Karl Rove speaks to packed house at University of Miami. Still getting credibility.

[madfloridian]

Wonder how much he got for this speech? Wonder if anyone bothered to protest, or if the loud applause was indicative of how he was received overall?

He was still preaching fear and terror, and getting applause for it. Is U of M usually like that, to favor a speaker who is held in contempt by a congressional committee? Not familiar with the mindset there.

It doesn't say he was just speaking to a Republican group so the large crowd must have been there because they wanted to be. I see only one person crossed him, and he was verbally admonished by Rove.

‘Campaign architect’ Karl Rove speaks to students about Gitmo, presidential legacy

Karl Rove, one-time deputy chief of staff to former President George W. Bush, spoke to a jam-packed Storer Auditorium at the University of Miami Thursday afternoon. After a brief opening speech, Rove transformed the event into an open forum during which audience members could ask him a question or engage him in a debate.

The “campaign architect,” as he is commonly called, built a case against President Barack Obama’s order to close Guantanamo, an overseas CIA detention center where terrorists and other “enemy combatants” are held. Obama’s order could enable terrorists to be tried in U.S. courts, to be given undeserved rights afforded American citizens and could cause damaging long-term effects, Rove said.

“One year from now, Gitmo won’t be closed,” Rove said. “If it is, there will be an uproar in the U.S. about where to put these people.”

Interrogation tactics used by the CIA during Bush’s term in office were not torturous, Rove said, but he did not deny that the CIA strongly pressed terrorists for vital information.

“You bet we squeeze them for information,” Rove said. “If we hadn’t, those same terrorists could have executed their plans to kill, and would be asking why Bush didn’t protect American soldiers’ lives.”

High praise from some:

I loved it; he was very informative and very honest about his opinions,” said Sgt. Agbeyegbe Jolomi, a junior who served in Iraq for one year. “I’m happy I came to this event.”

“It gave us a new perspective on the Bush administration and the decisions they made,” senior Andrea Whalen said. “If you look at the facts, Bush got an unfair rap. He made a lot of really tough decisions for the best interest of the nation. It was really great when finally set the record straight.”

“It was fantastic, more than what I expected,” said Remy Flor, a junior and fan of Rove’s. “To see him in the flesh was great, and the presentation reinforced my views.

Rove is still apparently embraced by the Republicans. I guess they are more loyal to their own than our party appears to be.

I remember back when someone I admire spoke out against Karl Rove publicly on TV.

"He doesn't belong in the White House. If the president valued America more
than he valued his connection to Karl Rove, Karl Rove would have been fired a long time ago," said Dean, the Democratic Party chairman, speaking Tuesday on NBC's "Today" show. "So I think this is probably good news for the White House, but it's not very good news for America."

That arrogant son of a who know what actually had the nerve to lecture Obama just before the primary ended.

This month, Karl Rove, "the architect" of the last two Republican presidential victories, was on his new television perch at Fox News, offering free advice to Sen. Barack Obama as he closed in on the Democratic nomination.

Any move by Obama to declare victory before the last of the Democratic primaries in June, Rove said, would alienate Sen. Hillary Rodham Clinton's wing of the party. "That's a mistake," he said. "That just is rubbing the loser's nose in it. And a lot of those supporters will remember it by November."

Rove advises Obama

He is still getting huge amounts of kudos from journalists and political figures on the right

Mr. Rove is the former deputy Chief of Staff and Senior Advisor to President George W. Bush. He is currently a Fox News Contributor, Wall Street Journal Columnist and a Newsweek Columnist.

Karl Rove has been described by respected author and columnist Michael Barone in U.S. News & World Report as "…unique…no Presidential appointee has ever had such a strong influence on politics and policy, and none is likely to do so again anytime soon." Washington Post columnist David Broder has called him a master political strategist whose "game has always been long term…and he plays it with an intensity and attention to detail that few can match." Fred Barnes, executive editor of The Weekly Standard, has called him, "The greatest political mind of his generation and probably of any generation…"

Wall Street Journal, Newsweek columnist, Fox news analyst...and beloved by students at the University of Miami.

