barriers and lines.It does not matter if the group is rich poor,white black latino etc..., educated barely literate,liberal conservative,whatever.Yet for some reason when in a group,especially right after church,normally nice people turn into the spawn of satan when they go out to eat.
In the eighties I lived on Hilton Head Island and worked in the food and beverage industry.Every summer the southern babtists would have a young peoples(ages approx. 18-30) convention there.They were such a horror,not only for the F/B people,but all of the tourist oriented businesses,that many of the full time islanders scheduled vacations that week and left the summer hires to deal.
I also know quite a few waitrons who fired for going off on them.
That or drink themselves into an obnoxious state and terrorized them!

[nickyt]

175. Yes yes yes, the Southern Baptists! Bad news! I waited tables at a fancy

hotel years back in New Orleans (Dear, beloved New Orleans), and in August, when it's a furnace down there, who scheduled their conventions?: The Southern Baptists and a big group of retired Marines! They save a fortune on hotel rooms (cuz they're the only groups chintzy enough to go in August!) and tipped soooooo poorly...my father was a Marine for 32 years, so I knew they'd think leaving me a dollar was bein' mighty generous!

As a retired waitron, I've said for years (and it's true for me!): "the only reason to have money is so you can leave huge tips"!

PS that was my first and last stint at a "fancy" restaurant - give me a "dive" ANY day!

[Divine Discontent]

226. well, we each have our stories - but I'd rather work a church crowd then a 1am crowd at Denny's

as a former member of the "church crowd" when I used to attend, the people I went with tipped and treated the staff with respect wherever we went - and I've been much more a part of a later night eating group - and I'd rather ANY DAY work on a church day then deal with the hooligans that come in at night at these restaurants me & a friend eat at when we get off work.

So many on this thread also ignore that the person who blogged about this to begin with is a pastor. Not everyone is hateful and ridiculous to the staff at restaurants when they go to eat after attending service. The bad ones always outshine the 20 good people that caused no problem who didn't mention they were Christians! Kudos to ANY wait staff for all the crap they deal with, regardless!

Are you lefthanded? I notice my sibling does the thing you do, where they don't put any spaces between the period and the start of the next sentence. Just wondering.

[conscious evolution]

230. LOL!Around here it would

be the 2 AM Waffle House shift.
If there is anyone that could compete with the church crowd that would be the group to do it.

[closeupready]

55. I oughta send him an email asking what they ordered for their meal, like shellfish?

or cheeseburger?

[ACTION BASTARD]

56. I'm sure they got the "house special"

I would have taken their order and have them sit and sit and sit and...

[spanone]

57. and god would be so proud of them....not...perhaps this person HAS to work on sundays

fuck them

[SheilaT]

58. I have never waited tables,

never hope to, and I always tip well. If the service is crappy I still leave 10%, because I figure I have no idea what is really going on that I can't see. If it's good I leave 20%. Wait staff works hard and I'm grateful there are people out there who are willing to do the job.

Anyone who does not believe in people working on Sunday have no business doing ANYTHING that requires someone to work on Sunday. Including, don't get sick and go to a hospital on Sunday or expect anyone to take care of you there on a Sunday. Ignorant hypocritical jerks.

[kentauros]

100. "Anyone who does not believe in people working on Sunday

have no business doing ANYTHING that requires someone to work on Sunday."

I would also include the use of water, sewer, gas and electricity. They better just go outside and shut off all that for 24 hours if they're going to take that illogical attitute. They are likely not even aware of the contradiction they made.

I have worked Food Service, just not waitstaff (cook, baker, pastry-cook) so I never got to hear such comments, much less receive a portion of the tips. Sure, we made minium wage, but it's still grueling work for everyone involved.

