I'm unhappy with Beyonce's presence....

[bliss_eternal]

...given the other inaugural she performed for, and her comments of support for 'w.'

:thumbsdown:

Forgive me for being a downer.

[The Velveteen Ocelot]

1. *I* couldn't care less. This is a great day.

And nobody is gonna rain on my parade.

[bliss_eternal]

2. That's positive.

:)

[Cetacea]

60. Please sign petition for Secretary Of The Arts here. thanks

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=389x4855280

[cynatnite]

3. I don't care right now...

She sang beautifully. What a fab concert.

[bliss_eternal]

6. I muted her.

:(

[GodlessBiker]

4. Her job is to perform. That's what she is paid to do.

Ideology matters little, I would think.

[bliss_eternal]

9. Are they paid to perform for inaugurals...?

:shrug:

[Hanse]

5. I share your poutrage.

ZOMG!

[bliss_eternal]

7. Thanks...

lol. It's cool if you didn't. I know this is totally small and petty of me. But I'm ok w/that.

[cletustakethewheel]

8. She supported Dubya?! OMG!!! What was that all about?

:spray: :spray: :spray: :spray:

[bliss_eternal]

10. Who knows...?

:shrug:
Maybe she's like The Rock (former wrestler) that just believes in offering support of who ever is presiding over the country at the time.

[cletustakethewheel]

12. It might have been his support of cutting taxes for the wealthy

(which Pelosi wants to repeal and Obama apparently wants to let run out (?!), which goes against his platform promises). But I have faith that PE Obama has a bigger-picture reason for that because I think anyone making over 200 grand can handle a bit of an increase when those of us at the other end are getting hit left and right with various costs...

[stillcool]

14. No it doesn't...

he wants to roll back the taxes on the wealthiest, but never gave a time-table..nor has he yet.

[cletustakethewheel]

16. Here is what I read a couple of hours ago

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/18/pelosi-obama-disagree-on-tax-cuts-bush-investigations/

[stillcool]

42. ..'not a priority'?

no doubt considering where we are right now. I guess it doesn't matter that when he first proposed it, we hadn't lost nearly the amount of jobs we have now. I say, let all the corporations leave, and take their jobs someplace else, and start over. What say you?

[cletustakethewheel]

49. I am going to contain myself during this celebratory time, but...

I am livid. Can't say I didn't see it coming, though. My heart sank when, right before the election, that magic tax number kept going higher and higher. At the end, it was $250,000, which is the very upper echelon of earners in America. I would have rather seen it where Hillary mentioned, which was $95,000. The working class and below are getting nicked and dimed elsewhere and it's 'cause of all this. We have two wars going and a collapsed economy. The ones suffering are not those making six figures!

[proud2BlibKansan]

64. What are you talking about?

It was always $250,000. You are promoting a right wing myth, created to boost McCain's campaign and hurt Obama.

You do realize you are posting on a DEMOCRATIC board??

[cletustakethewheel]

73. Sorry, but I guess you didn't realize that it was $150,000, then 200 grand, then...

And don't give me that DEMOCRATIC shit, mister! I voted for Obama but DEMOCRACY means I have free speech. I didn't get a lobotomy when I voted and if I am upset, then that is good! I am upset for a good reason. We need to repeal those tax breaks YESTERDAY! Jesus, WTF is the debate with that? How are you going to fight for this cause with that attitude?!

[proud2BlibKansan]

74. Do your homework

Like I said, you are promoting a myth that started on Rush's show.

[cletustakethewheel]

78. Riiight...and I guess THIS is another myth, eh?

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2009/01/18/pelosi-obama-disagree-on-tax-cuts-bush-investigations/

[proud2BlibKansan]

79. That's another subject.

But go for it if it works for ya.

[Doremus]

90. It never was.

That was a McPuke lie that the media kept repeating.

It never was $150k OR $200k. It ALWAYS was $250K.

[cletustakethewheel]

97. And now it's ZILCH!!! How do you like them apples?

Me neither.

