|
Printer-friendly format Email this thread to a friend Bookmark this thread |
This topic is archived. |
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:08 PM Original message |
In-State Tuition For Illegal Aliens? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
1. In many cases the student didn't immigrate on their own, they were brought by their parents. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:16 PM Response to Reply #1 |
2. I have to disagree. The 'children' are adults once they enter college age. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
3. Then just deport them. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #3 |
30. The odd thing is a lot of them will marry US citizens and through that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:56 PM Response to Reply #3 |
31. That's exactly what has happened to some kids in Arizona |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:03 PM Response to Reply #31 |
33. The people applauding it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:48 PM Response to Reply #3 |
43. If here illegally, then yes. Can they not go home and then apply |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Um, right. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #43 |
52. No they can't due to waiting lists and long lines |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:10 PM Response to Reply #52 |
54. They let barely anyone emigrate from Mexico here. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #43 |
60. "Home"? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:24 PM Response to Reply #60 |
82. They may not even speak fluent Spanish for god's sake |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:42 PM Response to Reply #60 |
88. "They can stay with all their cousins" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #60 |
180. "You are saying, I think, that they should be deported to their parents' home country, that they |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:20 PM Response to Reply #180 |
183. huh? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #183 |
190. Cute...read post #60 and stop trying to write circles around me |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:34 PM Response to Reply #190 |
192. the suggestion that immigrating and being deported are comparable is silly |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #192 |
195. Remember that woman Alvira Arellano who hold up in that Chicago church? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #195 |
198. interesting story, though I don't see how it supports your comparison |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:47 PM Response to Reply #198 |
200. At last report, he was still alive and kicking...What do you do for a living? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 04:52 PM Response to Reply #200 |
206. more non-sequitur |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #206 |
210. Oh, a white collar worker, I see...Well, no worries, then |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #210 |
214. ? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:29 PM Response to Reply #180 |
216. Yeah, that's totally an equivalent situation. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:52 AM Response to Reply #43 |
223. California is their home. These students graduated from |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 08:36 AM Response to Reply #223 |
228. OK. Return to their country of origin, apply for a student visa, and |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 09:59 AM Response to Reply #228 |
229. Have you ever met a student who was brought to the |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:19 PM Response to Reply #229 |
231. Is the all grown up baby here legally? The problem here is |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:39 PM Response to Reply #231 |
233. undocumented immigrants in neighboring states don't get in-state tuition because |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 03:19 PM Response to Reply #233 |
235. Just so I understand - an undocumented immigrant from another |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 03:48 PM Response to Reply #235 |
236. state residents are eligible for in-state tuition, yes |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Obamanaut (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 04:19 PM Response to Reply #236 |
237. "Students who were brought to this country as minor children of undocumented immigrants" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 06:51 PM Response to Reply #231 |
238. In other words, no, you have not met one of those devil-people. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:19 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Live within the rules? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Leftest (232 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 04:11 PM Response to Reply #4 |
203. "We're talking about people who are already here illegally..." |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
7. If you're saying "we should live within the rules," |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Warren Stupidity (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. They live in state. They happen to be undocumented. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:26 PM Response to Reply #2 |
10. GET DEM DAMN FURRINERS!!!! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:02 AM Response to Reply #10 |
137. Oh what the hell? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:32 AM Response to Reply #137 |
139. Not that simple |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Kittycat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:01 PM Response to Reply #139 |
215. She's not a child, if she's in college. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
anonymous171 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #2 |
12. I agree. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:31 PM Response to Reply #2 |
13. You don't have to be born in a particular state to get in-state tuition |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #2 |
27. The out of state issue sounds fair enough on the surface |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #2 |
65. out of state students don't get the discount because they don't live in the state |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
127. They should have an out-of-country tuition. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 07:24 PM Response to Reply #127 |
129. but illegal immigrants don't live out of the country |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 09:17 AM Response to Reply #129 |
143. Then lock them up and let them get free education like other prisoners. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:44 AM Response to Reply #143 |
147. so you think someone brought to the U.S. when they were a kid should be locked up? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:32 PM Response to Reply #147 |
152. Yer guldang right! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #152 |
187. Hellz yah! Lock 'em up wen dey still in da woomb!! Cheeper feedin' em! n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
