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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 06:58 PM Original message |
"As a Christian, I believe marriage is between one man and one woman." Is this argument even... |
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Sarah Ibarruri (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
1. The Bible was also used to interpret black people as being evil... |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:01 PM Response to Original message |
2. It is not accurate religiously or historically. |
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Somawas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:12 PM Response to Reply #2 |
4. Please post some links to those sources. |
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question everything (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #4 |
6. The Bible says that "a man and a woman should cleave" |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:30 PM Response to Reply #6 |
10. I've heard that before, but that only relates to sex, not necessarily marriage... |
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LibertyLover (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:16 PM Response to Reply #4 |
41. See the book |
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Toucano (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 04:19 PM Response to Reply #4 |
52. Delayed response. |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:08 PM Response to Original message |
3. I do not acknowledge the Bible as having any authority at all over my life. |
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Synicus Maximus (828 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:29 PM Response to Reply #3 |
23. No, but |
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foxfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 09:45 PM Response to Reply #23 |
38. And I didn't. |
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Turbineguy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:13 PM Response to Original message |
5. It is valid in a certain context |
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uppityperson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:18 PM Response to Original message |
7. It depends on the definition of "Christian", or perhaps what type "christian" a person is. |
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Lydia Leftcoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:20 PM Response to Original message |
8. My church performs same-sex wedding ceremonies, even though |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:24 PM Response to Original message |
9. Marriage should be a civil issue |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #9 |
11. Truth be told, "church" marriages have no legal standing at all.. |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #11 |
19. And ministers should not have the civil authority |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
24. I understand, again it is the registration with the clerk of court.. that |
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ayeshahaqqiqa (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 09:21 PM Response to Reply #24 |
37. Hey, I agree with you |
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mondo joe (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:30 PM Response to Reply #19 |
25. I don't mind because I think about anyone should have the authority to perform |
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azureblue (412 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:41 PM Response to Original message |
12. It is not. |
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shadowknows69 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 07:02 AM Response to Reply #12 |
50. "What God hath joined together---.". |
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Gwendolyn (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:42 PM Response to Original message |
13. Their argument is that God created Adam and Eve... one man meant for one woman. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:48 PM Response to Original message |
14. The marriage is a "one man-one woman sacrament" appears to have evolved |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #14 |
16. Actually, it wasn't the Early Church, but the Early Medieval Church that really wrote the book on... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:58 PM Response to Reply #16 |
17. Marriage is not a sacrament in the protestant churches. |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
20. That's true, of course, this was well before the Protestant Reformation... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:34 PM Response to Reply #20 |
28. Those dang indulgences.. drove Luther nutsy fagen.. He never |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #28 |
29. If I remember my history right, the Church basically asked for bribes from loved ones... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #29 |
31. Yep, you could buy your way to heaven! |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:47 PM Response to Reply #31 |
32. My parents are lapsed Catholics, I'm an atheist, and my sister is a Pagan... |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #32 |
35. Well churches and "religions" are human things |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:19 PM Response to Reply #16 |
22. in fairness to Paul |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Yep Paul thought the second coming was going to be "next" week so to speak |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:33 PM Response to Reply #26 |
27. but for those who were married he did not say anything |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:39 PM Response to Reply #27 |
30. ~rofl~ no kidding about the rabid communist.. The best |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #30 |
34. 'peace' might be a stretch |
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Peacetrain (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 09:03 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. ~ROFL~ a little off thread, but did you ever see the |
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ProdigalJunkMail (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Dec-22-08 03:56 PM Response to Reply #36 |
54. i loved ALL the Seinfelds (well, the bulk of them) |
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canetoad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
15. Ya forgot one thing Solon |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #15 |
18. Well, technically, legally, marriage was, all the way up till the late 18th to 19th centuries... |
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mykpart (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:13 PM Response to Original message |
21. The problem with the religious argument is |
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Celeborn Skywalker (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 08:48 PM Response to Original message |
33. It's stupid. |
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Merlot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:07 PM Response to Original message |
39. It really doesn't matter. We are NOT a Christian nation. |
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Toasterlad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 10:14 PM Response to Original message |
40. Oh, It's As Valid As Anything Else They Say. |
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unblock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:05 PM Response to Original message |
42. well, "as a nonreligionist, i believe that christians should not be allowed to breed." |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:07 PM Response to Original message |
43. Obama does not doubt the ... |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:09 PM Response to Original message |
44. I believe a Christian or any other religious person can believe anything they want - |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 03:30 AM Response to Reply #44 |
46. They can believe whatever they want, but its not a religious belief, and we should call them out... |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Dec-20-08 11:11 PM Response to Original message |
45. They apply this arguement even if you get married at City Hall |
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Norrin Radd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 04:48 AM Response to Original message |
47. I wonder how Christians feel about a one man and one woman marriage, |
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Solon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 04:59 AM Response to Reply #47 |
48. For the most conservative of them, I think they view Transsexuals as mentally ill... |
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and-justice-for-all (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 06:35 AM Response to Original message |
49. Only if you subscirbe to the doctrine is it valid... |
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Orsino (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 07:03 AM Response to Original message |
51. "I hide *my* hate behind a Bible." n/t |
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SidDithers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Dec-21-08 05:03 PM Response to Original message |
53. My response is usually something along the lines of... |
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