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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:06 PM
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Look. I'm a cancer survivor (so far) myself so I feel for anyone dealing with it. But
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 07:08 PM by cyberpj
doesn't anyone else here think it's ODD (not) that Tony Snow announces his problem the day after Elizabeth Edwards is getting so much attention for her cancer?

I feel bad for both of them.

But I think it's crap that Mr. Snow had to announce his situation exactly when he did.

Sorry. But I know these guys will use anything and everything that helps themselves in the public eye.


And I think there's a nasty smell on the air.


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DesertRat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:08 PM
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1. No, I don't think he timed it this way.
I believe that his dr. did find a new growth and he announced it today because the surgery is on Mon.

I wish you continued good health.
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Bluzmann57 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:09 PM
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2. Now I am one who is normally leery of conspiracy theories
But this does seem too convenient.
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Forkboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:10 PM
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3. No,I suspect it's just coincidence.
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blindersoff Donating Member (224 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:10 PM
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4. well, this is colon cancer awareness month...
(my husband is an endoscopy nurse), so maybe he just had his screening and got bad news... or not. I too, am a survivor (7 yrs), but regardless, it is sad whenever anyone is diagnosed with cancer. It is a path that has an unknown end.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:10 PM
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14. Good for you! They SAY 7 years is a really good 'mark' for permanent cure, right? nt
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MoonRiver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:10 PM
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5. I think Snow is trying to get away from this cabal, that's dragging him into the abyss.
Maybe Elizabeth's situation gave him an idea about how to exit "gracefully."

Anyway, it's wonderful you're a survivor. My cousin is a breast cancer survivor (10 years and counting). It does happen, frequently!

:hug:
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:12 PM
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15. Thanks.
Mine was kidney cancer.

It ALL sucks.

Good on yer cousin, that's a really good time period!

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ScreamingMeemie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:16 PM
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18. My father is dealing with kidney cancer right now.
Partial nephrectomy, so far so good. Be well..
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:36 AM
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23. Healing thoughts for your father, MrsGrumpy.
Edited on Sat Mar-24-07 11:38 AM by Skidmore
My mother had renal cancer, but it was diagnosed much too late to treat. I'm wishing for you and your father much more life together ahead.
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AnnInLa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 03:50 PM
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28. I think he's trying to get away too.....
exactly what I thought when the announcement was made. (Which assumes he has a conscience....hmmm, guess we are wrong.)

Fast forward 2 generations: everyone will die from some type of cancer? I guess I'm getting too old too fast, but I know so many people who either have cancer, or are cancer survivors, and constantly looking over their shoulder for it to reoccur. Everyone I know has a personal story relating to cancer....was it always like this? Many years ago? I don't remember my parents and grandparents talking about alot of peoplee who had cancer. Damn.
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Bluedogvoter Donating Member (162 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:13 PM
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6. I don't think its odd.
I show him no less compassion becasue he is a republican.
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Spazito Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:16 PM
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7. I think it is simply coincidence ....
Snow's comments re Mrs. Edward's illness were very genuine and, I suspect, he knew at the time he, too, was going to have surgery and chose to announce it a day later.

I can't stand Snow re his job, his attitude, you name it, but I think this was honest and I hope both he and Mrs. Edwards the best in their individual fights.
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Bitwit1234 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:18 PM
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8. He probably had to- his operation is tomorrow.
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hang a left Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:22 PM
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9. I think it is BS
He is ducking out for the firestorm that cometh.

6-8 weeks. What a wimp.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:15 PM
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17. Have to admit I also thought 6-8 wks gets him out of press firestorms and under oaths too. nt
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Rosemary2205 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:43 AM
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24. What is wrong with you?
A wimp??? --- Look, you don't like Tony Snow and that's fine but calling someone needing 6-8 weeks to recover from cancer surgery a wimp is so totally unnecessary..........
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:24 PM
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10. also a cancer survivor here, but I think that's a difficult thing to time or fake, yet
this administration certainly benefits from fortuitous timing, so my money is that Damien Dubya 666 stared at Snow until he grew a tumor.