lumberjack_jeff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:34 PM Response to Reply #2 |
86. My son's girlfriend was accepted at Arizona State. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:05 PM Response to Reply #86 |
93. If she'd been brought to Arizona from Mexico City when she was a small child |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:18 PM Response to Reply #2 |
99. But they can hardly besponsible for how they arrived in the country prior to adulthood |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:20 PM Response to Reply #99 |
101. Apparently so, as far as some people are concerned. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:33 AM Response to Reply #2 |
146. So do I. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:52 AM Response to Reply #146 |
148. The ones getting in-state tuition *are* working within the system |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
glowing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:22 PM Response to Reply #1 |
6. If the young woman is from CA, then she should get in-state tuition. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:23 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. They don't necessarily need to go "home" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #9 |
17. Out-of-state tuition can be up to 3 times as high |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:42 PM Response to Reply #17 |
22. Scholarship, student loans, part time job, Pell grants... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:48 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Most people who don't have to pay 3 fucking times as much. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
40. So availing yourself of resources is now considered "bootstraps shit"? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:37 PM Response to Reply #40 |
42. Deleted message |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:58 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. These people aren't "kids" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:03 PM Response to Reply #46 |
48. Rage for Order, I agree with you 100%. Well stated. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:08 PM Response to Reply #48 |
53. Jesus what are you people doing on this site? nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
ZombieHorde (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #53 |
91. You seem unable to argue your position. (I take this comment back) |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:59 PM Response to Reply #91 |
115. Well, when people say things that make them sound like Duncan Hunter |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:05 PM Response to Reply #46 |
50. Deleted message |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #50 |
57. You peaked at birth |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:51 PM Response to Reply #22 |
45. Oh and BTW, genius, undocumented immigrants don't qualify for many of those things. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:13 PM Response to Reply #45 |
56. So they should qualify for in-state tuition? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #56 |
58. In Kansas they have been here since they were babies, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:29 PM Response to Reply #58 |
59. If they've been there since they were babies... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #59 |
63. Well, you see she had the baby on the Mexican side of the border, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:40 PM Response to Reply #63 |
66. I'm sure that happens occasionally |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #66 |
68. But in that case the person who was born here is not in the scope of this discussion. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:51 PM Response to Reply #68 |
70. I agree with you |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 01:04 AM Response to Reply #70 |
226. That is not access. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 01:03 AM Response to Reply #66 |
225. Children of all ages are brought across the border by their parents. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:00 PM Response to Reply #59 |
72. I think you know the answer but are being argumentative on purpose |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:14 PM Response to Reply #72 |
118. He's on to the Lou Dobbs Anchor Baby refrain now. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:44 PM Response to Reply #56 |
67. well, if they live in state |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:23 PM Response to Reply #56 |
81. Yes. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:30 PM Response to Reply #56 |
106. State law is different from federal law... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:05 PM Response to Reply #22 |
75. $28K a year? If they could afford that on part time jobs, why go to college? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:22 PM Response to Reply #75 |
80. Only select schools are $28k a year |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:03 AM Response to Reply #22 |
140. They can't get loans or grants since they aren't citizens |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:58 AM Response to Reply #17 |
224. That's the idea. Who is going to pick our fruits and |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:06 PM Response to Reply #9 |
35. But they are residents of the state. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #9 |
55. You don't know much about this, do you? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rage for Order (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #55 |
62. Actually, they are eligible |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:58 PM Response to Reply #62 |
71. I have taught school for 30 years and have never known a kid not born here |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #1 |
15. I don't even think they should necessarily have to be "good" high school students. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Occam Bandage (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
5. I'm for it. In-state tuition is to encourage a more educated state workforce. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:27 PM Response to Original message |
11. This has already been done in Colorado. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #11 |
14. I just helped my daughter apply to colleges all over the east coast. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:35 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Not surprising. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:39 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. You mean like Notre Dame or Georgetown? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:41 PM Response to Reply #18 |
21. delete |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Zywiec (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #21 |
23. Of course that is not fine by me. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