If I'm ever in earshot of people being assholes like this, I will make it a point to flag down my waitperson just so I can loudly declare she or he is getting at least a 25% tip, or more so as to offset the skinflints visiting the establishment

[unapatriciated]

234. This is one ex-waitress...

who always gave a percentage of her tips to the cook, bussers, host and the rest of the staff before some restaurants made it mandatory.
Being raised in the industry (mom owned a small restaurant) I learned at an early age to recognize that it took all the staffs help to earn those tips.

[Bake]

59. Rule No. 1: NEVER piss off the person who handles your food!

I guess they didn't see the movie "Waiting."

Bake

[pleah]

143. Restaurants should hand out copies of that movie,

for those kind of people. :evilgrin:

[TWiley]

62. REPUBLICAN BASTARDS ! Skin-flints with a Halo !

Why am I so not suprised?

[Blue_Tires]

64. wow...that was a majorly dickish thing to say

you're begging to have some 'special' ingredients added to your food if you say that in enought places

[Locrian]

66. WTF?

Do they not see the hypocrisy in that they were defacto asking her to work?

How about this: they say no tip because they dont believe in working.

She says: wow. I sooo support that. So we want to show our support by NOT WORKING for you. Have a nice day.

[Still Sensible]

67. They were actually just cheapskates and most likely

republican through and through.

When I was in college (early 70s) I went to dinner with, among others, a very conservative fraternity brother named Doug . The bill came to $27 and change (it was just a Carrow's I believe) and we split it up--but Doug insisted on leaving the tip himself. So he left our waitress three quarters, a whole 75-cents as a tip.

Taken aback, I asked him why he left so little and just change because there was nothing wrong with the service... and he said, "These people are insulted if you leave them paper money." That's a fucking direct quote. I asked him where did you hear that? He said his father taught him. I said, as someone who has worked for tips, that is bullshit... and threw four singles on top of his quarters.

That is the way some of these people really think.

[City Lights]

71. Fucked up.

Seriously fucked up.

What lunacy to go to a restaurant on gawd's "day of rest" and not tip the server because he/she is working. One wonders if they thought Jeezus was in the kitchen performing miracles to get the food they ordered on the table.

:eyes:

[distantearlywarning]

73. I'm sure Jesus would approve of stiffing the poor out of their rightful wages

Have these assholes ever heard the word "Pharisee"?

[Marr]

76. Hey, at least they didn't stone her to death, as their book of peace demands. n/t

[bulloney]

77. I know several people who throw that line about God forbidding work on Sundays.

Then, right after church, there they are, shopping and eating at restaurants.

Hello? What about this God-inspired commandment about not working on Sundays? One person essentially told me it's different with restaurants and retail employees.

These are the same people who'll get rabid at you over voting for a candidate who's not opposed to abortion, but thinks nothing about voting for that candidate's opponent who promotes war, capital punishment and other issues their church also opposes.

[Dreamer Tatum]

78. "And I want to tell you up front that there will be biological matter in your food"

If you can't see your way clear to tipping someone because they're working on the Sabbath, then in the words of
Walter Sobchak: SHOMER FUCKING SHABBAS. They shouldn't be eating out - they should be sitting at home.

[Sanctified]

80. Every Group has their assholes, I guess these assholes belong to my group.

These guys play the same holier than thou game the Pharisees played and it's ridiculous, furthermore if they are going by the 10 Commandments then the Sabbath is Saturday and I am sure they all have done work on Saturday.

[Peace_Sells]

81. tips

My parents are big time conservative christians and even tho they are well to do they leave pathetic tips when they eat out. I've seen them leave fucking pocket change and when I say something about dad just gets pissed and says well something is better than nothing. Yet at church he has no problem putting a 50$ in the collection basket every week.

[undeterred]

84. The Amish are terrible tippers.

A huge group will go out for a Sunday dinner- and leave a dollar on the table. A friend of mine says "the Amish owe me a hand crafted armoire for all the tips they didn't leave"

But there are lots of terrible tippers, and restaurant specials tend to bring them in. When I was in college we used to call them "chicken eaters" and we'd always try to get chicken eater Sundays off. People on dates leave the best tips.

