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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:55 PM
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Former Drug czar warns of "invading hordes"
and in the process sees no irony in his remarks.


"A failure by the Mexican political system to curtail lawlessness and violence could result (in) a surge of millions of refugees crossing the U.S. border to escape ....

wait for it...

the domestic misery of violence, failed economic policy, poverty, hunger, joblessness, and the mindless cruelty and injustice of a criminal state,"

Former U.S. drug czar Gen. Barry McCaffrey , quoted in the January 08, 2009
El Paso Times


Meanwhile, countless Americans have left the USA for the same reason.

Talk about willful blindness.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 01:57 PM
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1. Meanwhile, the mayor of Ciudad Juarez has
called for an end to the drug war because it's tearing his city (and his country) apart.

As vicious as drug gangs are here, they're a hundred times worse in Mexico. Police and military are compromised as even they are split up by familial alliances to warring drug gangs.

Mexico needs to tell the DEA to go pound sand and just end it.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:06 PM
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3. The El Paso city council agrees. It passed a unanimous resolution...
on Tuesday calling for, among other things, a national debate on drug legalization. Then the mayor vetoed it Tuesday afternoon. Now an override vote is set for next Tuesday. This is stirring up the political debate in El Paso.

Similarly, the Arizona attorney general a coupld of weeks ago talked about legalizing weed as a response to the prohibition-related violence.

The Mexican president already wants to decriminalize possession--of all drugs.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:10 PM
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5. NM is finalizing the distribution of medical weed
and the drug war in Mexico is coming north through the border. We exported the meth labs to Mexico when we tightened up the sale of pseudoephedrine based cold remedies. Now Mexico is exporting the attendant violence back to us.

We have to end the drug war sooner or later. The massive violence we're seeing in Mexico is coming north, so let's hope it's sooner.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:17 PM
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6. So, ironic un-intended consequnces could be support for legalization.
Interesting.
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thunder rising Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:27 PM
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8. The factions would still be fighting since it's a US market they are fighting over.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 03:30 PM
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9. You sure about that?
Legalize it, make it available OTC at Walgreen's, drop the price drastically, at least at first, and nobody is going to buy drugs off the street cut with cement dust and gawd knows what else and of dubious quality so that each fix might be their last. They're going to want the pure stuff with the guaranteed dose.

That's how you put the drug lords out of business.
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rcrush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:03 PM
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2. Did they actually say Invading Hordes?
Cause i had a left for dead joke I was going to use.
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High Plains Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:06 PM
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4. McCaffrey is being hysterical.
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cbc5g Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 02:22 PM
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7. drug gangs are created by prohibition
Legalizing shuts them down for good. Why they can't learn from the lessons of alcohol prohibition, I do not know. There would be mexican alcohol cartels if alcohol were illegal today.
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machI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 03:35 PM
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10. The war on drugs -- Make criminals out of people who burn a naturally growing plant
Edited on Sat Jan-10-09 03:38 PM by machI
The war on drugs takes non criminals like college students, arrests them for possession of a plant that grows naturally where they live, and imprisons them.

They take up valuable incarceration space that would be better served housing armed robbers and child molesters, and proceeds to teach the pot smokers how to be real criminals.

There is big profit in the illegal drug trade
Street gangs cash in with illegal drugs
Street gangs kill people for territory and money
The Government continues the laws which make the illegal drug trade profitable
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-10-09 03:37 PM
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11. the yellow Peril!! Seen this movie before.
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