That's amazing.

[NoSheep]

1. oh. I just threw up a little bit.

[MichaelHarris]

2. Ya know

even Charles Manson can draw a crowd.

[tavalon]

3. Lawyers are expensive and they will bleed him dry before they dump him behind bars

He's a jackal and should know full well what his fellow lawyer jackals are going to do to him.

[BlueMTexpat]

12. Jackals at least have value ...

linking them with Rove is a clear insult to them. And as for lawyers, yes, some may indeed bleed him dry (would love that, if true), but I don't believe that Rove is a lawyer at all. In fact, so far as I know, he never even graduated from college ... but merely enrolled in college part-time just so that he would get a student deferment from Vietnam. Asswipe that he is ... just another one of the chickensh** chickenhawks.

If these are truly university students, the collective IQ of their U must be pretty low.

[Jambalaya]

19. Carry on,Karl.

Vultures are always the fattest where the carrion is plentiful.

[tavalon]

22. My sincerest apologies to Jackals

You are so right. They are useful, this bunch worse than useless.

[bluestateguy]

4. He is abusing freedom of speech

It undermines the troops in the field when you smear their commander in chief.

[Mika]

5. Fear sells in Miami. After all, a large percentage are scared shitless of this man ....

[Jambalaya]

17. Oh me ,oh Miami!

I seem to recall that Miami was the source of a LOT of McCain lobby funding and donations.The site McCainLobbyist.com had MUCH info on this a while back.

Also, McCain was giving keynote speeches to ACORN events,along with affilaited Hispanic and Cathoilc charities. I may be mistaken,but UofM may have been aggregated in this event,also.

A couple of years later, McCain would attack ACORN and the very efforts he lauded them for,in Miami, a couple of years previously.

[Frustratedlady]

6. When he appeared in Iowa a couple years ago, he charged $40K

and they threatened to do a citizen's arrest, but I think they just protested. He sat and listened to it. I doubt he'll be back.

[blogslut]

7. Perhaps the tide is turning on the turdblossom

Mr. Conyers has issued another subpoena for our boy KKKarl. Will everyone's favorite piece of cow poo be able to claim executive privilege now that his former boss is no longer the executive? Will we have an Attorney General that will enforce a House Judiciary subpoena when/if Mr. Holder is confirmed by the Senate? If I were a nasty piece of cow dung like Rove, I would start laying low.

[madfloridian]

8. I read that. Fingers crossed.

But he just keeps on getting credibility.

It's time now. I hope Conyers get backing to go after him.

[voc]

9. And the sad part is

He won't do a day.

[madfloridian]

10. From 2 years ago...about Siegelman...Rove's still free, still gets credibility.

Two years later he is still given media credibility and get cheers and ovations from colleges. Disgusting.

http://www.time.com/time/nation/article/0,8599,1627427,00.html

Rove Named in Alabama Controversy

"In the rough and tumble of Alabama politics, the scramble for power is often a blood sport. At the moment, the state's former Democratic governor, Don Siegelman, stands convicted of bribery and conspiracy charges and faces a sentence of up to 30 years in prison. Siegelman has long claimed that his prosecution was driven by politically motivated, Republican-appointed U.S. attorneys.

Now Karl Rove, the President's top political strategist, has been implicated in the controversy. A longtime Republican lawyer in Alabama swears she heard a top G.O.P. operative in the state say that Rove "had spoken with the Department of Justice" about "pursuing" Siegelman, with help from two of Alabama's U.S. attorneys."

[Jambalaya]

16. Smoking Gun

McCain Withheld Controversial Abramoff EmailFeb 25, 2008 ... McCain Withheld Controversial Abramoff Email - The Huffington Post. ... McCain has long bragged of his role in the Abramoff investigation, ...
www.huffingtonpost.com/2008/02/25/mccain-withheld-controver_n_88304.html - 141k - Cached - Similar pages___________________


You GOTTA read this article! DIRECTLY related to Siegelman controversy.