[shadowknows69]

86. 12th commandment

Thou shall not short the handlers of thy food.

And if you do, you probably better not eat there again.

[NeedleCast]

87. Church Goers and Teachers

For whatever reason, are the worst tippers, by catagory

Actually, tourists are probably the worst because most countries either pay their servers a decent wage or automatically add tips to the check.

Until that changes though, if you can't afford to tip, stay your ass at home.

Hopefully the restaurant in question has a policy on automatically adding 15-18% onto parties of six or more.

[DFW]

88. Doesn't sound like Christians to me

Just a bunch of very disagreeable people who happened to have been in a church that day.

Like the saying goes, being inside a church no more makes you a Christian than being inside
a garage makes you a car.

[laconicsax]

197. Right, they're not TRUE Christians!

:rofl:

[Ahpook]

89. What did they expect?

Did they plan on cooking their own food since no one should be working. Why go in the first place with an attitude like that?

That's one hell of a good way of getting the "special sauce" :)

[Iggo]

90. Out of respect to my Mom and my sainted Gran...

...I would've given them the bum's rush. Seriously. One hand on the collar, one on the belt, and run them out the door. (Run 'em THROUGH it if the door's closed.)

[Harry Monroe]

92. Um...I hate to bring this up, but I read the whole article and also the original it was cited from..

...and nowhere did I see in what city, town etc. this incident took place. I'm wondering if the whole thing isn't made up?? Just sayin' is all. I'm sure there are people out there like these hypocritical cheapskates though. Anyone have any idea whatsoever where this alleged incident took place??

[Harry Monroe]

95. OK, did a "Google" on Thomas Steagald and I see he comes from Stanley NC

So I might stand corrected.

[ima_sinnic]

101. the pastor who originally blogged about it is in Stanley, NC

in his blog post he says

I promise I am not making this up...

My daughter, taking a break from her pursuit of a graduate degree, is a server at the Chili's a few miles down from our house. . .

See http://prayerpilgrimage.blogspot.com/2009/01/unbelievable.html and also click on "view my complete profile" at the bottom of the left-hand column.

[ecstatic]

94. And if that very same waitress got pregnant and was unable

to afford to have a baby, I bet that same group would condemn her. People like them are never able to put their money where their mouth is. Yes, the hypocrisy is stunning but they do not represent the majority of humans or Christians.

[LanternWaste]

96. I guess I was lucky...

I guess I was lucky-- when I waited tables one summer in the eighties for a chain restaurant, my best tipper was the youth minister from my church who found out I had the brunch/lunch schedule every Sunday.

[stuntcat]

97. effing chimps

I'm ashamed of my species over and over every day.. religion almost always has something to do with it too.

[NeedleCast]

125. The vast majority of DUers

are not in the same species as these people.

[WI_DEM]

99. You know they shouldn't be going to eat out on a Sunday either, they should be home reading their

bibles and singing hymns. What a bunch of morans! They go to a restaurant knowing that there has to be people working there and yet it's against their religious beliefs to tip them. I think they are just plain cheap.

[Contrary1]

102. Some years back, we use to go out regularly with our neighbors...

we usually ended up at Chi Chi's. We would put a partial tip on the table, even before the server came to get the order, and let him know that was to be his future tip.

Every time they came to see how we were doing, we would add to it. Once, when the waiter forgot to bring something, our friend pulled back a dollar, and told him that he would have to be extra attentive to us to earn it back.

This was all done in a friendly manner, and whoever happened to serve us that day knew it. By the time we were finished, there was usually a 40% tip left, give or take.

[Javaman]

103. oh the ironies...

yet they have no problem with being served.

fundie cheap ass tools.

[1776Forever]

104. Does this mean that they don't "tip" the minister when he preaches on Sunday - Just Wednesdays?

:wow: Hypocrisy!