[stillcool]

70. yeah well..enjoy your lividness..

the 'magic tax number' never went 'higher'. That's an old talking point. 250,000 is no where near the 'upper echelon'.

[cletustakethewheel]

75. So the top 5% of the country is not the upper echelon? On what planet?

MIDDLE class is around $40,000 for a person, is it not? That is the mean income in the country.

[stillcool]

80. the top 2% is the higher echelon..

who are the major beneficiaries of Bush's tax cuts. The Upper-middle class gets whacked on their taxes. They don't have the tax havens, the loop-holes, or the degree of wealth that buys favorable legislation.

[cletustakethewheel]

82. Let me put this another way:

95% of Americans make BELOW two hundred grand. The gap between rich and poor is growing. Sounds like you make that much, which is why you are trying to defend it. I severely doubt that if you were making $35,000 you would be sticking up for the wealthy!:rofl:

[stillcool]

88. I agree...

the middle class is disappearing. I have never been middle-class. I never reached that status. I guess I know too many people who own their own businesses and have taken a beating on their taxes. :rofl:

[cletustakethewheel]

96. So you are ROTFLYAO because....?

I voted for Obama, became very turned off to Hillary early on because of her tactics, however, one thing that I agreed with her on was the proposal to tax those making over $95,000. I am also very disappointed that the PE is "not interested" in rolling back the tax breaks for the wealthy because I am convinced that one very big reason the economy was run into the ground was Bush's policy of favoring the wealthy, along with the two illegal wars. So yeah, I am royally pissed.

[stillcool]

113. "Not interested"?

you're hysterical...:rofl:

[misanthrope]

22. She's a notorious diva, self-centered, vain and condescending...

...She doesn't care who it's for, it's all about the personal publicity for her.

[cletustakethewheel]

26. Um...don't hold back now...

Seriously, although I don't know the woman personally, she has never had the rep for those things you mention. Where do you get your info? My questioning of her voting habits doesn't mean I think she is a terrible human being. People are not always informed voters, as I am sure you realize.

[misanthrope]

30. I have a lot of friends in the entertainment biz...

...in various arenas. Believe me, Beyonce is a stereotype of showbiz arrogance and that word has been out for a few years now.

[cletustakethewheel]

33. I was gonna ask you if you had some type of inside info...I remember that mess

about Jennifer Hudson and how Beyonce supposedly was envious of her acting/singing chops.

[bliss_eternal]

36. I didn't hear about that...

...was that the rumour circulating during/after the Dreamgirls film?

A friend and I watched the Golden Globes together when she was nominated.
I felt kind of bad for her, as you could see how much she wanted to win.
The disappointment when she didn't win, was pretty visible.

[cletustakethewheel]

37. Yah, it's just a rumor, so I probably shouldn't circulate without knowing for sure

Jennifer Hudson just has that ability to do dramatic roles. Beyonce may have the drive, but you need to be honest with yourself and make sure that you have what it takes. However, I could understand how it would sting to have a novice outshine you...

[bliss_eternal]

43. LOL...

You're human, and hardly the first to circulate an unfounded rumour. ;)

I haven't seen Dreamgirls. But if Hudson's performance outshined Knowles, I guess it may be due in part to Hudson's ability to be vunlnerable in front of the camera. I haven't seen that w/B. Knowles. I've seen someone that is very aware of being watched, who works hard at always looking good. Maybe in time if she continues with acting, she'll learn to leave Beyonce behind and take on other personas.

I don't fault her for her attempting to always look good. It's got to be challenging to be so young and successful, and have the word always scrutinizing your every move. It's way tougher (imo) for women in the industry.

[cletustakethewheel]

48. I haven't seen the movie also, but I saw a clip of Hudson that was riveting

I think you are right about why that is, compared with Beyonce. Also, there is the personality issue. When Hudson was on American Idol, I knew she was going places. She just had that spark. I think Beyonce is gorgeous and I also think she has got incredible dancing moves and a great voice. But there is that 'it' factor that comes into play...