[Freddie Stubbs]

11. Did U of M's President, Donna Shalala, have anything to do with inviting him?

:shrug:

[Jambalaya]

15. Presidential Medal of Freedom?

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia




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5th President of the University of Miami
In office
2001 – present
Preceded by Edward T. Foote II

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6th Secretary of Health and Human Services
In office
January 22, 1993 – January 20, 2001
Preceded by Louis W. Sullivan
Succeeded by Tommy Thompson

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Born February 14, 1941 (1941-02-14) (age 67)
Cleveland, Ohio
Political party Democratic
Alma mater Western College for Women
Syracuse University
Religion Roman Catholic
Donna Edna Shalala (surname pronounced /ʃəˈleɪlə/ shə-LAY-lə; born February 14, 1941) has served as president of the University of Miami, a private university in Coral Gables, Florida, since 2001.

Prior to her appointment as University of Miami President, she served for eight years as Secretary of Health and Human Services under President Clinton.

She was awarded the Presidential Medal of Freedom, the nation's highest civilian honor, by President George W. Bush in June 2008.



Early life
Shalala was born in Cleveland, Ohio to Lebanese immigrant parents . She graduated from West Tech High School and received her bachelor's degree in 1962 from Western College for Women (which, in 1976, was merged with Miami University in Oxford, Ohio).




Academic career
Shalala began her teaching career as a political science professor at Baruch College (part of CUNY), where she also was a member of the American Federation of Teachers union. In 1972, Shalala became a professor of politics and education at Teachers College, Columbia University, a job she held until 1979. Concurrently, from 1977 to 1980, she served as the Assistant Secretary for Policy Development and Research at the U.S. Department of Housing and Urban Development during the Carter administration.

Shalala's first experience with academic administration came in 1980 when she became the 10th President of Hunter College, serving in this capacity until 1988.

She next served as Chancellor of the University of Wisconsin-Madison. Under her chancellorship and with her support, the University adopted a broad speech code subjecting students to disciplinary action for communications that were perceived as hate speech. That speech code was later found unconstitutional by a federal judge.<2> Also while chancellor, Shalala supported passage of a revised faculty speech code broadly restricting "harmful" speech in both "noninstructional" and "instructional" settings. The faculty speech code was abolished ten years later, after a number of professors were investigated for alleged or suspected violations.<3>


Custodial wages strike
Main article: University of Miami 2006 custodial workers' strike
Shalala was criticized for her handling of a nationally-publicized custodial workers' strike at the University of Miami which lasted from February 28 to May 1, 2006. Critics said that UM's custodial workers were among the lowest paid university-based custodians in the nation and were not earning a living wage until the strike prompted Shalala to raise wages. Shalala was also criticized for living in luxury while the custodians did not even have health insurance.<5> Shalala criticized union organizer's tactics, including a sit-in that she said prevented students from attending classes.<5>

[gratuitous]

13. Gee Karl, you can buffalo a bunch of college students

Care to step up to the big leagues, now? Against people who can recite your crimes chapter and verse from memory? Or are you still appearing only in "safe" venues?

[newtothegame]

14. Well I'd rather see the University at least get their monies worth...

Here in Iowa, he came and spoke at the University of Iowa and everyone spent the entire talk yelling at him and interuppting him. He didn't even get to speak, and so the asshole just stood up there smiling because he got paid for doing nothing. $40,000.

[bdamomma]

18. oh stop giving this criminal money, lock him up please.

[Frisbee]

20. Hopefully anything this POS got...

and everything he owns will soon be spent in a losing legal battle to keep his sorry ass of of prison for the rest of his worthless life.

[madfloridian]

21. Wayne Slater, author of Bush's brain...."the dance goes on"

http://trailblazersblog.dallasnews.com/archives/2009/01/rove-subpoenaed-the-dance-goes.html

"Rove subpoenaed: The dance goes on"

"Atlhough Obama & Co. say they want to look forward, not spend time investigating the Bush administartion, House Democrats are testing their clout by moving to subpoena Karl Rove, the Wall Street Journal reports. Michigan Rep. John Conyers, chair of the the House Judiciary Committee, has issued a subpoena for Rove to answer questions on the Justice Department's firings of U.S. attorneys in 2006, among other matters.