[GaYellowDawg]

105. They treat front desk clerks like shit, too.

I worked at a hotel and the worst - by far - group came from the Philadelphia Church of God. They were awful. Mean, demanding, nasty people who put us through all kinds of crap and near-universally complained about the bills when they checked out. They had this attitude that since we were in the service industry, we deserved to be treated like crap.

The best group was a convention of Harley bikers. The housekeeping staff would just about fight to work every day that week because they always left tips for the staff.

[RandomKoolzip]

108. If you don't want people to work on a sunday, while enable them

by patronizing their business? It's like offering someone money, then accsuing them of stealing when they take it. Seems like another big ol' case of "Religious Duh" striking again.

Then again, this could be a bullshit story/urban legend. Has snopes looked at this story yet?

[kestrel91316]

109. Direst link to the pastor's blog:

http://prayerpilgrimage.blogspot.com/2009/01/unbelievable.html

[nichomachus]

111. Mark 2:27

After the Pharisees criticized Jesus for allowing his disciples to pick some grain on the Sabbath day, Jesus said, "The Sabbath was made for man, not man for the Sabbath" (Mark 2:27)

[RoyGBiv]

112. I'm just curious ...

Were these fools stupid enough actually to eat there after that?

Have none of these asshats ever worked for a living and seen what service people do to idiots who pull such crap?

Man, I *accidentally* insulted a waitress once and decided it would be best if I ate elsewhere that evening.

[4 t 4]

115. Jesus would be proud wouldn't he .

[nichomachus]

113. They should have just added a 20 percent "service charge" to their bill

Lots of restaurants do that for large groups.

[Rob H.]

114. "(W)e will not be tipping you tonight because…”

"…we do not believe in people working on Sunday."

Too bad she couldn't have told them, "Then come back tomorrow, because I'm not serving your cheap asses today."

IMO it doesn't matter if they don't believe in people working on Sundays. Sometimes it has to be done and they're assholes for acting as if what they believe precludes tipping people who are serving them. If their knickers are in that much of a twist about it, they should fucking stay home and cook their own damned meals.

[Raster]

117. So it's OK for them to eat there on Sunday, but not OK for her to work there on Sunday?

I have not been to a Chili's in quite a while, however, I do not believe manna from heaven is on the menu. If the theo-fascists want to eat in a restaurant on a Sunday, SOMEONE is going to have to serve their hypocritical asses.

[gaspee]

119. Tipping?

From reading most of these threads, it sounds like tipping isn't a gratuity, but a mandatory part of the bill. Why even bother calling it a tip if it's something you have to do, rather than a reward for being a good (or just decent) server.

Because my grandmother was a waitress in shitty diners her entire life, I've always been a good tipper - even when the shitty server didn't deserve it, but the sense of entitlement to tips in this thread is outrageous. Since we're not even pretending it's a gratuity for good service, it really shoudn't be called a tip, should it?>

Hell, I even tip the Dunkin Donuts counter help, so all you sanctimonious people can't really say I'm saying this because I don't tip.

[Ichingcarpenter]

120. In Europe its automatically included in the Bill

Because of the strong server unions.

[Iggo]

121. Wow.

[gaspee]

126. Wow what?

Stop calling a tip a tip, include it in part of the bill and pay servers a living wage. Then tips can actually *be* tips again.

I don't eat out anymore because I can't afford to, so it's kind of a moot point.

I have *never* in my life not tipped a waitperson, no matter how shitty a job they did.

So just what is your Wow, huh?

[Iggo]

131. Again. Wow.

[gaspee]

132. ...

Get a fucking life.

[Iggo]

134. Got one. Thanks.

[baldguy]

128. A tip isn't a "favor" you magnanimously do for your server - it's a payment for a service.

[gaspee]

139. No

It's a gratuity for good service - otherwise, it would be part of the bill.

I in no way condone what these asswipes in the story did, but the thread makes it sound like giving your server 20% on your bill is mandatory. A tip is not mandatory which makes waiting tables ten times worse.

Stop the bullshit, make tips of a certain percent mandatory (ie, added to the bill) or raise the prices and pay servers a living wage.