[bliss_eternal]

51. I agree from the clips I saw...

...Hudson was impressive, and moving. I think hers was the last season of AI I viewed, and she was amazing on the show.

Anyone can pretend to be someone else. It takes something more to be able to dig down into yourself and find things that make a character portrayal interesting, and allows people to identify with the character.

For all of Madonna's 'star quality' she wasn't able to get past 'madonna' to deliver a performance people could identify with.
Though I heard she was wonderful in Evita (didn't see it). And know she was natural (and well reviewed) early on for Desperately Seeking Susan.

[cletustakethewheel]

54. Funny you should mention Madonna...it proves my point on the 'it" factor:

Madonna never will be considered one of the strongest pop singers in history, but her genius was in the image. She was the perfect one to usher in the video age. She had style, both in dress and dancing. People emulated her. She also had pizzazz. She knew how to milk controversy and use it to her advantage. She had the ability to adapt to the changing fads and not miss a beat. That is rare in show biz, especially the music industry!

[blue_onyx]

103. It's all about the "it factor"

or the "x factor" as Simon from American Idol would say. All you have to do is watch American Idol to see tons and tons of fantastic singers who would never make it. Most of the pop singers around today wouldn't be successful if it was based on who was the strongest singer. I love Madonna and I agree with everything you said in regards to her :)

[slampoet]

66. I have also heard her performance riders are as bad as they come.

The co-worker i had compared her to the time he had to serve food to Bobby Brown and Whitney Houston.



I have however dealt with Shakira's people and they are not as bad as quite a few rock stars i could mention like <cough> Smashing Pumpkins.

[bliss_eternal]

71. LOL! Who doesn't know...?

...that Billy Corgan is bat shit crazy, arrogant and completely full of himself? Admittedly, he's made some interesting music and is an dynamic artist. But I can appreciate his work and still admit he's out of his friggin' mind.

I have little respect for those that hold themselves above their bandmates, and makes a concentrated effort to trash them in public arenas.

[slampoet]

77. I served the Smashin Pumpkins on their tour for their FIRST album and all of them were bad.

I could have understood if a veteran band was going to give me trouble but Pearl Jam and the Red Hot Chili Peppers were also onstage that night and were gracious and thankful even with many more years under their belt.

Actually I didn't like their music at all but the band that treated the help the best was .38 Special.

Bootsy Collins was pretty cool to us too.


Aw man now I'm just sad that James Brown didn't live to perform at this concert.


I really miss James.

[bliss_eternal]

81. I thought about James while watching.

Especially during Usher's performance. I recall Jame's efforts (with Stevie Wonder) to get MLK's b'day an official holiday. I miss him, too.

I'm sorry to hear about the Pumpkins being so awful. But given their short lived careers, I'm not all that surprised.
It's nice to hear (yet another) positive report of the Chilis and Peal Jam. Two of my favorite liberal bands.

I laughed aloud about .38 special--that's so funny!

Thanks for sharing! :hi:

[asdjrocky]

99. RHCP are some of the best guys out there working today.

I was lucky enough to open for them a few times long ago. (I'm talking Mothers Milk days here.) Great band, great group of guys, and lot's of fun.

[EmilyAnne]

95. Gwen Stefani is the worst of them all. Though, this was over a decade ago and I'm sure she has

matured.

[bliss_eternal]

107. What was...?

Did you have some sort of experience w/her?

[beac]

108. Actually, this one doesn't look too bad at all:

http://www.thesmokinggun.com/backstagetour/beyonce/beyonce1.html

But she sure does love her juicy chicken!

I used to work for a venue and was AMAZED at the things people would try and get us to pony up for them. They would be performing one night with 4 people in the band and demand things like 6 cases of beer, dozens of sodas, a fully stocked top-shelf bar and enough snacks to restock their tour bus for weeks! Unreal.

