Went to local Borders Bookstore to use my gift card when in the front entrance

[muntrv]

I see a stack of Coultergeist's latest crap. Even worse, I heard 2 different customers saying "I like her. She's funny." :grr:

[nadinbrzezinski]

1. Remember the store does not decide on what to put on entrance

the companies do, they pay a pretty penny for that space

So don't blame the store

Regnery paid a pretty penny for that

As to the readers... well... there are idiots all the time

[Hawkeye-X]

4. I'd take all of Annthrax's books, turned inside out, hidden in some obscure bookshelf

that no-one ever looks or care about.

Hawkeye-X

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

9. All that does is make more work for some underpaid employee who probably agrees with you

I've worked a lot of retail and it's really not fair to the employees.

[Realityhack]

16. More work could mean they still have a job.

Just saying.

[HarukaTheTrophyWife]

29. It's quite apparent you never worked retail or retail management

[Realityhack]

30. Actually I have.

And if the customers never made a mess that would be at least one less person on staff.

[HughBeaumont]

6. Ah, Regnery . . . A mere hair's length from National Alliance.

Ever read some of their ridiculous revisionist crap? Most of it revolves around doctoring history to make champions and pioneers out of the ownership class. It's like Howard Zinn in reverse . . . you know, except for the whole "truth" thing.

[nadinbrzezinski]

21. Regnery is actually closer to something else and more scary

But that is a whole different matter

Also remember that these idiots sold a bunch of these books to wholesalers that will gladly give them at Cons... making it go up to number one

which it would never get to on its own "merits."

[Liberal_in_LA]

2. ugh.

[LostinVA]

3. Not the employees' fault -- publishers pay space and stores HAVE to us the planograms

For displays, bullnoses, endcaps, etc.

[Pab Sungenis]

7. Then we don't go back, and let them know why.

Borders is teetering on the edge of bankruptcy right now. Withholding our money from them might push them over the edge.

[blue_onyx]

13. I hope that doesn't happen

Borders is a Michigan based company and we can't afford the job loses. I don't see the problem in them selling her book. Coulter is an idiot and definitely not funny but people can a book by Obama, Clinton, or any other liberal authors there too.

[Realityhack]

15. I am not sure they are so mad about the selling as much as the promoting.

Choosing to accept her money for prominent placement is helping her spread hate.

[blue_onyx]

17. As long as Borders treats liberal authors the same as conservative ones

I don't see a problem. I bet when Obama's last book was first released, it probably had a prominent position in stores. I doubt the prominent placement would help spread Coulter's hate much. It's probably the same group people who buy each of her books.

[BreweryYardRat]

27. It did.

Believe me, since the coffee's better than Starbucks, I spend quite a bit of time there.

[Realityhack]

31. If it didn't help spread the hate they would not pay for the position.

The marketers have a very good idea of how many more copies they can sell with that placement.

[nadinbrzezinski]

22. And that would be stupid

after all it is NOT just Regnery that buys all that crap

Wizards of the Coast does that for DnD books

Simon and Shusters does it for YOUR favored books

So how many people do you want to see loose jobs because Regnery is keeping them employed right now?

Unfrigging unbelievable

I like Regnery as far as I can throw them... which is not that far any longer, but I am not going to silence them, or stop visiting a bookstore just because they happen to carry books I don't agree with

[ColbertWatcher]

8. The employees do, but the customers don't.

I'm not saying that anyone should move her books elsewhere.

I'm just saying I've heard of other people having done that previously to someone else's books at some point in the past.

[Realityhack]

14. no not the employees fault. But the businesses.

Borders corporate is still fully responsible.
Nothing wrong with visiting a different book vendor because you don't like the crap being promoted.

[nadinbrzezinski]

23. So tell you what, lets have borders NOT accept this from ANY publisher

will that make you happier

Or is this speech thing only acceptable when it is YOUR side getting it?

By the way... did you notice the same kind of placement when Krugman's book came out?

How about Obama's

Oh boy when Clinton's (both) came out same shit different book publisher

Unfrigging unbelievable

[Realityhack]

32. Obama wrote a book of hate speech?

Borders is going to promote something with that space. I would prefer if they did not accept payment for the space. However, wither they do or not they are promoting that speech. Putting the book in the normal spot and not in a more prominent location isn't stopping their free speech. It is just not endorsing it.

Let's say there is a racist book about how whites are superior. It isn't that I want Borders not to carry the book. But if they accept money to promote it in the best spot in the store I have to consider who they are choosing to promote as a statement of the companies values. At best the company is saying they will promote anything given the right amount of money.

[nadinbrzezinski]

33. As much as I hate Regnery Press

UNTIL they are declared a racist press and kept out of mainstream publishing they have the RIGHT to buy the space, and BORDERS has the right to sell it to them... whether you agree with it or not.

And by the way, Krugman's book is full of hate speech when you speak to the loony right... yes, they use the EXACT same language you are using about Mrs. Coulter.

Yes, she is a hate momger, from my POV, but I will defend her right to write that crap and for Borders to accept the money till the day I die

Now if you would like to live in a country that bans certain speech... I have a list of candidates you could move to... and there are plenty still around the world that do that.

And the speech that makes you highly uncomfortable is particularly the speech that needs to be protected, ON EITHER SIDE of the political divide

If you cannot get this, then there is a problem and there are many fellow travellers of yours (on both sides of the political divide) that don't get this either.