donco6 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:49 PM Response to Reply #23 |
28. Sorry. I'll fix it. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:40 PM Response to Reply #14 |
20. It's pretty much everywhere now. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:47 PM Response to Reply #20 |
25. I imagine these are the same racists who opposed driver's licenses |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:50 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. Yep. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #29 |
32. I was just asking because our incoming VP and SOS |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #32 |
37. They all started out saying they supported them and then got in hot water over it. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #37 |
79. So Clinton and Biden aren't racists, they were just pandering to them? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:35 PM Response to Reply #79 |
87. Yes you can. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:48 PM Response to Reply #87 |
90. IMHO, if issues related to immigration policy continued to be handled |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:34 PM Response to Reply #32 |
108. No; Biden was opposed, Obama in favor. reread the transcript! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:31 PM Response to Reply #108 |
131. Yes, Biden (VP) was opposed and CLINTON (SOS) was opposed. Reread the post! n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
hughee99 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:40 PM Response to Original message |
19. Do they have to demonstrate that they've lived in CA |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #19 |
104. CA residents get in state tuition. There is no special line for undocumented students. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:06 PM Response to Reply #104 |
116. For a while there was an urban legend going around that undocumented students got free tuition |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:08 PM Response to Reply #116 |
117. Right. Oh, boy. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
petronius (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 01:29 AM Response to Reply #19 |
227. Basically, CA residency is determined by 1) residency in CA for at least a year, |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
treestar (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 01:46 PM Response to Original message |
24. If they can pay it, then certainly the college wants to take it |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:03 PM Response to Original message |
34. Do they apply for a student visa like other foreign students? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
tammywammy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Do students on a student visa pay out of state tuition? n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #34 |
38. It's not the same situation. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Rosa Luxemburg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:19 PM Response to Reply #38 |
39. the colleges aren't interested in immigration laws |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #39 |
41. They are now. Several states passed laws requiring them to check citizenship. nt |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 02:50 PM Response to Original message |
44. "If I could have paid in-state tuition at any college in the country... " STRAWMAN!! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:28 PM Response to Reply #44 |
105. Quite. It's not as if being illegal in AZ give you any advantage when applying to a CA college. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #105 |
113. Also, the definition of residency for tuition purposes is a state matter |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #105 |
157. Our law in KS was challenged |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:04 PM Response to Original message |
49. This is the law in Kansas and it's wonderful |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:07 PM Response to Reply #49 |
51. And those people are members of DU is even more puzzling to me. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:33 PM Response to Reply #51 |
61. Catburgler isn't a bit of stretch for |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:49 PM Response to Reply #61 |
69. The kids in Kansas are our kids |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:06 PM Response to Reply #69 |
76. I'm not sure if I follow who you mean by |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:12 PM Response to Reply #76 |
77. They live here. They were educated here. They work here. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:17 PM Response to Reply #69 |
78. It's ridiculous for you to claim that every illegal immigrant |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:32 PM Response to Reply #78 |
85. I am not claiming that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
83. Because that is the case for most of them. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:03 PM Response to Reply #83 |
92. Well |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:09 PM Response to Reply #92 |
95. That's what the Dream Act is about |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:14 PM Response to Reply #95 |
97. Now that makes sense |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:33 PM Response to Reply #95 |
107. I have a former student who is brilliant and works at Wendys |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 03:38 PM Response to Reply #51 |
64. It all started in the spring of 2006 |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:28 PM Response to Reply #51 |
84. A small wing of DU are xenophobic Ron Paul followers |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:07 PM Response to Reply #84 |
94. If you are in favor of |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #94 |
100. Kids who have lived there most of their lives going to college is a problem to you? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:26 PM Response to Reply #100 |
103. I have absolutely no problem with kids |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:18 PM Response to Reply #103 |
119. Why? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 07:10 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. Citizenship or legal residence |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 08:57 PM Response to Reply #128 |
130. The immigrant students being challenged in the lawsuit have met CA's residency requirements |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:07 PM Response to Reply #128 |
134. This is what you are writing...not me |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 04:53 AM Response to Reply #134 |
142. Nice try with taking the quote out of context |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
JANdad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:40 PM Response to Reply #142 |
153. So...what you are advocating if I get it correctly is this: |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:08 PM Response to Reply #153 |