[blue_onyx]

101. Very Interesting...

Beyonce always came off that way to me. She just didn't seem like she would be a pleasant person to be around.

[fed_up_mother]

109. She's from my neck of the woods, and I love how she's very close to her family

Some hollywood types, celebrities, etc., really don't stay close to their families the way she has.

[4 t 4]

93. I don't remember or didn't know that

WTF ?

[Number23]

110. I think she was just supporting a fellow Texan. Beyonce is a beautiful girl...

but she doesn't strike me as all that deep...

[MiniMe]

11. Could have been a request by the Obama girls

Sasha had her camera out.

[bliss_eternal]

13. LOL!

Little one's do seem to love her.
I'm always surprised when out shopping to hear kids singing (and dancing) along to her songs--when they are played in stores.

[2Design]

32. It was funny to watch her with her camera - she is a celebrity now

but she is wanting the pictures of these others - whom I assume - her father could invite for lunch for her to meet

[MercutioATC]

I don't care about her politics. I object because she has no talent.

God, I hate that woman's music.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

25. She gets on my nerves, frankly.

[bliss_eternal]

28. Ding ding ding...!

I *totally* agree w/this!

I hate being judgemental of people's art. But I don't get the appeal w/her.
At the same time, I hate slamming her, her talent (or lack thereof). She's a woman and women get slammed far to frequently, merely for existing.

(sigh)

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

31. I think Beyonce is trying too hard to be Diana Ross or something.

I do think Mary J. Blige, on the other hand, has great vocal range and stage presence.

[bliss_eternal]

39. Interesting...

...an older female friend of mine (contemporary of Ross's era) has long said she felt, Beyonce's dad was pushing her in the Diana Ross direction. Complete with unceremonious dumping of the Supremes (Destiny's Child in her case).

It could be her own ambition. But after reading (and watching) interviews, I always felt her father was a significant catalyst in her life. But I could be wrong.

I like your musical taste. I feel Mary J. Blige is only improving with time. Her growth as an artist (and human being) is impressive to me. She's been so outspoken about her past, mistakes, growth, etc. I guess I appreciate artists that aren't ashamed of their meager beginnings and open to allowing others to see warts and all. ;)

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

116. Thanks.

I agree with you about the dumping of Destiny's Child.

[cletustakethewheel]

35. Despite everything we can say about Beyonce

to suggest that she has NO talent is absurd. She is an amazing singer, but you have to have the kind of caliber of songs that Motown was famous for to really show off your abilities to the fullest. And that godawful style of runs (like Christina Aguillera likes to do) is just distracting and annoying. So lose that and get well-crafted songs and she is up there right now. (For the record, I like that one of hers "Irreplaceable," along with songs she did with her former group, and I don't like 99% of songs I hear today!)

[bliss_eternal]

44. I apologize.

I shouldn't say that.

I should say, "I" don't care for her work. Clearly she wouldn't be as successful as she is, if many others didn't appreciate what she does.

[cletustakethewheel]

50. Well, not to be a contrarian here, but...

I have heard popular "artists" and cannot fathom how THEY got ahead before some other people did. Especially with no ability to construct a pleasant melody (or they sampled it, which means took it from someone talented!) and/or had inane lyrics that were stoopid and/or obscene!

[MercutioATC]

59. "Irreplaceable" is a great example of why I can't stand her.

She has a decent (not spectacular) voice, but the lyrics she sings are just downright imbicilic.

To wit:

To the left, to the left
To the left, to the left
To the left, to the left

Everything you own in the box to the left
In the closet that's my stuff, yes
If I bought it please don't touch

And keep talking that mess, that's fine
But could you walk and talk at the same time?
And it's my mine name that is on that tag
So remove your bags let me call you a cab

Standing in the front yard telling me
How I'm such a fool, talking about
How I'll never ever find a man like you
You got me twisted

You must not know 'bout me
You must not know 'bout me
I could have another you in a minute
Matter fact he'll be here in a minute, baby

You must not know 'bout me
You must not know 'bout me
I can have another you by tomorrow
So don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable

So go ahead and get gone
And call up that chick and see if she's home
Oops, I bet ya thought that I didn't know
What did you think I was putting you out for?

