I am posting using Windows 7, it actually works, screenshot to follow

[DainBramaged]

Interesting day. I am exhausted.

Goin to work the pics, back in a bit.

[BlooInBloo]

1. Grats.

I never understood the point of installing beta OS, unless you're an app dev, testing compatibility.

But grats.

[DainBramaged]

4. I am and this is important software, XP will not hold up forever

And XP is in 90% of th business still. Vista is for home users.

[BlooInBloo]

5. Well there you go then. :)

[comrade snarky]

11. They just extended XP licensing until May

For corporate buyers. No one, and I mean no one is moving to Vista. It's dead from a business standpoint.

[DainBramaged]

14. Yup, I bought 20 new licenses, we ain't getting stuck in the cold.

[foo_bar]

27. I dunno, the Ubuntu beta seems more stable than the production version

Running pre-production Microshaft warez is fairly pointless though, since it takes a couple "service packs" to reach the equivalent of a beta state anyway, so their pre-release software is like, not even at the gathering requirements stage; the only reason it doesn't fill up a 1 TB drive and 100 GB of RAM is it's not 2010 yet. But yeah, beta OS's can be alright when the features being tested are simply patches to the latest kernel/file system libraries/whatever, whereas monolith software companies tend to view public betas as a way to outsource QA, which frees up their programmers to add new untested features.

[rangersmith82]

2. I thought Windows 7 was...

Vista??

[BlooInBloo]

6. Nope. It's the one after vista. Thank gawd.

[Catshrink]

46. Did they skip the Vista SPs and go straight to a new version?

[DainBramaged]

48. Vista SP 2 is in beta testing

[DireStrike]

3. How many gigs of ram does it require? 10?

[BlooInBloo]

7. (snarfle)

[DainBramaged]

9. I have one gig in ,and the system says I am using 55% of my memory

with three IE windows open I'm running te performance monitor, and it JUST finished the performance evaluation (this little baby is a 3.3).

[anigbrowl]

16. Well, that's pretty similar to XP

I have an almost identical system to yours right here, and I'm using about 70% of my RAM under similar conditions, though I do have a lot of services running.

[DireStrike]

66. Ok, that doesn't sound bad at all.

Thanks for the info. Hope it doesn't bloat up too much from here out.

[comrade snarky]

8. What's the platform you installed on?

I hear it's supposed to have been optimized to run better than Vista on the less powerful computers. Sounds more like a Vista service pack than a new OS.

Haven't tried it yet myself though I have an old dell I may sacrifice.

[DainBramaged]

10. Clean install will not install over XP

Installing AVG anti-vir specifically for Windows 7

[comrade snarky]

12. Sorry, I meant hardware...

Not O.S.

[DainBramaged]

13. Intel 775 motherboard (new) 2.8 P4 socket 775 single core, 120 GB hard drive

One gb of PC2 5200 ram, Nvidia 7100GS PCI-E video card. Slammed it together this afternoon.

[comrade snarky]

17. Not exactly a high end gaming system then :-)

[DainBramaged]

19. A basic system anyone would own, or on a desktop at work

[BlooInBloo]

25. SxS is perfectly possible, of course.

http://lifehacker.com/5126781/how-to-dual-boot-windows-7-with-xp-or-vista

[DainBramaged]

34. It did a partition itself, left XP on the other partition

[NMDemDist2]

15. I'm replying so I can watch your progress.

one of the reasons this laptop was bought as a lease return (used) instead of a new one was the Vista issue.

I'm all ears (eyes)

thanks for the reports :hi:

[DainBramaged]

21. I am taking a break soon to post pics I took on Photobucket

It is a nice smooth system so far. And NOT resource hungry and no file glitchs like Vista.

[Wickerman]

18. I hope they take the time to test it well

I always wait until service pak 2 for my home machines and for Vista I ain't going period. Wonder if they'll offer support for XP as long as W7-SP2?

[Shardik]

20. I beta tested Vista and am hesitant after all the time and hardware

changes I made during that beta. If you tested Vista, how does this compare?

One thing that concerns me is the fact that they are going to offer what has been a part of windows as "a la carte" meaning that you will buy a bare bones OS and add to it if you decide you want any native programs. Which might end up disappointing their expectations when people start loading Opera, firefox and any of the open source "media centers" ot there.