I give bad service 10-15 percent and great service 20-25% and I always give the coffee counter help at DD at least 50 cents on a 2 buck coffee.

My point is that the sense of entitlement that makes people think they can spit in food or act like assholes because someone doesn't tip them is just as wrong as the cheap fucks who don't tip.

If 10% is added to every bill as a gratuity (or call it a service charge, whatever) automatically, the cheapskates will *have* to pay and the decent tippers will leave an additional 5-10 percent.

I no longer eat out because I can't afford the expense (and that includes tipping.) If I ever buy food already prepared, it's take out. I can''t afford to eat in where you have to pay outrageous prices for drinks and then 20-25 percent on top for being served. Hell, I can't even afford take-out anymore. It's a good thing I enjoy cooking.

[baldguy]

182. You're right - you shouldn't go out to eat.

Not because you can't afford it, but because you clearly don't understand the reason for the transaction.

Simply calling it a "gratuity" doesn't mean it's an option. It is still a fee paid for a service rendered. It's not rolled into the bill because its a transaction between you and the waiter. It's like this by long social custom - you pay the restaurant for your food and you pay your server to - get this - SERVE YOU.

It is not and should never be considered a favor bestowed by the patron on the waiter. You are not their lord, they are not property of the restaurant and they are not yours to order around as you please. We are all theoretical equals in this society that means THEY are doing YOU a favor by serving you. If you don't like that fact then you should get up and get your own damn food.

[gaspee]

184. Asshole much?

Get your panties twisted all up? Did you not read what I wrote? I always tip well, even if the waitperson is a fuckwad. So screw you.

[baldguy]

185. No, I just worked too many years in too many restaurants

dealing with morons who think paying for my hard work was optional. Its not really part of what's owed because it's not on the bill - so I don't get a tip. Or they're short on cash today and can only pay for the food, so I don't get a tip. Their favorite team lost, so I don't get a tip. They don't like the screaming baby in someone else's section so I don't get a tip!

If I'm a plumber, and I install a faucet for you - you pay me. If I'm a doctor and I give you a check-up, you pay me. If I mow your lawn, you pay me. If I dry clean you clothes, you pay me.

But, if I bring your food to you - you don't pay me? That ain't right. Most people understand this. Those that don't seem never to have worked in a restaurant.

[Ichingcarpenter]

186. That's why servers need unions like Europe

and the 10% or 15 needs to be included and if you feel
like the service was exceptional you give more but
the servers are guaranteed at least the minimum

[gaspee]

217. That's my point

Add the service charge,. stop calling it a tip and people who want to add more, will. Get rid of the slave wages for servers and add the tip to the bill.

[LanternWaste]

159. I don't think anyone thinks it's a mandatory part of the bill

I don't think anyone thinks it's a mandatory part of the bill-- merely a civil bit of dignified assistance afforded to those who make less than minimum wage in most instances...

[Random_Australian]

214. It was, but as far as I'm aware, screwin' the lowerpaid workers mean

that they need your tips, so it isn't a matter of good service any more.

That at least, is what I have heard. In Australia, we haven't had that, so tipping is a rarity reserved for a particularly satisfied customer. Or a common occurence for getting rid of shrappers. :)

[Initech]

122. Wow, some people just really suck.

Good for the manager at that place, I would've given them the heave-ho.

[Belial]

124. That pretty much somes it up..

[BrklynLiberal]

123. HYPOCRITES!!!!!!

[baldguy]

127. Wait - they WENT IN THERE on Sunday?

If they don't "believe in" people working on Sunday who did they expect to serve them?

