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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:24 PM
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Is it really George W Bush's fault ??
Nobody challenged him. Even Colin Powell went before the UN and lied about WMD's, which led most people to believe that Saddam had these weapons. The Congress agreed with everything that Bush requested, including torture and spying on Americans. At least, there is evidence that the leadership in Congress knew about everything that was going on. The Speaker of the House, a Democrat, refused to put impeachment on the table.

They agreed with his tax cuts. They agreed with his foreign policy. They agreed with his huge deficits and borrowing. At least, they did nothing about it.

It is easy to point the finger of blame at one person. However, when the spoiled child was burning the house down, no one had the courage to make him stop or sit down. There is plenty of blame to go around for the mess we are now in, in my humble opinion.
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maxsolomon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:26 PM
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1. yes. it really is his fault.
the president sets the agenda. don't let him off the hook.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:27 PM
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2. Why yes it is. He willfully lied to the American public. As CiC, that
used to be unacceptable.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:29 PM
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4. And why is it acceptable now ?
I believe our leadership in Congress simply excused it and overlooked the criminal acts. Who's to blame for that??
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:30 PM
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5. That's true. For most of that time, they had the majority.
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Fire1 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:45 PM
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14. You beat me to it.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:30 PM
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6. I have never thought it was acceptable, from anyone representing me. nt
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Frustratedlady Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:28 PM
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3. There may be plenty of blame to go around, but the fact remains...
the buck stops on George's desk. He'll have to take the good with the bad.

He could have always said, "No!" but I have a feeling he was the one pushing the war and the rest were the enablers. Cheney would have run a close second.

Neither of them have the brains to come in out of the rain, when it comes down to it. They ruled by fear and power.
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Terry_M Donating Member (559 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:31 PM
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7. The government as a whole failed. He may be the most influential part of it
but he is not the government on his own.
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SpiralHawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:31 PM
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8. "Smirk." - Commander AWOL & BFEE (R)
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opihimoimoi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:34 PM
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9. History will not be kind to that asshole.....he duped us...fooled us...conned us
played us for suckers....him and that rat friend of his...Cheney....partners in theft....
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JeanGrey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:34 PM
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10. It is ours for being so stupid.
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zagging Donating Member (531 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:36 PM
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11. Congress is complicit
There is no doubt about that.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:36 PM
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12. Bush is a brand name-he owns ALL their fuck-ups
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tularetom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 12:39 PM
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13. He was a puppet but he makes such a good scapegoat
It's becoming clearer than ever that bush was nothing more than a figurehead who was responsible for nothing beyond parroting the policies developed and pushed by Cheney and Rummy. But to me that makes him more contemptible than ever. If he lacked the brains or the balls to stand up to his evil masters he should suffer for his failures to the American people. And he will. He's gonna take a lions share of the blame for the eight years of fuckups.

But ya know what - fuck him! He wanted the job. Wanted to be a big man. Let him deal with the consequences.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:33 PM
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15. He was enabled, aided, and abetted... but yes, it's really his fault.
Edited on Tue Dec-30-08 01:35 PM by Solly Mack
Just not all his fault. And I, to be perfectly honest, think the enablers should be held accountable..and by accountable I don't mean a lick and promise to do better next time...I mean they should answer charges (aiding and abetting, accessory before/after the fact, and any cover-up) for their actions as well.

Still, as president, it is ultimately his fault.

Of course, I am acutely - painfully so - aware that no such thing will happen in America.
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kentuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:37 PM
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16. The buck does stop with the President...
that is true. And he has to accept the lion's share of the blame. But others are not blameless.
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:40 PM
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17. They sure aren't and, like I said earlier....charge them all


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Beausoleil Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-30-08 01:40 PM
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18. He presided over the plan, the strategery, the implementation.
It was his to say go or no go.

Now as for those who were tasked with enforcing accountability, complete failure.

The buck can only be passed so much before it has to stop somewhere.
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