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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:00 PM
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Warning on toxic honey.
I just found this, dated Dec. 30th...

Did you know most of our honey comes from China?
For over the past 10 years?

They also have been using a extremely dangerous drug in their hives, then attempting to avoid detection of the tainted honey by hiding the import source.

The FDA has reacted predictably.

For more , see:

http://www.yourlawyer.com/articles/read/15762
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virgogal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:03 PM
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1. First no Santa,then no Toothfairy,now toxic honey.
Frightening,isn't it? Of course now that the FDA is on it I'll sleep better tonight.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:07 PM
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5. I shall assume that Santa and the Tooth Fairy ate tainted honey.... n/t
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NightWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:05 PM
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2. get your honey from these guys...the Savannah Bee Company
they have deals with local farmers and their own hives throughout South Georgia. I know the owner and he is good people

http://www.savannahbee.com/



No Chinese Bees
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:31 PM
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11. I buy my honey from the local food co-op who gets it from a local beekeeper
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 07:32 PM by csziggy
Tupelo honey - the best kind!

Edited to add - their honey does not come in fancy containers like the Savannah Bee Company and all they sell is honey.
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Kceres Donating Member (839 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:59 PM
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12. My sister told me that Tupelo honey is metabolized differently than regular honey and that diabetics
can consume more of it without having to worry about their blood sugar as much. Does anyone if this is true. Sorry, know this is a little off topic.
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csziggy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:33 PM
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19. Honey is better than sugar for diabetics, but I don't think there is much difference in honeys
1 Honey as Good as Another
Effect on Blood Sugar About Same for Different Types of Honey
By Daniel J. DeNoon
WebMD Health News

Aug. 24, 2006 -- One honey is as good as another -- at least as far as glucose content is concerned.

That's the finding of San Diego State University researchers who investigated claims that some honeys have a better glycemic index than others.

Glycemic index is a measure of a food's effects on blood sugar. Foods with a high glycemic index -- starchy foods, for example -- aren't good for people with diabetesdiabetes, or for people trying to lose weight.

Jennifer Ilana Ischayek, RD, and Mark Kern, PhD, RD, analyzed four kinds of honey. They looked at buckwheat honey from Oregon, clover honey from Oregon, cotton honey from California, and tupelo honey from Florida.

Unlike some earlier studies, they compared apples to apples -- that is, they made sure each honey sample contained the same amount of carbohydrates.

They found very little difference in the honeys' glycemic indices. They ranged from 69.13 to 74.14. All were very close to table sugar's glycemic index of 68.

However, Ischayek and Kern suggest that honey is probably better for you than table sugar. They note that it's sweeter, so you can use less and thus consume fewer calories. And, they say, honey has healthful antioxidant and prebiotic properties.

The study, funded by the National Honey Board, appears in the August issue of the Journal of the American Dietetic Association.

