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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 10:59 PM Original message |
"Is Gay Marriage the Wrong Issue?" |
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MrSlayer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:08 PM Response to Original message |
1. You might want to re-do your headline. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I think they need to redo more than that. (nt) |
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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:15 PM Response to Reply #1 |
9. fixed... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
2. It can help us "get over it." |
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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #2 |
26. i really didn't mean... |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:35 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Perhaps anger has a purpose. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #31 |
46. Just about to lose my support. |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #46 |
49. Yeah, you just tell us how to act in order to keep your "support", we'll get right on it |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:55 AM Response to Reply #49 |
72. You don't get it. So, I won't hold my breath. nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:28 AM Response to Reply #72 |
88. No, madame, let me assure you that YOU don't get it. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #46 |
52. Anger sure the heck DID win blacks and women civil rights. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:16 AM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Blacks and women |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:17 AM Response to Reply #56 |
58. We Don't Want Your Support. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:19 AM Response to Reply #58 |
59. That's why they've been around for 20 years. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:25 AM Response to Reply #59 |
61. They Keep You Around For Entertainment. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #61 |
65. It's true. I am. |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:21 AM Response to Reply #56 |
60. If your support is conditional, then it is not genuine. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #60 |
63. If what I see here |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:41 AM Response to Reply #63 |
67. Oh, lord, the mean whiny gays have been spewing hate here. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #67 |
77. BINGO! |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:16 AM Response to Reply #77 |
78. Nobody here has asked for anything "because they are homosexual" |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:35 AM Response to Reply #78 |
80. Well, yeah, there are. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #80 |
81. Somehow I doubt you've been told that. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #81 |
83. I would copy it for you |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:57 AM Response to Reply #83 |
85. No reason to lie, |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:07 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. Have you ever |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:27 AM Response to Reply #86 |
87. Yes, I've had personal attacks deleted. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:55 AM Response to Reply #87 |
93. Surely, you know there are degrees. |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 03:25 AM Response to Reply #93 |
94. Your last paragraph is both a personal attack and mistaken. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #94 |
99. I didn't "assume". |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:08 PM Response to Reply #99 |
100. Not buying it. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:11 PM Response to Reply #100 |
101. Nah. |
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Jamastiene (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 06:12 AM Response to Reply #77 |
97. Civil rights, "stuff" as you call them, are not being denied because we are "HUMAN." |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #97 |
107. And they should be guaranteed because you're human. nt |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:50 AM Response to Reply #63 |
70. There are gay people in THIS country that fear for their lives too. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:02 AM Response to Reply #70 |
75. My good friend and coworker |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:28 AM Response to Reply #56 |
62. If your "support" for equal rights is conditional - you own that flaw. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:40 AM Response to Reply #62 |
66. It is not "non violent" |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:45 AM Response to Reply #66 |
69. Have you been a victim of violence here? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #69 |
76. See *deleted* messages. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 05:50 AM Response to Reply #56 |
95. Deleted sub-thread |
gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:54 PM Response to Reply #46 |
108. Why do you think you're in any position to tell gay people what to do or how? |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:10 PM Response to Original message |
4. Deleted sub-thread |
flvegan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
5. "principled coalitions"??? Being a bigot isn't principled. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
6. Ah - a "no special rights"-er. The birkenstocks were a nice touch! |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:16 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. Deleted message |
BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:17 PM Response to Reply #10 |
13. (snarfle) |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
14. ! |
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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #10 |
15. sorry, I am.. |
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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #6 |
23. and the Birks... |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #23 |
36. You might have better luck with some of the more credulous here. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:00 AM Response to Reply #6 |
48. Very nice touch. |
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Maven (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:12 PM Response to Original message |
7. I think Bob Ostertag is a self-hating moron. |
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Marr (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:14 AM Response to Reply #7 |
55. I think he's *comfortable*, and rationalizing. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:14 PM Response to Original message |
8. What a pile of horse poo |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
11. The article |
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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. thank you... |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. Seems that way to me as well.... |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:16 PM Response to Original message |
12. The article is just another elderly hippy complaining |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:19 PM Response to Reply #12 |
16. Ageism . mmm so much better than sexism. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:21 PM Response to Reply #16 |
18. Sorry, but I spent years listening to aging hippies singing the praises |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #18 |