[closeupready]

130. Slaves, I guess. It's in the Old Testament, if I recall correctly.

I mean, it's okay to use slaves on Sunday as long as they aren't Christian. :sarcasm:

[Zodiak]

133. I used to work for tips during college

And because of that experience, I have rules:

1. 20% tip minimum from me for decent service.
2. 15% for shoddy or spotty service
3. Pizza guys get tips, too....minimum $3.00
4. If you invite me to eat with you, and you do not tip, I will NEVER eat with you again. EVER! Why should I have to sit there an be embarrassed by your anti-social behavior? Why should I have to risk a phlegm-glob the next time I eat there so you can save on chump-change?

In short, if you do not tip, you are a freeloading asshole who has no appreciation for the people around you. You cannot be my friend.

Here are things I learned from working for tips:

1. The worst tippers are rich people and church-goers.
2. People play racial games with tips, hard to believe, but it is true (of course not all people, but the fact that ANYONE did this floored me).
3. The best tippers are working class people and those in "questionable" professions (strippers, drug-dealers, etc.).
4. Cheap-ass skin-flints love patronizing the same place over and over and never tipping...it REALLY pisses off the staff to see them come in time and time again expecting something for nothing. People quit their jobs over these assholes.

[baldguy]

196. People who do not tip are thieves, and should be treated as such.

[Lisa0825]

203. Yup... theft of services! nt

[Lisa0825]

204. I judge people on how they tip and how they generally treat waitsaff and bussers.

Especially dates. A guy who doesn't tip well or is not polite to the staff has NO shot at a second date. In addition, I have even left my own tip while leaving, when a date or acquaintance did not tip well. I have often done so discreetly, occasionally via a handshake with the server, but on certain occasions when the other party was a complete boor, I have done it right in front of them, to make a statement about them.... I have only done that twice, and believe me, it was well warranted.

[Puzzler]

135. Then, why are they patronizing a place open on a Sunday?

.

[calico1]

138. I hope there were some extra ingredients

in their food.

Isn't the sabbath for praying? Should they have been out eating in a restaurant and not praying?

[LynneSin]

152. Where I use to work - you better believe that would have happened

My advice to anyone who is a shitty tipper - don't announce your tipping styles until AFTER the food is all served.

[JuniperLea]

140. Judging others is one of the big no no's

That's the main problem with the lofty, self-righteous among us. They forget their scripture when it's convenient. They may actually be the first cherry-pickers!

[appleannie1]

146. The Amish around here are like that everyday. 10 to 20 arrive at once, stay over an hour and don't

leave a cent. They keep whatever waitress is stuck with them so busy that she cannot wait on anyone else the whole time they are there. Amazing how religious folks treat their fellow man.

[gaspee]

147. I didn't know

The Amish ate out in restaurants. Ya learn something new everyday! Do the restaurants in your neck of the woods have carriage parking? Hitching posts?

[ieoeja]

158. I grew up in southern Indiana.

And I saw plenty of Amish carriages hitched outside restaurants. Some places did have specific setups for that. Mostly they just found a light pole or something.

That said, the previous poster may have been talking about Amish laborers working at jobs off the farm and popping out for lunch. There are very few non-Amish carpenters where I grew up for instance.

[JerseygirlCT]

192. I saw plenty of Mennonite folks in restaurants in PA, but

I don't ever recall seeing Amish in a restaurant...

[AZBlue]

148. So religion in general is bad because these 6 are crazy?

See, you lost me at "Not that you need another reason to dislike religion…"

[Ezlivin]

149. Did they also criticize her amount of flair?

[sarcasmo]

156. Great show, that's in my collection.

[chrisa]

150. Why go to a place that has people working then?

Fat, gluttonous, hypocritical pigs.

[sarcasmo]

155. Don't forget Greedy.

[Bluebear]

153. "Sorry, parties of 6 or more have 20% added automatically. May I start you off with a cocktail?"

[sarcasmo]

154. The reason why serving the public is a very tough job. It's hard to bit your lip, I would have lost

My Job if some Fundie told me this nonsense. I put a Xtian out of my taxi before because she started grilling me about Religion and I told her I was an Atheist and my wife a Christian. Then she has the nerve to tell me we shouldn't be married, brakes, then get the F out come out of my mouth. It was the one nice thing about working for yourself, you didn't have to put up with the Religious bullshit.