http://diabetes.webmd.com/news/20060824/1-honey-as-good-as-another
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:05 PM
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3. Why is China continually trying to poison the US?
Why?
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:07 PM
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4. Why does China hate America?? n/t
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pl259 Donating Member (123 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:20 PM
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10. That is an interesting question. Why, indeed, would someone try to kill their best customers?
I have no idea. Even purely organic parasites know better.
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entanglement Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:04 AM
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25. That's a rather silly conclusion to come to
It is the old story of Chinese manufacturers ignoring (their own government's) guidelines to refrain from the use of ultra-powerful antibiotic like chloramphenicol to make a quick buck and American importers and the FDA ignoring the issue (in other words, capitalism as usual). Interpreting such incidents as an attempt by "China to poison America" is, frankly, stupid.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:07 AM
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26. I don't think it's THAT far off.
OK, so it's not a big government conspiracy against the US, but they sure don't give a shit if their products are hurting people. The only difference being that they don't seem to care that their products are hurting their OWN people, either. We just happen to be first on their enormous list of consumers.
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Triana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 12:18 PM
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33. Bingo. China is inhumane.
Period. China as a nation is psychopathic. It has no conscience.
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juno jones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:08 PM
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6. Local honey
it costs a few bucks more but it's cleaner and it'll help your allergies too.
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Critters2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:09 PM
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7. Buy local honey...and everything else. localharvest.org nt
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LiberalHeart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:10 PM
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8. So the only food that'll never spoil is ruined before we get it.
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baldguy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 07:13 PM
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9. We've been in the process of killing our own honey bees for the last 30 yrs.
Now, do you want domestic honey? Or do you want literally everything to come in those non-biodegradable, non recyclable plastic bottles?
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Postman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:01 PM
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13. We need "country of origin" labeling for food....
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 08:01 PM by Postman
Now.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:02 PM
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14. We need to tighten the laws to prevent incompetent people in government--NOW. n/t
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crispini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:03 PM
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15. I have always bought local honey.
Better for your allergies.
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eShirl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:19 PM
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16. just checked my "Y.S. Organic Bee Farms" raw honey, origin Brazil
not sure if that's better or not?
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HughMoran Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:20 PM
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17. How come when I was at the Asian market recently, they only sold "honey flavored syrup"?
Edited on Fri Jan-02-09 08:20 PM by HughMoran
Seems ironic to hear that they are selling tainted honey here while you would think, based on the market shelves, that Asians don't even like real honey!
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rosesaylavee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:26 PM
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18. Get your honey locally. Support your local beekeepers.
Check the label for made in USA for all your produce.
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 08:56 PM
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20. MY honey certainly doesn't come from China
I'm surrounded by local honey producers. In fact, I can't see a reason WHY we need to import honey from overseas.

To me, this is like all those apple producers who are now destroying their trees. They can't compete because of the the marginally lower prices of Chinese apple products.

And yet, people don't realize that the food they've eaten for years is now coming from another continent.

If people were truly educated as to WHERE their food comes from and given a REAL CHOICE, we wouldn't have these problems.
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ananda Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 09:04 PM
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21. Besides..
.. we need to encourage local bees to
flourish and reproduce everywhere.
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MrsBrady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 09:05 PM
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22. i buy my honey from local folks n/t
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Jan-02-09 09:51 PM
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23. can I ask what brands come from China?
anybody know?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:05 AM
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29. That's the problem.. no one is talking.
If you were The Major USA Honey Supply Company, would you admit to it if you did not have to?
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lovuian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:33 AM
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32. Well thanks for the warning going to get my honey locally
thanks so much
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 01:21 PM
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34. And THAT pisses me off no end, as well.
During the melamine dog food incident, it was the same way. Some companies voluntarily 'fessed up; others kept mum. I had to call the companies and confront them to see if they imported products from China. I guess they HAVE to tell you that. I just told them that if any portion of their product came from China, they just lost a customer.

I finally found an organic supplier (Timberwolf), who showed me where all their products came from. I've stuck with them ever since.
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 03:16 PM
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35. Got alink? or will Google work?
Edited on Sat Jan-03-09 03:20 PM by dixiegrrrrl
I would like to check them out.
It is becoming abundantly clear local is the only way to go.
and if enuff of us go that way, or demand that way, more local providers will step up.

edit: Never mind..I found them on Google Timberwolf Organics.
The description of their food sources indicates their dog food is better than what we are eating.

Things that make you go hmmmmmm......
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 03:19 PM
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36. Here you go
http://timberwolforganics.com/

It's good stuff. My Greta, who used to suffer from dry skin and rashes, now is happy and healthy as can be.
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OneBlueSky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 05:09 AM
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24. I once had a honey who was about as toxic as they come . . .
we broke up . . . :shrug:
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 07:12 AM
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27. I wonder what Lush (and other cosmetic companies) use in their products...
A lot of their soaps and the like have honey in them, and I wonder where they get their honey from.

Does anyone know if the toxic honey can harm you if you get it on your skin, or only if you eat it?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 10:06 AM
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30. Skin absorbs chemicals and other stuff.
I'd personally be very aware.
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lightningandsnow Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 11:03 AM
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31. According to this page, it's used in eyedrops:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chloramphenicol

So it'd probably be okay to get on skin.

That being said, it's freaking scary that it's in the food supply.
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earth mom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Jan-03-09 08:16 AM
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28. Thanks for posting this! It's a wonder we're not all dead yet because of China!
:yoiks:
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