Because you was untrue
Rolling her around in the car that I bought you
Baby you dropped them keys
Hurry up before your taxi leaves

Standing in the front yard telling me
How I am such a fool, talking about
How I'll never ever find a man like you
You got me twisted

You must not know 'bout me
You must not know 'bout me
I can have another you in a minute
Matter fact he'll be here in a minute, baby

You must not know 'bout me
You must not know 'bout me
I'll have another you by tomorrow
So don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable

So since I'm not your everything
How about I'll be nothing, nothing at all to you
Baby I won't shed a tear for you, I won't lose a wink of sleep
'Cause the truth of the matter is replacing you is so easy

To the left, to the left
To the left, to the left
To the left, to the left
Everything you own in the box to the left
To the left, to the left
Don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable

You must not know 'bout me
You must not know 'bout me
I can have another you in a minute
Matter fact he'll be here in a minute, baby

You must not know 'bout me
You must not know 'bout me
I can have another you by tomorrow
So don't you ever for a second get to thinking, baby

You must not know 'bout me
You must not know 'bout me
I can have another you in a minute
Matter fact he'll be here in a minute

You could pack all your things, we're finished
(You must not know 'bout me)
'Cause you made your bed, now lay in it
(You must not know 'bout me)
I can have another you by tomorrow
Don't you ever for a second get to thinking you're irreplaceable

Endless repetition of the same moronic theme: "You're a bum. I could replace you with another bum any time. In fact, the new bum is on his way over now."

Don't even get me started on "Single Ladies".....

[cletustakethewheel]

98. You are against the ideas presented in the song; I just enjoy the melody/hooks

It's catchy like peanut butter. I don't always have to get into a "Sad-eyed Lady of the Lowlands" type of song.

[Kahuna]

106. When I first heard that song, I thought it was a woman calling out instructions..

in the heat of passion. Is that wrong? :shrug:

[blue_onyx]

104. Beyonce does have talent but she isn't an amazing singer

She's a good singer but nowhere close to as good as Christina, who is up there with Mariah, Whitney, and Celine. Although I do agree about the "godawful style of runs" Christina tends to do.

[Kahuna]

105. Exactly. She's just "adequate." She can carry a tune. But there is nothing

"amazing" about her skills. She's no Mariah, Christina, Whitney or Celine. She sure as hell is no Aretha, Patty or Natalie.

[Kahuna]

45. I can't stand her "singing" either. Yick!

:puke:

[bliss_eternal]

47. now...now.

lol. :spray:

try to remember, some of her fans are on this board.
we should try to be respectful of other member's taste in music.

[Kahuna]

53. If her fans don't realize that there ARE people who don't see her appeal..

that's THEIR problem. And I don't need a lecture from you about it either.

[bliss_eternal]

56. Sorry about that.

I wasn't entirely serious.
Teasing more than anything, (which is why I included the lol).
Sincere apologies that this wasn't clear.

I try not to lecture, as everyone's entitled to their opinion.

[Kahuna]

61. Thanks. I'm sorry too... After I read some of your other posts..

I realized that you were being facetious. :hug:

[bliss_eternal]

63. I'm glad.

No harm done.

:hug: Take care. :hi:

[stillcool]

15. What about John Mellencamp?

Garth Brooks, and other Republicans that supported George Bush?

[Tangerine LaBamba]

18. Mellencamp was NEVER a Republican

Where do you get your information? He was an Obama supporter early on, came out against Dumbya as soon as he invaded Iraq.

Mellencamp also caught all kinds of crap from the people in the town in Indiana where he resides for his anti-war stance.

Mellencamp. Jeez, you really blew that one.

