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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:40 PM
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Police: Mother helped husband rape their daughter
Clayton County police said a Riverdale mother moved out of her marital bed so her husband could sexually assault their daughter there, plied the girl with vodka and ordered her to comply with continued rape and molestation.

The 33-year-old woman is charged with rape, statutory rape, incest, aggravated child molestation, sodomy, enticing a child for indecent purposes and furnishing alcohol to a minor. She is being held without bond in the Clayton County Jail.

Her estranged husband faces the same charges and is being sought by police, police spokeswoman Lt. Rebecca Brown said. Brown said the couple separated after reportedly confessing the crimes to Atlanta police. The whereabouts of the 32-year-old man are unknown.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution is withholding the names of the parents to protect the identity of the daughter.

Warrants allege the mother did nothing to stop the assaults on her daughter, telling her to “just lay there and do it,” when the girl refused to have sex with her father.

The warrants said the father punished the girl to make her comply, using his “parental authority to make the victim stand upright in the middle of the room until 3 a.m. when the victim grew tired and relented.”

The alleged sexual assaults happened in Riverdale from March-August 2007, according to Magistrate Court warrants. A police report shows the incidents also happened while the family lived in Atlanta but is unclear whether the couple was charged there.

http://www.ajc.com/metro/content/metro/clayton/stories/2009/01/07/clayton_mother_father_rape.html?cxntlid=homepage_tab_newstab&imw=Y
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 12:42 PM
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1. sick, sick , sick. may they both rot in prison, and may the child
find a loving home and a lot of help.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:29 PM
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3. I'm with you
I just simply can't imagine........
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stop the bleeding Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:09 PM
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2. Gawd the parents are young, wonder how old the victim is? Nothing
Surprises me anymore.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:34 PM
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4. I have to wonder what threats
the wife was under. Nobody ups and volunteers their child for that sort of treatment unless they're under some mind-bending duress themselves. QED, the husband is a monster. If he'd abuse his own child, no doubt his wife was fair game for torture. By no means am I excusing any of it; some folks aren't made to fight and some aren't able to. G'dde only knows what threats he made up to and including killing the both of them in the most horrible of manners if they ever told or tried to get help.

Abusers and torturers are some incredibly, unthinkably sick puppies, able to twist minds where nobody'd think they'd go. Without saying, they all need some serious, serious long-term help. The dude needs his nads cut off.

With a rusty spoon.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:37 PM
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5. I wondered about that, too.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:40 PM
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6. That's the first thing I thought of, too
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:48 PM
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7. that will doubtless be the wife's legal defense
and it may work. Whether it's actually true, color me skeptical. Women can be sick fucks too, and sick fucks have a way of ending up with one another. Even if she was being abused and threatened, I simply don't care. You protect your kid at all costs, up to and including the forfeit of your own life, because that's what a real parent does. My sympathy goes to the child in this case. The "mother" gets no pass from me.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:00 PM
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8. You are right. There is NO defense for this. The mother should have
done something. She should have called the cops.
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CatWoman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 02:21 PM
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9. AGREED
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:55 PM
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16. She might not have had the time or ability to dial 911
If she cared anything for her daughter, she would have found another way to protect her from harm.
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Raine1967 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:53 PM
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30. This has been ongoing...
The alleged sexual assaults happened in Riverdale from March-August 2007, according to Magistrate Court warrants. A police report shows the incidents also happened while the family lived in Atlanta but is unclear whether the couple was charged there.

As much as I do have sympathy for abused women, I know and have lived thru the cycles of abuse... somewhere there was time to call 911. I am sorry if the mother was abused by this man, and it appears as tho she was... but, Being abused is not a good enough reason to abuse a child. (and I KNOW that no one is saying that here -- it is a fine line to defend abused woman and to understand that some woman are actually abusers as well. The latter here seems to be the case based up this article.)

She is equally responsible for this atrocity.

I want to know more about this story, but the article goes into great length about why the Mother was charged as well, I believe it was to explain that even tho she was abused, it doesn't make what she did any less illegal in the eyes of the law.

She didn't separate from him until AFTER they were found out... and now he is missing.
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:16 PM
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10. "Even if she was being abused and threatened, I simply don't care"
Meant in a truly sincere way: you need to educate yourself about the dymanics of abusive relationships.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:01 PM
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19. Exactly
Having been at the wrong end of a relationship which put me in the ER twice before I found a way out, it isn't as easy as it sounds. It's real damn easy to sit back in one's safe home, judge, and say, "oh, I know I'd do such and such". Unless you're in it, you DON'T know what you would, could, or might do. Unless you've ever been in it, you don't know the least bit about what it's like.

I'm not saying I know that the woman might not have been a sicko, too. But somehow I doubt it.