20. You are welcome to your hate for older people. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. I don't hate older people. I hate smug, sanctimonious people |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #24 |
28. Well. You weren't there. |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:38 PM Response to Reply #28 |
33. I probably would have loved it. |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:17 PM Response to Reply #33 |
105. those are some rather petulant and hypocritical people |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #28 |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #39 |
42. Correction. |
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Name removed (0 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #42 |
51. Deleted message |
Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:08 AM Response to Reply #51 |
53. Wow. I can't help but hope |
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Fumesucker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
21. I'm an "elderly hippie" and I've been happily married for over 30 years.. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:26 PM Response to Reply #12 |
22. There are a great many ageing hippies on here who support gay civil rights |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:30 PM Response to Reply #22 |
27. Thank you. When I read crap like that it makes me want to yell at them to get off my lawn. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:34 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. It's impossible to |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #30 |
37. Condescending self-righteousness is so much nicer than hatred. n/t |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:51 PM Response to Reply #37 |
43. You're maxed out. Nice to the max. nt |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:58 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. Sorry, I've had hate spewed at me all weekend |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:03 AM Response to Reply #47 |
50. I firmly believe that |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:11 AM Response to Reply #50 |
54. It has been tough for us at DU lately. |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:54 AM Response to Reply #54 |
71. I have spoken out against Warren REPEATEDLY |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:24 AM Response to Reply #71 |
79. Does it occur to you that there's a major problem here? |
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Why Syzygy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:38 AM Response to Reply #79 |
82. I see meanness directed |
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noamnety (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:54 AM Response to Reply #82 |
84. Here's what you need to learn, as a "supporter" |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:20 PM Response to Reply #50 |
106. I see it less as anger... |
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scarletwoman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #37 |
44. Oh get off my lawn, dammit. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:30 PM Response to Original message |
25. I liked the article...but I think he is missing... |
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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:36 PM Response to Reply #25 |
32. good points! n/t |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:33 PM Response to Original message |
29. Question |
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QC (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:44 PM Response to Reply #29 |
40. It's all about providing a way to brush off the Warren fiasco w/o guilt. |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
34. I am SO tired of posting this |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:49 PM Response to Reply #34 |
41. Oh, come now. Be fair! |
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mt13 (281 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:53 PM Response to Reply #34 |
45. i am so sorry... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 06:03 AM Response to Reply #45 |
96. hugs, not mad at you. nt |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:38 PM Response to Original message |
35. What a brilliant piece!!! |
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TommyO (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 11:41 PM Response to Original message |
38. thank you for demanding that gay people continue to be second class citizens |
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xchrom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
57. kiss my gay ass. nt |
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madeline_con (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
64. I have 3 issues with this piece... |
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otherlander (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:42 AM Response to Original message |
68. I disagree with the article |
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SanchoPanza (410 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 12:55 AM Response to Original message |
73. In terms of promoting societal inclusiveness of those not included... |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
74. In what way did you think this would help anyone "get over" anything? |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:30 AM Response to Original message |
89. Wow. That guy is an idiot. n/t |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:33 AM Response to Original message |
90. The author of that article is a fucking moron. NT |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:36 AM Response to Original message |
91. Yuck..got something on the bottom of my shoe |
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HEyHEY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:38 AM Response to Original message |
92. No wonder that fucktard is only online. |
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Smith_3 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 08:54 AM Response to Original message |
98. Is that a joke or does is he actually serious? |
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La Lioness Priyanka (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
102. if warren was only against marriage that would be one thing but he is not. |
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Ioo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
103. Story you link to misses point: Other groups CAN get married if they wanted to |
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LostinVA (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
104. Of course it made sense to you |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 01:58 PM Response to Original message |
109. You're not against gay marriage, eh? |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:00 PM Response to Original message |
110. who's gonna rec this crap to the greatest page? nt. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 02:11 PM Response to Original message |
111. OK I figured out words to describe what is so desperately wrong with this article |
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HamdenRice (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 04:32 PM Response to Original message |
112. Brilliant, thought provoking piece. In other times, we might actually discuss what the author |
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closeupready (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 04:51 PM Response to Original message |
113. So by my reading, this guy has three or four or five spouses? |
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