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kpete Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 07:58 PM
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CHENEY: Bush Is Innocent - Because "He Wasn't Impeached"
Edited on Sun Jan-04-09 08:17 PM by kpete
Cheney: Bush's actions legal if not impeached
Andrew McLemore
Published: Sunday January 4, 2009


If you don't get punished, you didn't go anything wrong, right?

That's the message Vice President Dick Cheney gave in an interview with CBS' Bob Schieffer on Sunday, suggesting that a president's actions are legal if those actions didn't result in his impeachment.

Asked by Schieffer if he believed that anything the president does in time of war is legal, Cheney said there is "historic precedent of taking action that you wouldn't take in peacetime."

Cheney referenced Abraham Lincoln as an example of another president who "suspended the writ of habeus corpus" during a war, prompting this exchange:

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SCHIEFFER: But nobody thinks that was legal.

CHENEY: Well, no. It certainly was in the sense he wasn't impeached. And it was a wartime measure that he took that I think history says today, yeah, that was probably a good thing to do.

more at:
http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Cheney_Presidents_actions_legal_if_hes_0104.html
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:01 PM
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1. 15-1/2 days...
I think I'll be even happier to see Cheney gone than Bush. Bush is a feckless, narcissistic git; Cheney is pure evil.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:51 PM
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16. Still plenty of time to do a double impeachment if we wanted.
While even I agree it's not likely, it's not impossible.
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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:01 PM
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2. Hear that Ms. Pelosi?
grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr

like we didn't see *this* coming
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Deja Q Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:31 PM
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9. I wonder what Pelosi's fans are thinking right now?
:)

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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:49 PM
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15. They're probably thinking of ways to keep either Bush or Cheney from being brought to justice.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:00 PM
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17. They can think all they'd like, they won't be successful.
Justice will win.
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sundog Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 10:59 PM
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21. you're a douche?
:shrug:
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EstimatedProphet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 07:48 AM
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32. I know of at least one thinking that.
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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:18 PM
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22. daaaaaaaaaaang
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:49 PM
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14. My first reaction, too
People like Reid and Pelosi make me ill.

Historians will shake their heads and wonder WTF was going on in their minds.
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:02 PM
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3. the Dick is fucking right!!!
thanks Nance, Henry, Johnny Boy....
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gristy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:24 PM
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8. I agree. If he wasn't arrested (impeached), then it must have been legal. Dick has it right.
Friggin' Congress.
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shanti Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:15 AM
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27. he's giving us
the one finger salute with that statement, actually, every statement that he's given the past 2-3 weeks. :grr:
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:10 AM
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34. oh sure he is, he is rubbing our faces right in it too.
I want to see this SOB choke on his words.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:07 PM
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4. No one ever impeached Hitler either but that did not make him innocent. nt
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varelse Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:09 PM
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5. Mass murder is wrong even if you are *never* caught and put on trial
"He can't have committed any crimes - because he wasn't charged with any".

What the hell is wrong with us?

Round and round :eyes:
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Amonester Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:08 AM
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25. The question is not 'what is wrong with us?'
The question is 'what is wrong with creeps like cheney, bush, pinochet, polpot, hitler, nitti, capone, freepers, et all?'

The planet will not sustain life much longer if they're not dealt with sooner than later. It's two minutes to midnight already. :(
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:14 PM
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6. Yep, they're gonna skate. Grandma Nancy, your 'legacy' as the first woman
Speaker will show you're a weak, grasping, self-serving harpy with no qualms about covering for traitors and mass-murderers.

Let the grandkiddies digest that piece of info.
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Independent_Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:49 PM
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13. They can skate if we want them to. I know most will say...
"We tried, but Nancy told us to fuck off." Well, when she did that, we needed to try a little bit harder and not retreat. The second you retreat is the second you hand them a victory.
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acmavm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:33 PM
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39. Trying only works if you're dealing with people who aren't getting
something out of the situation for themselves. Like access to the White House, campaign contributions from Corporate Amurika, and the ability to sponge off the American public all the while thinking they were elected to represent themselves and we just get the privilege of paying thier way.
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Joyce78 Donating Member (497 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:17 PM
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7. Who actually watches Schieffer ... his golfing friends ... the Bush/Nazi family?
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AwakeAtLast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:38 PM
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10. Hitler wasn't impeached or removed as leader
So I guess he was O. K. with you, huh DICK?