It's Gitmo, only worse because there's almost no way out. You're smothering and drowning in fear, pain, an unspeakable, unnameable paralysis. I can't imagine what that woman was going through, knowing that not only was she helpless herself, she was unable to help her daughter -- and she dared not speak of what was going on. There's no doubt in my mind that if he was capable of raping that child, he was capable of killing them both to cover it up. There's no doubt in my mind he was willing to use that as a daily, if not moment-by-moment threat, backed up with physical pain, to keep them in line.

If that man was willing to terrorize and torture that child to get what he wanted (making her stand upright is the only thing they admitted to in the article, but you know it got worse), then it was more than likely he was willing to torture and terrorize his wife into submitting to his vile plans as well. It seems to be a DU pastime to pass a quick judgment on other folks' lives, especially when folks haven't lived through terror, trauma, bullying, the threat of imminent death, physical pain, and torture.

Physical pain and torture do awful things to one's psyche, one's self-esteem, one's ability to fight back, one's judgment, one's ability even to take care of one's self, let alone the life of another human being. I know a little something about living in that kind of terror.

Once you get the abusers out of the house, a restraining order doesn't mean shit, either. When you have seconds to live, remember: the cops are only minutes away.

You sleep with a gun by your side with one eye open, having nightmares for months, the rest of y'all so quick to judge, then you tell me "oh, I'd've done this or I'd've done that". You jump at shadows, watch your rear-view, take different routes home from work, check the yard, change the locks multiple times... It's not that fucking easy to get out of and it's not that easy to get over. Unless you have lived in and experienced that bone-gnawing, brain-chewing, months-on-end terror, don't tell me how easy it is to "just dial 911" or "just tell someone" or "just walk away".

It ain't.

Terror does that to a person.

That child and that woman both are going to be screwed up and scarred for the rest of their lives. It will take years of counseling before they'll even be able to breathe, sleep, or think without mentally walking on eggshells.

I'll say it again: That nasty bastard needs to have his nads removed.

With a rusty spoon.

Slllooooooooly.
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derby378 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:56 PM
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25. Maybe the key is to have that gun handy BEFORE THE TERROR STARTS
There was a woman fleeing an abusive boyfriend in Fort Worth a year or two ago. He tracked her down, brandished a gun, and threatened to kill her entire family unless she allowed him to kidnap her. She didn't have a gun.

So he forced her into his truck, tied her up, drove her to a condemned, abandoned house in the wrong part of town, and kept her there for several days, tied up and shackled all the time. During that time, he raped her, waterboarded her, burned her back with a blowtorch, and "doctored" her burns by splashing drain cleaner on them. The only reason she's alive today is that she somehow managed to squirm out of her ropes and limp away from that chamber of horrors.

The monster who did this to her is now serving a life sentence. But that poor woman's gonna be fucked up for life.

If she was carrying a gun and was well-trained in how to use it to keep away these soulless freaks, she wouldn't be dealing with a lifetime of medical bills, nightmares, and counseling.

An ounce of prevention is still worth a pound of cure.
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HillWilliam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:20 PM
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27. Sometimes you don't know
There are some charming snakes in this world. There are some freaks you wouldn't have a gun around if you thought for a second they might be able to get to it first.

It's been years and years later, now, and I've been blessed to have the sweetest, most loyal and wonderful man in my life. He'd been through some of the same hell I had. We both agree, damn any man who'd raise a hand to either one of us again. They'd have two of us to worry about. We're older, wiser, have our heads together and we're not so easy to intimidate. Once you've been through it and come out the other side, you get that way, not so easy to fool again.

These days I say, even if I'm not allowed to marry, I'm still allowed to carry. I do. A CCH and training are worth the investment in time, effort, money, and peace of mind.
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:24 PM
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28. A jury would not convict her for plunging a kitchen knife into the pricks back while he was raping
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 06:25 PM by cags
her daughter...

But she let this go on for months...MONTHS!!! It wasn't one time and she had no other options!!!

She deserves to rot in jail.

I know because I have a sister who is rotting in jail where she belongs. The things her children went through because of her negligence would kill your soul just to hear about it.


I have no sympathy for people who watch while children are being tortured.

Don't tell there was nothing she could have done over all that time, because that is bullshit
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greenbriar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:56 PM
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31. this
god people make me sick
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:56 PM
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32. I feel the same exact way. n/t
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seabeyond Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:19 PM
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11. i am seeing more and more women without that nurturing that you are referring to
that protect their child.

i am not giving this woman an out on the assumption that no motehr would do that. to many mothers are doing too many things.... all on their own
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cags Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:46 PM
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14. She may have been a sick f*ck too for all you know... She gets no benefit of the doubt from me
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aikoaiko Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:56 PM
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17. The mother might have been under duress or she might have been as malicious as the father.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 04:11 PM by aikoaiko
You say, "Nobody ups and volunteers their child for that sort of treatment unless they're under some mind-bending duress themselves.", but you'd be surprised how many mothers turn their daughters and sons out for sex willingly.