[SCRUBDASHRUB]

19. Mellencamp is a Dem. I recall him on the campaign trail for Kerry in 2004.

Also, he gives solidly to Dems.


http://www.newsmeat.com/celebrity_political_donations/John_Mellencamp.php

[KharmaTrain]

20. Mellencamp Has And Always Will Be A Democrat

He played at the John Kerry concerts in '04, worked for John Edwards in the primaries and campaigned for President Obama. Doesn't sound like a repugican to me.

IRC, Brooks is a Democrat, too.

[JerseygirlCT]

21. Mellencamp isn't a Republican, AFAIK, but he is

a superbly mediocre musician! That's what disappointed me about his inclusion.

[Cha]

23. John Melloncamp never supported

bush and Garth Brooks is a Dem. And, I don't believe Beyonce did, either..is there a link to all this gossip on this thread?

[bliss_eternal]

24. I was only aware of G. Brooks...

...he get's a pass from me, as he seems to be a decent human being (in terms of the issues he's supported).
Didn't know Mellencamp was there, and don't know much about him.

Beyonce's been rather outspoken on some issues I disagree with. :shrug:
Again, merely my $.02, and admittedly small minded of me.

[Sebastian Doyle]

27. Neither John Mellencamp or Garth Brooks are Repukes

Mellencamp (along with Willie Nelson and Neil Young) started "Farm Aid". Hardly a Conservative effort. The Repukes (and DLC) would have had "Monsanto Aid"

Garth recorded a song which condemned racism, sexism, homophobia, and corporatism. Hardly the values of a Freeper. (and it got him a lot of shit from the Nashville "establishment", as did his song where an abused wife shoots her cheating and beating husband.)

[stillcool]

41. shows you how much I know..

[bliss_eternal]

46. Thank you for this.

I've always liked Garth Brook's work and charitable efforts. I wasn't aware of this particular song, it sounds awesome!

I guess lots assume anyone that sings country music is conservative.
In many instances, they aren't wrong.

[Sebastian Doyle]

72. The song "We Shall Be Free" is indeed awesome!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XnVwvKM3ARg

This ain't comin' from no prophet
Just an ordinary man
When I close my eyes I see
The way this world shall be
When we all walk hand in hand

When the last child cries for a crust of bread
When the last man dies for just words that he said
When there's shelter over the poorest head
We shall be free

When the last thing we notice is the color of skin
And the first thing we look for is the beauty within
When the skies and the oceans are clean again
Then we shall be free

We shall be free
We shall be free
Stand straight, walk proud
'Cause we shall be free

When we're free to love anyone we choose
When this world's big enough for all different views
When we all can worship from our own kind of pew
Then we shall be free
We shall be free

We shall be free
Have a little faith
Hold out
'Cause we shall be free

And when money talks for the very last time
And nobody walks a step behind
When there's only one race and that's mankind
Then we shall be free

We shall be free
We shall be free
Stand straight, walk proud, have a little faith, hold out
We shall be free

We shall be free
We shall be free
Stand straight, have a little faith

We shall be free

[cali]

29. shows you no nothing about Mellencamp

hard core dem who supported JE. He's always been a dem. Why shoot off your mouth about something you know jackshit about?

[stillcool]

38. sorry..I only know his music..

we have some friends over and someone mentioned he was a republican. I'll have to go straighten them out.

[lonestarnot]

40. LOL

:spank: :spank: :spank: :evilgrin:

[mmonk]

57. This John Mellencamp? This one is the only one I know.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toDus4ZyoFU

[slampoet]

58. The reason Garth Brooks is considered a Republican, he has a degree in Marketing and not Music

During the 90's a lot was made about how Garth Brooks only went into Country music because it was a money maker. This was proven when Garth released that Ziggy Stardust wannabe album.

Garth Brooks has always been in questionable taste for anyone who doesn't buy into the payola hype the music industry and this was reflected in Brooks' AMAZINGLY POOR CHOICE of song to do.

Did Brooks choose "American Pie" only to get more stage time with an endless song? Or did he figure that Obama likes Pie?