While in power, the Bush administration blocked congressional efforts to get aides to testify. Rove has said thanks, but no thanks. Conyers offers up a piquant reply:

"Change has come to Washington, and I hope Karl Rove is ready for it. "

[rpannier]

23. Where's his flag pin?

As to not torturous....

Okay Karl let me do the same things to you

[LaPera]

24. Had to see it coming down the pike, couldn't of happeed to a nicer guy huh?

A more partisan, elitist, torturest, always lying republican Nazi corporate ideology.....

[SecularMotion]

25. Storer Auditorium only holds 310 people

http://www.bus.miami.edu/explore-the-school/virtual-tour/storer-auditorium/index.html

[defendandprotect]

26. Vaguely recall University of Miami linked to CIA operations . . .

was pretty much CIA headquarters with huge numbers of them on campus back in the

1960's . . . ????

Am I wrong -- anyone else know anything about this?

Here it is --- JMWAVE ....!!!

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/JMWAVE

JMWAVE or JM/WAVE or JM WAVE was the codename for a major, secret United States covert operations and intelligence gathering station operated by the CIA from 1961 until 1968. It was headquartered in Building 25 25°37′13″N 80°23′56″W / 25.6202°N 80.3990°W / 25.6202; 80.3990 on the South Campus (formerly the site of Richmond Naval Air Station, an airship base about 12 miles south of the main campus) of the University of Miami in Miami, Florida. It was also referred to as the CIA's "Miami Station" or "Wave Station".<1><2><3><4><5>

JMWAVE underwent its first major development when it was established as the operations center for Task Force W, the CIA's unit dedicated to "Operation Mongoose"<2><6><7> - a US effort to overthrow President Fidel Castro's Communist government in Cuba. JMWAVE was also active in some form during the failed US-sponsored "Bay of Pigs" invasion of Cuba in April 1961.<8> The JMWAVE operation grew out of an earlier fledgling CIA office in Coral Gables.<1>

The station's activities reached their peak in late 1962 and early 1963 - the period of the Cuban Missile Crisis. Under Ted Shackley's leadership from 1962 to 1965, JMWAVE grew to be the largest CIA station in the world outside of the organization's headquarters in Langley, Virginia, with 300 to 400 professional operatives (possibly including about 100 based in Cuba) as well as an estimated 15,000 anti-Castro Cuban exiles on its payroll. The CIA was one of Miami's largest employers during this period. Exiles were trained in commando tactics, espionage and seamanship and the station supported numerous exile raids on Cuba.<1><2><9>

The main front company for JMWAVE was "Zenith Technical Enterprises, Inc." In addition, about 300 to 400 other front companies were created throughout South Florida with a large range of "safe houses", cover businesses and other properties. With an annual budget of approx. US$50 million (in 1960s dollars; US$50 million in 1962 dollars are worth US$333 million in 2006 dollars (PPP)<10>), the station had a major impact on the economy of South Florida, creating a local economic boom - particularly in the real estate, banking and certain manufacturing sectors. It also operated a fleet of aircraft and boats - this has been described as the third largest navy in the Caribbean at the time after the main US and Cuban navies. JMWAVE's activities were so widespread that they became an open secret amongst local Florida government and law enforcement agencies.<1><2>

On June 26, 1964, Look magazine published an exposé by David Wise and Thomas B. Ross which revealed that Zenith was a CIA front. The University of Miami authorities denied knowledge of the CIA operation (though Shackley would claim privately that University President Henry King Stanford was fully aware) and JMWAVE changed its main front company name from Zenith to "Melmar Corporation".<1>

By 1968, JMWAVE was increasingly regarded as obsolete. There was also concern that the station would become a public embarrassment to the University of Miami. Consequently, it was deactivated and replaced with a substantially smaller station at Miami Beach.<1>