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Shardik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:48 PM
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DEMOCRATIC UNDERGROUND... WTF???
We have worked so hard for the last eight years. We elected the unelectable. We pushed the cry for change throughout the country.

We have been the underground. We have been a pushing force and now we see these odd appointments?

Yes. Obama will be better than Bush. Torquemada would be better than Bush. But this isn't what we fought for.

I still have great faith in Barack.

But DU? Yes, we were essentially "underground" for the last eight years but geez, now that our man has won do we still need to stay beneath the ground?

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provis99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:50 PM
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1. I don't recall Obama ever claiming to be our guy
He spent his whole campaign proclaiming how non-partisan he was going to be, and what a centrist he would be; so why is anyone surprised now?
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:52 PM
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2. That would be my question, precisely.
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mmonk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Jan-06-09 11:55 PM
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3. I guess one has to determine the meaning of underground.
It doesn't have a real establishment ring to it.
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nevergiveup Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:04 AM
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4. Obama is doing fine
We can knit pick his appointments until we drive ourselves totally bat-shit crazy but when it gets down to the nitty gritty it will be mostly about him. The guy has the brains, temperament, political wisdom and vision to do fine if we have a little patience. In a few days he will be inheriting a country in an economic melt-down. I can't think of anyone at the moment who I would rather have in charge.
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Pithlet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:58 AM
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11. I'm hoping it will settle down some after the inauguration.
Yeah, maybe wishful thinking. But, I think some of the reactions at some of the picks have been just a little nuts. I mean, when has anyone ever cared so much about the frigging Surgeon General? Yes, Sanjay Gupta is a little bit of a WTF pick. I don't care for the guy. But it's just the friggin Surgeon General. He doesn't even make policy. And maybe the fact that he's such a shill might mean he'll be very good at shilling Obama's policy? That's what his job is supposed to be, after all. The Surgeon General is basically just the shiller. So, who knows, maybe it will turn out to be a good thing. And some of his other picks have been downright fantastic. Warren I objected strongly to but once the inauguration is over, I hope that little stunt will be relegated to the dustbin of history.
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WilliamPitt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:08 AM
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5. Sellout.
:P

Welcome to the Happy Place. :eyes:
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 12:57 AM
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6. We work with what we have, sadly
Not a whole lot of truly progressive dems anywhere in the country. We'll start with what we have, and hopefully it'll catch momentum.
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:02 AM
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7. Good luck with that. I think the country has moved beyond the extremes
of both parties, because both extremes seem to have more than their fair share of nutcases.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:55 AM
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10. God, I remember those bleak years in the grip of the extreme left!
Brrrr! Just the memory chills me to the... Oh. That's not a memory, that's a total hallucination.

Could you try again with a talking point that makes sense?
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Tarheel_Dem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:30 AM
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13. Thanks, you made my point.
;-)
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specimenfred1984 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:04 AM
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8. How about "reach across the racist sellout whore isle Underground"?
We can all praise Dr. Gupta 24/7 and offer war criminals redemption every day!
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defendandprotect Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 01:50 AM
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9. Well ...
First, there is an extensive world beyond DU ---

many wanted change ...

and those many are wondering if we're getting hit with "bait and switch" ..

We wanted DLC out -- we got DLC in --

But we'll keep hoping---!!!
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Jan-08-09 01:56 AM
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14. If anyone is still wondering, they really should stop.
Edited on Thu Jan-08-09 01:57 AM by TheWatcher
We were still sold a bill of goods.

They just made the package prettier and glossier this time around.

Hey, at least they are letting us have the ILLUSION of change.

Now most will be able to just feel good and go along with it.

Most.

Some of us, not so much.
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LaPera Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Jan-07-09 03:03 AM
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12. WTF?
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