[wolfgangmo]

222. This is the best post on this.

Bar none.

"Breaks. Then get the F out."

Friken priceless. Bwahahahahahahaha.

[lukasahero]

157. I suppose the irony that the blog originally condemning the behavior comes from a Pastor

is lost here?

Yup, just one more reason to dislike religion: the pastors never tell their parishioners they're behaving like obnoxious hypocrits.

Oh wait, yes, they do....

[earth mom]

160. Those hypocritical assholes don't sound like christians to me. WWJD?

:puke:

[laconicsax]

199. Of course--they aren't TRUE Christians!

:eyes:

[earth mom]

232. No they are NOT true christians. But you knew that. nt

[KamaAina]

161. But apparently they do believe in people eating out on Sunday

Who's supposed to serve them? Are angels supposed to come down bearing the plates on clouds instead of trays? :eyes:

[GreenPartyVoter]

177. And why not tip the girl when they clearly have to pay for the food which in turn

pays the cook's wages, right?

Doesn't add up.

[Geek_Girl]

167. Now Relegion is being used as an excuse to be cheap

nt

[GeorgeGist]

168. Reminds me of daughters experience as a server.

She resented working Sundays because the 'after church' crowd were the cheapest tippers.

[Ilsa]

169. "Landlords don't typically accept religious tracks as payment of rent." nt

[dgibby]

170. Perhaps their next Sunday dinner should be served from a vending machine!

[rcrush]

172. Isnt going out to eat on Sunday just as bad as working on a Sunday?

[Lyric]

174. If that had been my restaurant, I'd have tossed them out.

If you can't be bothered to tip just because it's Sunday, then we can't be bothered to serve you. Besides, it's hypocritical--if they truly don't believe in working on Sundays, then they shouldn't be out doing things that contribute to Sunday work.

When are these crazy shitheads going to realize that the only sins they need worry about are their OWN?

[WV_Biker]

178. Fuck those cocksuckers....

... I would have been tempted to spit on them.


Jeff

[Bluebear]

213. Fuck your use of cocksucker as an insult.

[Iggo]

216. How do you feel about "motherfuckers"?

;)

[WV_Biker]

224. Depends on who's mother ;)

[WV_Biker]

223. Sorry didn't mean to offend...

[CraftyGal]

179. I remember dealing with the same issue in retail.

I was an assistant manager and often interviewed employees. One of the things that I was upfront about was the the perspective employee had to be available to do a shift for 2 Sundays a month.

I had one employee, who knew this requirement, say she could work Sundays as she was a Christian. So I asked her what her day consisted of. She said attending morning service, having lunch at the local restaurant and then doing the evening service.

My response was so it is okay to have someone else work and serve you on Sundays? She had no response, so she ended up working her required 2 Sundays a month. My manager and I alternated the Sundays because we had to do our payroll and other managerial paperwork done because it had to be submitted that day.

CraftyGal

[Divine Discontent]

193. Exactly. Look, I'm not against ANYONE who wants to follow that, but for me,

I believe it means keep the Sabbath day holy by worshiping at church or wherever you choose to worship in praising God. And, oh, I'm guessing 80%+ of Christians purchase something on Sundays. So, these people infuriate me. Such weirdo right wing behavior. It's certainly not 'Christian'.

[slackmaster]

180. I wonder if they would have tipped Jewish servers

Since their interpretation of the Sabbath is Saturday.

:hide:

[KatyaR]

181. In college I was president of a music sorority my senior year.

We pledged a sophmore who was a recent Seventh Day Adventist convert. We had the pledge initiation and a nice brunch at a local restaurant, and she refused to eat because it was the Sabbath. She could go to the restaurant and sit in it, but she couldn't eat because someone would have to work to make her meal.

People make no sense any more . . . .