156. I see we're at the last resort here |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Hippo_Tron (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:24 PM Response to Reply #94 |
102. Never said that if you were in favor of a comprehensive immigration policy you are a xenophobe |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:17 AM Response to Reply #94 |
141. How else can you explain not supporting a policy that allows kids to go to college affordably? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:21 AM Response to Reply #141 |
144. Yup you got me I'm a completely |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:09 PM Response to Reply #144 |
149. The law in my state says kids get in state tuition rates |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:26 PM Response to Reply #149 |
150. Don't even go there both of my parents |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:46 PM Response to Reply #150 |
154. You are ignorant of reality |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:58 PM Response to Reply #154 |
155. I explained this to you already |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:13 PM Response to Reply #155 |
159. So are you saying they should be deported? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:51 PM Response to Reply #159 |
170. If that's what the law requires |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:05 PM Response to Reply #170 |
173. I don't give a flying fart how hard your friend's parents struggled |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:15 PM Response to Reply #173 |
174. Most point exactly about you! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:30 PM Response to Reply #174 |
175. Now you are resting on your parent's laurels |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:54 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. You know shit about me and for your information I'm quite happy being |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:23 PM Response to Reply #176 |
185. I don't disagree with what you're saying about immigration. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
WolverineDG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:49 PM Response to Reply #49 |
124. because they're illeeeegal & they're breaking THE LAW!!!111 |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:02 PM Response to Original message |
73. You don't know what you're talking about. UCLA and other California schools are *cheap* |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:04 PM Response to Original message |
74. What a crock. I hope the court slaps the whiners down |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 04:46 PM Response to Reply #74 |
89. Same here. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
juno jones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:32 PM Response to Reply #89 |
121. I moved from IL to CA in '84 |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:13 PM Response to Original message |
96. To the people who are saying "they should go back to their native country and apply for a visa" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:16 PM Response to Original message |
98. Damn that smart, hardworking Cora Orta! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
anigbrowl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:37 PM Response to Original message |
109. I am in favor of the status quo, ie I hope this lawsuit fails |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
williesgirl (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:44 PM Response to Original message |
110. This is just plain wrong. Why should our own citizens pay more than folks who's parents broke the |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:52 PM Response to Reply #110 |
111. Why punish the children for what the parents did? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:57 PM Response to Reply #111 |
114. It's Not What the Parents Did |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:21 PM Response to Reply #114 |
135. "putting profits over the law" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Orangepeel (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 04:08 PM Response to Reply #114 |
202. public universities do not make profits n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 07:02 PM Response to Reply #202 |
218. Nonetheless They Compete |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
MH1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:30 PM Response to Reply #110 |
120. "our own citizens" don't have to pay more. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:44 PM Response to Reply #120 |
122. If whiny Anglo kids can't get in-state tuition rates wherever they want to go to school |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:47 PM Response to Reply #110 |
123. Maybe if we don't keep blowing up their democracies they won't want to come here |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:50 PM Response to Reply #110 |
125. why should someone from Illinois get in-state tuition at a California school? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:39 PM Response to Reply #125 |
133. Cause they are full blooded Mericans!! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 10:46 PM Response to Reply #133 |
136. seems to be the sentiment |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 09:33 PM Response to Reply #110 |
132. So do you also favor taking this tuition rate away from the children of prison inmates? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:15 AM Response to Reply #110 |
138. I read your post again and I see what you're saying |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:14 PM Response to Reply #138 |
160. Again an 18 year old is |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:17 PM Response to Reply #160 |
161. So? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:20 PM Response to Reply #161 |
162. You have no proof of this |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:29 PM Response to Reply #162 |
165. It is a proven fact |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:37 PM Response to Reply #165 |
168. Again you have stated repeatedly that |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:52 PM Response to Reply #168 |
171. I told you to read the fucking article. I don't know what else to tell you. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:21 PM Response to Reply #160 |
163. A full-grown adult? Not in the eyes of the law... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:28 PM Response to Reply #163 |
164. So you are arguing that 18 year olds are not |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:34 PM Response to Reply #164 |
167. I just gave you a bunch of examples where they are NOT considered adults under the law |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:46 PM Response to Reply #167 |
169. Yea renting a car |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:01 PM Response to Reply #169 |
172. You're confusing a bunch of things. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 02:59 PM Response to Reply #172 |