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CoffeeCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:34 PM
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11. Tony should have suspected that Junior....
Edited on Fri Mar-23-07 07:35 PM by TwoSparkles
...was an evil bad boy.

Note to Tony...when "Carmina Burana" seems to blare out of nowhere---whenever
a certain someone enters a room---time to find a new boss.

Run fer yer life!!
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 08:14 PM
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16. Your theory is highly possible - but with stomachs,
they say it comes from swallowing too much anger. Ya think?

I didn't mean he was faking - just that the timing of the announcement was interesting.

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MistressOverdone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:44 PM
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12. No, I just think that folks of a certain age
tend to deal with cancer more and they are both of the age.

Here's to continued good health for YOU!
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monmouth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-23-07 07:49 PM
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13. Tony hasn't looked too healthy for a while now. I thought it was the WH
environment, but now that this has come out, I think he was explaining ahead of time his upcoming absence.
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Berry Cool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:14 AM
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19. It's coincidence.
I refuse to go anyplace that would suggest it's not. It's tacky and in poor taste.
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Skidmore Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:26 AM
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20. As a cancer survivor, I would think that you would have some
idea of the anxiety surrounding health states that survivors experience. I am a cancer survivor and anything healthwise beyond a common cold can trigger an instant feeling of panic that it has come back. As a cancer survivor, I know if there was a new growth or lump that my oncologist is recommending be removed, I sure as hell would not wait to time that surgery so someone else can look good. I go and the the sooner, the better. Do you really believe that Snow's sense of mortality is any less acute than yours or mine? I'll take him at his word and allow him to do what it takes to recover his health. I'm no fan of his nor am I a fan of that viper's next at FOX from which he crawled into the cesspool that used to be the WH. I can only tell you how I have experienced the disease and remission, and I wouldn't wish it on another soul or question the treatment plan they must follow to recover.
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cyberpj Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 03:33 PM
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26. Truly didn't mean to offend. I just expressed an opinion about the timing of the 'announcement'.
And yes, having experienced the tests, the waiting, the surgery, the post-surgery and all the work and waiting involved I am sensitive to Tony's plight. I just found it odd that it would be announced at the same time as Edwards'. Meanwhile, someone told me it was because he had just been retested and didn't know results until that day. I hadn't known that.

Even so, I don't think it's totally out of bounds to question the way Bush admin uses the press to it's own advantage at EVERY opportunity. OR that THEY would indeed time the announcement to their benefit if at all possible.

While you and I may have a dark respect for this disease, let's face it, Rove & Co. respect nothing and I'm beyond being shocked by anything they might do.

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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 10:33 AM
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21. No. He previously had colon cancer.
It may be that he's had some kind of relapse or it may be unrelated, but I think it's highly unlikely that this is some sort of ploy.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 11:26 AM
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22. Colon cancer is a serious disease and survival rates
Colon cancer is a serious disease and survival rates for 5 years depend on staging at the time of diagnosis:

http://coloncancer.about.com/b/a/117466.htm?terms=survival+committee

The American Joint Committee on Cancer recently revised its cancer staging system. There used to be four stages: 1, 2, 3, and 4. Now, there are seven stages: 1, 2a, 2b, 3a, 3b, 3c, and 4. A new study in the Journal of the National Cancer Institute reports colon cancer survival rates for each of these seven stages.



According to the study, entitled "Colon Cancer Survival Rates With the New American Joint Committee on Cancer Sixth Edition Staging," five-year survival rates for colon cancer are as follows:

-Stage 1: 93%
-Stage 2a: 85%
-Stage 2b: 72%
-Stage 3a: 83%
-Stage 3b: 64%
-Stage 3c: 44%
-Stage 4: 8%

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Skittles Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 12:06 PM
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25. I'm giving him the benefit of the doubt here
I know he's a total dick but....well, I'll leave it at that
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crappyjazz Donating Member (886 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-24-07 03:43 PM
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27. I think if anything Tony would want to be in the news less
I believe it was coincidence
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