[krabigirl]

183. Um, maybe they shouldn't be going out to eat on Sunday then? Fuckers.

[RubyDuby in GA]

187. I would have asked them why they weren't at home with their families

Then told them to get the HELL out!

[JerseygirlCT]

188. Don't tar all religion with that brush, please

But yeah, funny that they're ok with going out to eat, but somehow expect the people serving them to go without pay.

I think what she came up against was a group of jerks. Their religion is just a convenient excuse for being jerks.

[Divine Discontent]

191. right wing Christians, obviously. Christians who are liberal, oh, and follow Jesus' Beatitudes,

would NEVER do such an IGNORANT thing! These people are causing her to work - how dumb of them - and therefore - Right Wing, undoubtedly.

God help me deal with these idiots without smacking them!

[valerief]

200. God, I hate those uber-stupid, self-righteous Bible thumpers. nt

[deaniac21]

202. bfd

[RagAss]

205. Cheap Motherfuckers.......n/m

[Liberal_in_LA]

206. wow. what stupid people.

[Political Heretic]

207. This sounds like one of those internet chain email rumors

too stupid to be true.

[Fire_Medic_Dave]

209. Not buying it.

Who on earth would tell their server before they ordered that they wouldn't be tipping? Why not just say please spit on my food and give me horrible service? Sorry I think this is complete BS.

David

[cherish44]

212. Poetic justice

Fat fuck Christian a-hole has heart attack on a Sunday after eating 6 pounds of sausages wrapped in bacon, fried in lard. Frantic family calls 911. "HELP!" "Sorry dude we don't work on Sunday, God's rules."

[liberalla]

218. They don't believe that people should work on Sunday - BUT,

they expect that businesses should be open on Sunday so they can go out for dinner???

Huh? :wtf:

Man these people are hypocrites! What small-minded idiots...

[Le Taz Hot]

225. My mother was a waitress when I was growing up

and she HATED working on Sundays. According to her, it wasn't unusual for church people to come in in 8-12 person groups, sit there for 3 or 4 hours ordering refills on their coffees, then leave her an 87-cent tip. She said religious folks were the WORST tippers.

[jmowreader]

228. At least they were up front about it

I eat at sit-down restaurants occasionally, and most of the ones I've been to (if not all of them) automatically add a 15 percent gratuity to the bill for parties of six or more, so they were going to pay the gratuity anyway.

Most fundamentalists would have allowed her to work her ass off for them, then tell her at the END of the meal, "we're not tipping you as punishment for violating the Lord's Will by working on his day." I think that falls under grounds for justifiable homicide in at least nine states.

[moggie]

229. Interesting comments from the waitrons in this thread

It seems a lot of people who have worked in the restaurant trade have observed that religious people are often lousy tippers. This reminded me of a University of Linz / University of Innsbruck experiment in honesty (google for "natural field experiment on newspaper purchasing"). This used a bunch of unmanned newspaper sales booths where the customer takes the newspaper and (if they're honest) puts the money into a cashbox. Some of the customers were subsequently interviewed, and various facts about them were correlated with whether or how much they paid. The biggest such factor, by quite a margin, was church attendance: people who regularly attended church were much less honest, on average, in this transaction. The authors speculated that this might be because this part of the experiment was conducted on Sunday, and the churchgoers may have given all their small change to the church. But the same excuse doesn't apply to tipping in restaurants.

[Deja Q]

231. Then why did they go out on Sunday? Their pastor works. DOCTORS work. FIREMEN work.

Plenty of people work.

If they do not believe in people working on Sunday, then they should NOT TAKE ADVANTAGE OF IT.

I'm glad the worker responded the way she had. She has every right TO be furious.

If the bible-bangers would take their books out of their butts and read them, they would find the reason why various societies had died, with fire and brimstone and all that, was because of peoples' selfishness. The thing saying "We want to tell you up front" is no Christian. Of any sort. Just a pig, unworthy of being in a pork pie either.

[XanaDUer]

235. Spit in their food and serve it with a smile!

:)