177. Not to mention that none of that has anything to do with the issue in the OP |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:15 PM Response to Reply #177 |
179. oh, I absolutely agree |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
babythunder (342 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:12 PM Response to Reply #172 |
178. Most of the kids I met |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:11 PM Response to Reply #178 |
230. they're still kids |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:30 PM Response to Reply #160 |
166. they weren't adults when they were brought to the country |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 05:56 PM Response to Original message |
112. This Is Just About As Cynical As It Gets For An Institution |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
depakid (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Jan-10-09 06:50 PM Response to Original message |
126. That's right- kick people out of school! |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Deja Q (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 11:27 AM Response to Original message |
145. GOOD GRIEF!! Californians can't pay for their own* and they want to help people doing ILLEGAL ACTS? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 12:30 PM Response to Reply #145 |
151. By California law, those kids are entitled to in-state tuition |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 01:11 PM Response to Reply #145 |
158. "Those vermin don't give a shit about either country" |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:16 PM Response to Original message |
181. Illegal immigrants are residents. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:18 PM Response to Reply #181 |
182. And legal immigrants are chopped liver? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:22 PM Response to Reply #182 |
184. that's a nice illogical response |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:26 PM Response to Reply #182 |
188. What are undocumented residents getting that documented residents don't get? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:27 PM Response to Reply #188 |
189. Alot ain't payin' taxes. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:35 PM Response to Reply #189 |
193. Only if they work under the table. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
greguganus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #193 |
197. Biggest reason around here to hire 'em is under table work. But I blame the employer, not the hungry |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:45 PM Response to Reply #193 |
199. Are you sure about the "many" part? And why shouldn't they pay for the things they use? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 04:13 PM Response to Reply #199 |
204. Certainly they should pay for services they use |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 04:18 PM Response to Reply #204 |
205. As I said earlier, there are those who say that undocumenteds HAVE been getting social services |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:02 PM Response to Reply #205 |
208. Okay, this is getting into urban legend territory. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Iggo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:03 AM Response to Reply #205 |
220. There are those who say... |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:19 PM Response to Reply #189 |
211. And they have to be paying taxes to get in state tuition rates in my state |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:36 PM Response to Reply #188 |
194. Um...the subject of this thread, for one? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:42 PM Response to Reply #194 |
196. What do you mean? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
veganbeatnik (45 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:52 PM Response to Reply #196 |
201. You really are confused? Or is this just a ploy to confuse ME? |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:00 PM Response to Reply #201 |
207. you're apparently the confused one, veganbeatnik |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:08 PM Response to Reply #207 |
209. S/he probably didn't even read the article in the OP |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
fishwax (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:32 PM Response to Reply #209 |
213. yep--examining the facts would interfere with the outrage |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
NashVegas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 06:52 PM Response to Reply #207 |
217. The Opportunity to Study Without the Requirement of a Visa |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 07:56 PM Response to Reply #217 |
219. That's not the issue in the OP |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:38 AM Response to Reply #201 |
221. BTW, children of undocumented residents who are born on U.S. soil are citizens |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
proud2BlibKansan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 05:23 PM Response to Reply #194 |
212. One more time for the peanut gallery |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
mrreowwr_kittty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:32 PM Response to Reply #182 |
191. Are legal immigrants unable to attend college in CA at in-state tuition rates |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Trillo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Jan-11-09 03:23 PM Response to Original message |
186. This is an interesting discussion, it reminds me of free trade versus fair trade. n/t |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
roody (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:50 AM Response to Original message |
222. Ms. Orta is a Californian, hence in-state tuition. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
HiFructosePronSyrup (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 12:23 PM Response to Original message |
232. Meh. |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
Mean_Barbie (46 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Jan-12-09 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
234. Insane legal argument ..... must be written by a fundi-republitard lawyer |
Printer Friendly | Permalink | | Top |
DU AdBot (1000+ posts) | Thu May 02nd 2024, 05:02 PM Response to Original message |
Advertisements [?] |
Top |
Home » Discuss » Archives » General Discussion (1/22-2007 thru 12/14/2010) |
Powered by DCForum+ Version 1.1 Copyright 1997-2002 DCScripts.com
Software has been extensively modified by the DU administrators
Important Notices: By participating on this discussion board, visitors agree to abide by the rules outlined on our Rules page. Messages posted on the Democratic Underground Discussion Forums are the opinions of the individuals who post them, and do not necessarily represent the opinions of Democratic Underground, LLC.
Home | Discussion Forums | Journals | Store | Donate
About DU | Contact Us | Privacy Policy
Got a message for Democratic Underground? Click here to send us a message.
© 2001 - 2011 Democratic Underground, LLC