[DainBramaged]

22. MUCH smoother, and they have been working with the developers so that might not be true.

AVG installed (forgot about it).

[GreenInNC]

23. I must be the one person in the world

who has not had any problems with Vista.

[DainBramaged]

24. My notebook is fine, as is my Daughters, but they are not business systems

many of the apps at work (along with some of the equipment) will NOT work with Vista.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

26. Hubby asks

did they go back to a DOS kernel rather than the NT kernal like they used with 2000 and XP?

[BlooInBloo]

29. wtf? Does hubby have any particular reason to believe such a bizarre notion?

[DainBramaged]

30. GREAT question, will check

I checked it's a cream kernel. :hug:

[BlooInBloo]

31. It's a freakish question. It's nt.

[ayeshahaqqiqa]

39. Thanks

He had heard rumors they had gone back to DOS. I know this is a minor matter, but he was curious and figured you would know. Thanks for the reply!

[DainBramaged]

43. They stuck wth the NTFS kernel, much more stable than a Dos kernel

but they creamed it nicely this version. :hug:

[ProgressiveProfessor]

32. No

Win7 should get the updated file system as well

[Statistical]

75. No. Using dos as a kernel was a "hack"

Windows 9x (95, 98, Me) essentially were not even OS in the true sense of the word.

It was more like the windows program running on a DOS OS.

It was hack left over from windows 3.11 where even if you "booted into windows" what was happening was
you booted into DOS and then windows.exe was executed.

Nobody will ever go back to that.
There is absolutely no reason.
It was a workaround to use existing DOS resources and it wasn't a very good one at that.

[DainBramaged]

28. PICTURE HEAVY-WARNING Pics via camera (didn't have any software I knew would work, LOL)

The system I slammed together today (I have 9 other desktops in the apartment for various applications/testing and games)


initial INSTALL


INSTALLING


FIRST BOOT


START MENU


CONTROL PANEL (HUGE)


PERFORMANCE MONITOR


PREVIEW PANE


INITIAL SETUP USER SCREEN

[NMDemDist2]

33. OMG!!!!! I want that beta fish desktop

if I send you my email will you send it to me??

or can I download it somewhere?

[DainBramaged]

35. Uh, I have to check the system, it is so cool though isn't it.

It's a jpg in windows/web/wallpaper, pm me. They have a beautiful assortment of backgrounds.

[NMDemDist2]

38. I found it, thanks

that is totally cool.

a betta fish for a beta tester :rofl:

[Catshrink]

52. It's certainly better than the TeleTubbies background.

[DainBramaged]

62. I like the TeleTubbies

Imagine watching the TeleTubbies in the 60's doing acid, what would the world be like.

[L0oniX]

61. Yes ..that alone makes it worth the upgrade.

:evilgrin:

[customerserviceguy]

36. good lord, that's an ancient box you've put it in!

I guess it's what's inside that counts, right?

Thanks for your efforts, I was not expecting much of Win7 after seeing Vista. I figured as soon as WinXP was officially dead and buried, I'd just start installing Linux after that.

[DainBramaged]

40. This old Acer case is great to work with, room, mega bays

I have a 450watt power supply in it (Antec), and lots of cooling. It has been "the mule" for about 5 years.

[customerserviceguy]

50. Sorta like putting

a V-8 in a Chevette!

[DainBramaged]

53. Well, I have 9 active systems here (I will take pics) on three desks

in the closet, and the laptops. Plus three in stages waiting to parts (for work and friends).

[tabatha]

42. Thanks. Looks better than Vista.

Vista had just too much stuff on the screen.
Looks more like XP.

Hope drivers are totally portable.

[DainBramaged]

44. I am playing with XP applications now, will keep everyone posted.

[tabatha]

45. Thanks.

I develop under XP and supposedly will have to move to W7 sometime.

[CRF450]

37. I have it burned on a disk now. Gonna install!

[DainBramaged]

41. Enjoy bud!!

:toast:

[DainBramaged]

47. User account control is flexible, four settings instead of on/off

so that annoying little window can be left on if an application screws with Windows but not you. Good for normal folks with one or two computers.