:banghead: :grr: :banghead:

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freesqueeze Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:39 PM
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11. This is the result
(at least from a nut like Cheney) of showing some restraint and not holding BushCo responsible for their crimes.

If you're looking for some self-reflection...move along.



Cheney's an unrepentant monster.
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47of74 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 08:48 PM
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12. By that logic
By Cheney's sick and twisted logic the following men aren't guilty of any crimes because they faced no Earthly court for the crimes they committed;

Pope Alexander VI
Adolf Hitler
Heinrich Himmler
Joseph Goebbels
Richard Nixon
George W. Bush
and Dick Cheney.
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robinlynne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:03 PM
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18. Ms Pelosi... hear that?
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:17 PM
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19. Thank God that Jeb Bush or John McCain and that wacky Sarah
Palin were not elected. Then we'd have bob Schieffer and the other press whores demanding that this fool be given more press time. He actually is less intelligent than GW.
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Ishoutandscream2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 09:48 PM
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20. I keep waiting for Karma to come around and smack his ass
Lord knows our Dems haven't done anything about this.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:12 AM
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35. never mind about karma I wish we would smack his a$$
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Octafish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:37 PM
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23. Sneer and his toady Smirk are more than war criminals.
They are traitors.

Hell is too good for them.
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trthnd4jstc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Jan-04-09 11:41 PM
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24. Cheney $hit$ out of his mouth. n/t
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Median Democrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 12:13 AM
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26. OJ Simpson Agrees! Scooter Libby Does Not!
nm
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:16 AM
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28. ...and what would Cheney have said if they WERE impeached, and then acquitted by the Senate?
Same thing, I'd wager. Even more so. 67 Senators would never in a thousand years have voted to convict Bush/Cheney of ANYTHING.

So any of you who are actually taking Cheney's word for it that they got one over on Congress, and have somehow been vindicated by a lack of impeachment, is being punked big time. He's laughing his big white ass off at all of you.

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PeaceNikki Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:55 AM
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36. In fact, they'd be saying he was CLEARED of any wrongdoing.
How's that better?


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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:57 AM
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37. Exactamente
:patriot:
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Greyhound Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:29 AM
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29. "No one could have ever predicted this", right? K&R
:kick: & R


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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 01:39 AM
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30. And THAT, ladies and germs, is exactly why it's gonna happen again - and WORSE.
The path is paved for future psychopaths and we've proven there's not a fucking thing we'll do about it.

Not one fucking thing. :grr:
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glitch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 02:50 PM
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40. Post-partisan World
What's wrong, can't you play well with psychopaths?
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 03:13 AM
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31. Ha! Knew it - been saying it
Edited on Mon Jan-05-09 03:15 AM by Solly Mack
Said they would use exactly this framing a long while back
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 08:09 AM
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33. I would like to prove this SOB wrong, what arrogance of this man.
hate the SOB.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 09:22 AM
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38. Thanks again Speaker Pelosi (D-Traitor)
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eppur_se_muova Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Jan-05-09 05:41 PM
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41. Isn't this contrary to one of the most BASIC principles of law?
Edited on Mon Jan-05-09 06:35 PM by eppur_se_muova
OK, IANAL --- BUT --- if you run a stop sign and are not given a ticket for it, it does not mean it is legal to run that stop sign, or any other. Now matter how many times you run the same stop sign, this does not change -- the one time you are caught and given a ticket is the one time you are CHARGED with breaking the law, not the only time you have broken the law. This is not Criminal Law 101, it is Pre-Remedial Law.

What keeps the moderators from calling bullshit when Cheney pulls this crap? He's a lame dick now, only has 15 days left to shoot anyone in the face.

OE: omitted a word.
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