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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:52 PM
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22. You don't know that she wasn't willingly complicit.
I would certainly hope not.
But we quite simply don't know.
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snooper2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:00 PM
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26. Women can be just as sick and twisted as men....
Doesn't happen nearly as often- but it does happen...
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:25 PM
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34. Ridiculous Assumption.
Since the husband isn't even available for comments/side of story right now and the mother is in custody and has ADMITTED to doing these things, while also not yet rescinding any of it or giving any hint whatsoever of being under his influence via threat; though she has the PERFECT opportunity right now to do so, makes it 99.9% likely she was as sick a fuck as her husband.
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ismnotwasm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:37 PM
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12. Assholes
I know several adult women who were pimped out by their mothers. One was performing sex acts with her mother at the age of eight. That topic become larger considering the monetary value of young girls in the sex industry, and who it is that find prostitution the easier or only, way to make a living.


I don't have a civilized past and I'm not going to pretend I do.


This is rape, whether that woman was in her right mind or not, coerced or not, my concern at the moment is that little girl understands this wasn't her fault, that she gets the type of help she needs, and that she knows she is not alone. I hope she gets shielded by those who get a vicarious titillation out of these kind of stories. If the woman was intimitated or abused until this bullshit seemed like a good idea I hope it comes out in trial.

We'd all like to think this type of thing is more uncommon than it is, but ask any forensic nurse what happens when sex is about power and domination.

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Liberal_in_LA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:39 PM
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13. awful story. Glad the daughter is safe from these sick people
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slackmaster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 03:51 PM
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15. Calling them animals would be an insult to animals
They're sick and evil.
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Soylent Brice Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 04:20 PM
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18. the world we live in
fuct. up.


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Danger Mouse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:48 PM
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20. In cases like this, I would support the death penalty. The slow, very painful death penalty.
What absolute human refuse.
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Yukari Yakumo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:51 PM
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21. Just wait 'til her cellmates get ahold of her...
They'll make sure she'll look like she went through 100 rounds with Holyfield and Tyson.
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BlooInBloo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:52 PM
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23. Oh fer fuck's sake. Poor kid. Sigh.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 05:54 PM
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24. Absolutely awful. But why is the mother made the worse criminal between the two?
The dad is the one who raped her. She needs to rot in jail as well, but she acted as an accessory to his crime.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 06:37 PM
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29. because moms are suppose to protect their young
Stories of abusive moms are always more jarring due to our expectations of them as nurturers. I can't think of a culture where this isn't the case.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:58 PM
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36. Dads aren't supposed to protect their young?
This article goes on and on about the mom, and is in fact written around the mom, and the dad is mentioned very little in comparison. Meanwhile, HE is the one who raped her.
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Fleshdancer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:12 PM
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38. of course they are
but because men tend to be more violent, it's just not as shocking. Obviously both these people are disgusting, but the writer of the article focused on what makes this case of abuse a bit more "unique".
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Ex Lurker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:19 PM
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39. They're both criminals. But assuming the sperm donor is ever caught
he'll rot in jail. That's already a foregone conclusion. The female of the pair has a good chance of getting off, or at least a lesser sentence, with a slick lawyer playing the victim card.
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:49 AM
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41. Accomplice liability. eom
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:23 PM
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33. I Think What The Mother Did Was Even Worse, But I Hope They Both Suffer Immeasurably.
I find the mother even more at fault because not only was she an enabler and equally guilty as he was for facilitating the action, but she was also the ONLY person of trust the daughter had to be able to save her from the abusive situation. Instead of being salvation, she was a willing partner in the crime. It's times like this I hope with all my might that there's truly a hell so that both those pieces of garbage could rot in it for eternity.
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 08:00 PM
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37. The mother aiding and abetting rape is worse than the father raping?
Her father should have been equally a person she could trust. Obviously neither was. Why wouldn't we expect the father to be someone the girl could trust if we expect that of the mother?
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Brooklyns_Finest Donating Member (747 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 07:29 PM
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35. Damn
That young girl is going to be messed up. The father is an animal that needs to be put down. The mother is also and animal that needs to be put down. Abuse or not, anyone who would let their child face such TERROR does not deserve to live. Kids are not asked to be brought in to this world. If one parent is being abusive it is the responsibility of the other parent to protect the child.

Children always come first.
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mitchum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 11:45 PM
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40. Both the dam and sire (because they are not parents) are monsters
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varkam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-09-09 12:50 AM
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42. Sigh.
It never ceases to amaze me the things that we people do to one another.
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