[canetoad]

49. Thanky for that

Screenies very interesting and better looking that I had expected.

In the control panel there are lots of things like Sync Center and Parental controls. Do you know if all these things run as services and can be disabled?

[DainBramaged]

51. I have so much to test and try I haven't got ther yet but I promise I will.

:hug:

[Posteritatis]

54. Thanks for posting about this, I've been curious about how it turns out

Granted, for it to be worse than Vista it would have to somehow install a shaped charge behind the monitor via software.

(Of course, that would be kind of awesome if I wasn't in front of the screen.)

[DainBramaged]

55. You made me spit my tea on the rug. (I made sure not the keyboard)

This is not the spillproof one on the daily system.

[DainBramaged]

56. Time for bed my friends, I'll check back later this morning.

Be well, sweet dreams of winning the Lottery, World Peace, and health insurnce for all.

[DainBramaged]

57. It starts and shuts down faster than Vista, much like a simple XP install

Took less than 30 seconds to boot up first time this morning. BTW XP Pro used about 4.3 GB of space, so this installation is about 4 times larger. Again, this is the "Ultimate" version, not Basic.

[FedUpWithIt All]

67. I the beta a 64 bit OS?

Thanks

:hi:

[CRF450]

68. You can get it in either 32 or 64 bit.

[SpiralHawk]

58. My deepest sympathies to all you Windows users

or whatever you call yourselves.

I am so thankful that I never have to go through the contortions you all do - migrated to MAC way back in the early 90s. It has -- blessedly -- been smooth sailing ever since.

I do hope Microsoft and the PC universe will get it together someday, for it is painful to read of the suffering you all go through...

Good luck.

[DainBramaged]

59. Meh, your condolences are unwanted

even flowers attrct flies and vermin, not just shit. I hope you feel really big now, just so proud of yourself. :eyes:

[anigbrowl]

65. The Fundamental difference

[Cronus Protagonist]

71. lol

SO true. What are Linux users? Skydivers?

[anigbrowl]

72. well..

[Recursion]

70. Is that what Ubuntu is calling its next release?

I had no idea...

[Nickster]

60. Me too! I decided to give it a spin on one of my laptops. It really does appear to be much better

than Vista. I can't believe this laptop runs this well. Maybe they finally learned something.

[CRF450]

63. Hey DB, any updates? Its still workin great here.

I might wanna keep it all the way till August.

[DainBramaged]

64. I'm going to experiment with apps this week, and yes I am keeping it till Aughust

[DainBramaged]

76. I let it run all day doing a loop of Performance Test

no crash,was still running when I got home.

[ddeclue]

69. The Matrix Runs on Windows....

http://www.collegehumor.com/video:1886349

:eyes:

I didn't buy Vista.. I have NO plans to buy another Windows OS for the forseeable future..

WHY?

XP does everything I need it to do and there are a wide number of open source (FREE) O/S's that are more efficient and more innovative: Fedora (Linux), Ubuntu, Open Sun (Solaris), FreeBSD.

Microsoft is at a crossroads.

It will NOT be able to continue charging its customers outrageous fees for O/S and office productivity software anymore because the market will no longer tolerate it and users are beginning to consider Linux and other alternatives.

The only way I would be interested in the NextGen Windows O/S is if it cost me less than $80 for the top level version of it. I REFUSE to pay $399 for it or even $199 for it.

The only reason I purchased Office 2007 in 2008 was out of necessity to be compatible with someone in the Democratic party with whom I was working on a major database project. I have NO plans to upgrade my Office again for the next 5 to 10 years either and would have been perfectly happy using my Office 2000 software from 8 years ago otherwise.

My objective in the next year is to set up a few harddrives for evaluating Ubuntu, Fedora, Open Sun and FreeBSD and decide which of these I'm switching to. (Apple's OS/X is largely based off of FreeBSD)

Doug De Clue
Aerospace Engineer and Software Engineer
Orlando, FL

[Selatius]

73. I'm still running Windows 2000 on this machine. Of course, it's an old Dell Latitude p4 laptop. nt

[DainBramaged]

74. I bought brand new copies (retail) of Vista basic on Ebay for $55

[deaniac21]

77. Keep us posted!

Can't wait until it is fully tested!!!