Otherwise there is NO reason to sing a plane crash pop star song to a president.

Given Paul Wellstone and others it was unforgivable.

afterall did James Taylor sing "Fire and Rain?"

[Tangerine LaBamba]

89. I love critics

It's so easy to sit there and carp, meanwhile overlooking the vast talent, time, and energy that came together to celebrate a wonderful day.

And what have you done to contribute to this great world of ours besides pound your keyboard in frustration?

Enjoy your time under your rock. Make sure to wear your "I Am A Failed Buzzkill" t-shirt.

[slampoet]

102. I am taking a break from making PIES for the inauguration party. Our "Aloha Obama Pie" will be

at a buffet at the Rhode Island Democratic party celebration AND we already have pies that the Mayor's office is taking to DC to serve at one of the banquets.


This is an honor bestowed on my partner's Pie company from the Obama campaign because of our hard work handing out free Sweet Potato Pie to all the volunteers at Obama Headquarters in the last days of the campaign.

I also in my previous job working for AKAI i was the one who TAUGHT one of Shakira's people how to use the MPC2500 Sequencer that runs all of Shakira's stage show. That person is possibly responsible for backing up Shakira during todays concert, but maybe not. Look up the Akai MPC or the Akai EWI and know that they would not be on the market in their current form w/o the work i did for the Akai company.

I was also the person who saved the entire documentation for the Akai product line when their company was taken over by Akai. Without my efforts the MPC3000 Sequencer that Sheryl Crow uses as the center of her studio wouldn't have spare parts and repair diagrams.


I am not a critic. I am a former insider who now has a business in a different field and i have seen things that you haven't. if you had you would be giving me some slack.


Stop displaying your ignorance like it is something to be proud of. EVERYBODY has a story about crossed paths with stars. I have many.


Hell, even my momma was a bodyguard for James Brown.

[slampoet]

111. See? the truth shuts up assholes EVERY TIME.

[ecstatic]

17. I was happy to see her but keep in mind, that young lady is pure unadulterated

ambition. I am a fan, but she is brutal when it comes to career and doesn't care who she steps on. She performed with Bush to further her career, and her performance with Obama was to further her career as well.

[bliss_eternal]

34. Hey TruthHurts...

:hi:

Gosh I'm sorry. I hate to bash, especially when someone like you comes along (a fan).
I sincerely hope this didn't offend you. :hug:

When you put it in these terms, I'll probably have to give her a pass.
Shame on me for not seeing that she was just playing the career game.

I can dislike it, from my 'political purist' stand point. ;)
But I certainly can't fault her for doing something a man in her position may be inclined to do as well.

[slampoet]

65. So you're saying it is OK for her to use America's Concert for her own gain?

What MAN was at Bush's inauguration and this one?


Whatever happened to Pete Seeger Singing "This Land is Your Land"?



BTW the funny little hat Seeger was wearing is from his "Hats For the Homeless"

That is what a REAL democrat wears.

[bliss_eternal]

76. Not at all.

I'm attempting to allow for the fact that she's human. Sometimes human beings are ambitious. Sometimes their motives aren't entirely altruistic. I don't have to like her choice. I'm attempting to understand her choice, in the grand scheme of things.

I'm not personally aware that any man is using the concert for "gain." Nor was I attempting to say any were. Merely saying that men aren't denigrated for ambition, while women are. Hope this makes sense.

[spanone]

52. i just consider it her evolution......and welcome her to the party

[bliss_eternal]

84. What a nice thing to say.

So open-minded, kind and generous. Thanks for this!

[alfredo]

55. Obama's comments after the music made up for it. I also loved his

interaction with his daughter. You can tell she approved of his speech.

[Loge23]

62. Guess we all have a ways to go still

So now we're vilifying Beyonce...and throw in Garth Brooks and Mellencamp too - they must be right wing, after all they're from the midwest somewhere!
Intolerance and hatred - save it for those who actually do harm to our country - not those who you just don't like.
I thought Mellencamp, Beyonce, and Garth were all terrific.