[Realityhack]

34. And I proposed outlawing such a sale when?

Yes Borders has a right to sell that space. NOBODY has a 'right' to purchase it. Borders can put whatever requirements they want on it such as saying that Coulters book is full of hate and they will not promote it.

I NEVER suggested banning ANY speech. Your statements to that effect are complete straw men and you should be ashamed of your intellectual dishonesty.

Borders has a right to sell that space, just like Fox news has a right to have idiots on who spew hate. However I have a right not to support Fox (ie. not watch, not advertise there, boycott advertisers) and I have every right to not shop at Borders either.
Borders also has the right to say they won't accept a particular book for that space because they think it is racist, hate filled, not their style, etc. And I have a right to reward such behavior.

[nadinbrzezinski]

37. Then don't go and buy stuff at borders

that includes the LATEST book from your favorite author

Umlike FOX news they take marketing dollars from EVERYBODY

And I personally want to KEEP THEM IN BUSINESS... even if at times they buy marketing from people that I don't agree with

But I am adult about it. I realize that they will BUY that marekting from Wizards, from Regnery, from whomever will keep the bills paid

[liberalmuse]

5. I hope you've had your rabies shots.

God, maybe I take things a little too seriously, but that "woman" is anything but "funny". She's funny like Hitler's death camps, gas chambers and ovens were "funny".

[slampoet]

10. In five months those books will be Dumped at the Dollar Store. ORielly and limbughs latest are there

[Cid_B]

20. Didn't Oreillys latest make #2 on the NYT bestseller list?

nt

[slampoet]

35. so did L Ron Hubbard ONLY because of the houses that buy discount copies and then later dump them at

the dollar stores. The same with Ayn Rand and all the other conservative authors. The remainder business is a complete scam that the NYT has not called into check and needs to.

[Cid_B]

39. Interesting..

Do you have a link or something to point to for his latest book that talks about this?

[peacetalksforall]

11. Keep this in mind. Her book will be in thrift shops within a few weeks and then eventually

pulped. The Smithsonian is not going to buy her books for their collections. She is ridiculed. She wasted a law degree. She has no modesty. She has no pride. She has an enormous need for attention. She lies and distorts. She is a laughting stock. She is a Sharon Stone wannabe.

And the Republican Party has no class, either. She's was already done as a respectable person before she picked up her pen again.

It's OK to dismiss her.

[Deja Q]

12. You sure it wasn't the start of a four syllable phrase, ending with "-lookin'"?

[SayitAintSo]

18. You need to engage in "Book Burying" in those instances...

It's a passive aggressive protest tactic. Just casually pick up some good dem books and cover her up as you browse inconspicuously. Turn her upside. Take a few of her books and place them in areas like fiction, or with books on communicable disease, prostitution, witches and demonic themes etc. You get the idea...

[CAG]

19. Don't hide the books, just put up a sign reading "Dips#$t zone"

[specimenfred1984]

24. Sick, that made me Gupta-up my entire dinner

Big chunks of hot steaming Coulter are all over my keyboard now.

[bushmeister0]

25. Too little, too late, for them. I worked there for six and a half years, they're whores.

Borders on the verge of being delisted from the NYSE:

" . . . Expect to see an announcement of a delisting notice issued to Borders in January. Coupled with potentially poor 4th quarter results and the future of Borders Books is certainly murky. More and more people, including Borders employees, will be asking: ‘Is Borders going out of business?'"

http://usedbooksblog.com/blog/borders-books-delisted-from-nyse/

Hey Joe G, I hope you got your portfolio very diversified! Much love, Mr. Borders Answer Man! They moved the cheese, again!

[Hekate]

26. The bookstores can't help it for the most part, but you can do a little creative stacking sometimes

Costco has these big tables with piles of books and sometimes the top book is different than the rest of the stack because someone was reading it and put it back... like so... Why look! Annthrax's face is covered up with 1492!

Can't do that with the displays in the front of the store though.

Hekate

[BreweryYardRat]

28. You know, people throwing hissy fits and suggesting boycotts over this need to sit down and THINK.

(Post may not be easy to understand, because it's three in the morning, I ran out of two meds yesterday, and I can't find my damn prescriptions to go get 'em refilled.)

Bookstores are a business. They put whatever they think will sell the most copies right up front. I don't like that they do it for Coulter, but they did it for Obama too.

You want them to stop stocking Coulter's books? Then convince people to stop buying her crap, don't boycott the store. That won't teach them anything, because you'll never purchase a copy of her crap in any case, and it denies the local store the profits from your ACTUAL purchases that keep its employees at their jobs. A few hundred people scattered all over the country going "Ooh, I'm going to boycott Borders because they sell a book I don't like," isn't going to draw any attention in the sales figures, and you'll never be able to organize a national boycott, because most people are sensible enough not to go into hysterics and threaten boycotts over a bookstore stocking a book that ooh, happens to be written by a shitty hack like Coulter.

All you're doing if you boycott a bookstore is hurting Joe and Jane Schmoe working retail there, who need their jobs. Now, if you talk to people, and make them realize what a lying, hateful idiot Coulter is, then HER BOOKS WON'T SELL.

P.S. You guys and girls threatening boycotts sound a lot like the fundie freakshows who threaten to boycott bookstores for selling books about topics such as: "the world is round" and "evolution happens."

[wizstars]

36. So just do like I do--pick 'em up and spit on 'em.

:evilgrin:

[Taverner]

38. She's funny like a tumor

A malignant one at that