[bliss_eternal]

67. Whoa.

You're totally entitled to your perception of this thread, but it seems you may have missed some of my comments.
I'm not villifying Beyonce, Mellencamp or Garth.

I don't care for Ms. Knowles work, but I've been apologetic in this thread--and acknowledged that my comment was petty.
My issue was completely based on my desire for politcal purity (not particularly realistic, btw). But I'm aware of it.

I didn't say anything denigrating about Brooks or Mellencamp. I expressed appreciation for Brooks work on behalf of several charities (that I'm aware of), and a song that another poster shared speaks against forms of hatred.

For the record, I've long considered Brooks a decent dude.

[slampoet]

68. You really thought American Pie was appropriate? What makes you say that?

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

69. Beyonce never made comments supporting Bush, and has had to combat reports

that she is a Republican.

She, when she was in destiny's child, performed for the President in 2000, likely because they were both from TX.

[firedupdem]

83. Thank You. I get so sick of hearing that myth. What was she then,

19? She has been a strong supporter of Obama and she did a great job today. If her group performed for Bush since they are from Texas....be mad at her daddy the manager.

[bliss_eternal]

87. That's fair.

What I've seen of "daddy manager".... bleh! Not crazy about him.

[Cash_thatswhatiwant]

100. Yes...at the time she likely did whatever her father told her. He probably thought playing for

the President would be a good opportunity and they took it.

[otohara]

86. Exactly - Here's The Story Where She Clearly States

I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN....http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/beyonce%20im%20not%20a%20republican_10_06_2006

[otohara]

85. Here's What She Says About "W" & I'M NOT A REPUBLICAN

BEYONCE KNOWLES has fired back at reports she's a Republican, insisting too many people have read too much into her performance at fellow Texan GEORGE W BUSH's presidential inauguration celebration. The former DESTINY'S CHILD star has been labelled a Bush fan ever since she performed with her group at the White House in 2001, but she insists she never talks publicly about politics and has never offered her support to the President. She says, "I played at the inauguration because there were a lot of kids in the audience that I wanted to reach, that's all. "Maybe one day I will speak of my political beliefs, but only when I know what I'm talking about." http://www.contactmusic.com/new/xmlfeed.nsf/mndwebpages/beyonce%20im%20not%20a%20republican_10_06_2006

Google it before making such assumptions.

[bliss_eternal]

91. I'm open...

...to correction, and do appreciate the link.

I'll be honest in that I don't recall "where"--but I KNOW I heard her make some 'w' supportive comments. I know I read some quotes taken from a decent source on this board years ago.

It's possible the report I recall reading (and hearing) was taken out of context, and I'll allow for that.

But it's also possible that she (like other celeb.) has rethought those comments and is now attempting to distance herself from them. It happens all the time.

Again, I'm open either way--and appreciate the link and quote. Thanks.

[NJCher]

112. she's my neighbor's daughter-in-law

I would be real surprised if she was a Republican in that family.



Cher

[bertman]

92. Sing?? Every time I have seen her perform it was the shaky-shake that impressed me.

[Tangerine LaBamba]

114. Are you aware

that Shakira sings, too?

I wonder if anyone's gonna get all upset because Shakira's not a citizen, can't vote, but HAD THE NERVE TO PERFORM IN TODAY'S CONCERT?

Some people, I swear, they have to go looking for things to harsh the buzz.

Anyway, Shakira sings. I just wanted you to know.

[bertman]

117. Yes, thank you, Tangerine. I am now aware, having witnessed her crooning beside

Stevie Wonder and Usher today.

A most restrained performance it was.

And Beyonce did a very creditable rendition herself.


;)

[Sultana]

94. I am with you

It's an awful choice....


But Beyaki won't stop me from celebrating :D

[OPERATIONMINDCRIME]

115. I'm Glad You're Unhappy.

:thumbsup: