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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:05 PM
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Cenk: Not Another Word on Gay Marriage Until They Execute an Adulterer
Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 06:38 PM by ihavenobias

By Cenk Uygur

The religious right picks and chooses which parts of the Bible they want to apply. And they choose based on which outsider group they would like to hate next. First, they emphasized slavery in the Bible when they wanted to hate black people. Now, they emphasize the parts condemning homosexuality so they can hate gay people.

They are completely and utterly disingenuous. They don't mean a word of it. They don't give a damn what the Bible says. They just want to use it as an instrument of hate.

The Bible says eating shellfish is an abomination. Yet there are no Red Lobster Amendments. The Bible says you shall not wear two different types of cloths at the same time. Yet there are no Propositions against cotton and wool combos.

The Bible says you should leave your family and join Jesus Christ. The religious right pretends that Jesus was about family values. He wanted you to abandon your family. Read the Bible.

The religious right pretends that the Bible says marriage is between one man and one woman. But that is a bald faced lie. Have any of these people ever read the Bible? The Bible is full of men taking on second wives, servants, prostitutes and concubines. And all the while, God heartily approves. Eight? Twelve? Let alone his possibly , Jonathan.

Now the Bible says that a man shall not lie with another man. That is true. But it also says, in the same exact book, that adultery is an abomination. And the . So, who will execute the first adulterer? Please step on up. May the one without any Biblical sin cast the first stone.

Here is a question no one can answer -- and lucky for the right wing, the media never bothers to ask -- why do you only focus on the part of the Bible against homosexuality but not on the part against adultery? It's one thing to say you're against adultery; it's another to take away their rights. How come no religious figure in this country has mounted a campaign to take away the rights of adulterers? Let alone execute them.

I'll tell you why. Because there are too many of them. Their followers are adulterers. They don't make for good scapegoats. They are not an easy target to ostracize and focus your hatred on. Gays are perfect. They are a small enough percentage of the population and different enough from the rest of us to be able to get people to focus their negative, barbaric instincts on them. The Bible is only a tool for this tribal, ugly tactic.

But I am tired of hearing people saying that homosexuality is a sin in the Bible when they never quote the rest of the Bible (probably because a great majority of church goers have never independently read the Bible or they have built up a reservoir of excuses for the parts they find inconvenient). So, from now, , you are perfectly allowed to say how much you would like to take gay people's rights away from them based on the Bible so long as you agree to do one thing first -- execute an adulterer.

If you can do that for me, then I'll believe that you actually believe in the Bible literally and will accept your literal argument against homosexuality. Fair is fair. Step on up.



PS -- In case anyone is a maniacal literalist, please do not actually attempt to execute any adulterers or anyone else. Check yourself into a mental hospital instead because could be out to get you.

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midnight Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:09 PM
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1. "execute an adulterer." That would sure take care of the
population problem....
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DBoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:28 PM
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9. It would take care of the "Republican problem"
nt
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bunnies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:10 PM
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2. Allow me to offer up my ex-husband.
:bounce:
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Wetzelbill Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:19 PM
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6. .....
:toast: :rofl:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 07:20 PM
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10. Ditto.
:)
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:21 PM
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29. lol
;)
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:26 PM
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18. I have an ex-boyfiend
(purposely used the word fiend)to offer up as well, though I think Karma caught up with him.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:37 PM
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19. Hmm, these comments add up to a good sub thread!
;)
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Qanisqineq Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 01:25 PM
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30. I've got one I can offer up
only he's not an ex yet
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:08 PM
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31. Seriously though, these stories deserve their own thread!
:)
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:13 PM
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3. K & R!!!
:applause:

:woohoo:
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:14 PM
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4. What about THIS sin?
A man or a woman who cheats on their spouse with a same sex partner by shrimping (sucking toes)? What kind of hell is waiting for THIS person?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 09:10 PM
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15. Hmm, maybe that's in the revised King James?
;)
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:45 AM
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22. "shrimping?" wtf? (i live such a reclusive life...apparently) n/t
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ejbr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:38 AM
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26. Then I guess we should live the term "scat" alone.
:puke:
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:33 PM
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28. You're not the only one...apparently.
:)
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:17 PM
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5. I think Rick Warren should STFU until he loses weight.
"Do not join those who drink too much wine or gorge themselves on meat, for drunkards and gluttons become poor, and drowsiness clothes them in rags."
--Proverbs 23:20-21

"He who keeps the law is a discerning son, but a companion of gluttons disgraces his father."
-- Proverbs 28:7

"Put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony."
-- Proverbs 23:2
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:22 PM
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7. ROTFLMAO @ jgraz
Funny. He is a BLIMP!
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jgraz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 06:23 PM
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8. We should all ask him when he plans to kill himself
Edited on Fri Dec-19-08 06:24 PM by jgraz
After all, Proverbs (the inspired word of God) couldn't be more clear on the subject.

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Duer 157099 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 11:51 PM
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20. "Put a knife to your throat if you are given to gluttony"
Hmmm, I've always taken that to mean be prepared to give yourself a tracheotomy in case of choking on too big a chunk of meat. Since this was B.H. (Before Heimlich)
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:05 PM
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34. At first I thought that was mean
But then you backed it up with the quotes.
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pleah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 07:48 PM
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11. K&R
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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 08:15 PM
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12. K&R
:kick:
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mnhtnbb Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 08:21 PM
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13. The right wing love to find groups to hate. Makes them feel so smug and self-righteous.
They are such hypocrites. I get tired of hearing about how they're all sinners, so it's ok to be a hypocrite. I wish the fundies would just pay attention to their own faults, love their neighbors and shut the fuck up! But, that might be too Christian for them.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:20 PM
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35. Agreed. n/t
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Azlady Donating Member (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 08:29 PM
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14. K&R
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 09:58 PM
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16. Bump!
:kick:
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JDPriestly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Dec-19-08 10:14 PM
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17. Great! Thanks, Cenk.
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Window Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 12:43 AM
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21. K/R.
:kick:
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RetiredTrotskyite Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:12 AM
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23. I LOVE These Guys!!! The Young Turks ROCK!!!
They do have the problem in a nutshell, Christians worry about everyone else's lives and souls except their own!Their god is supposedly a God of love and peace, but his followers seem to feel justified in spewing hate and encouraging violence. They are nothing short of dispicable!
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leftstreet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:14 AM
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24. A big K&R!
Awesome!
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20score Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 03:31 AM
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25. Great! K&R
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killbotfactory Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:27 AM
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27. Obama is going to swear an oath on this book?
A book that promotes slavery, polygamy, genocide, and bigotry?

Where is the outrage?
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:13 PM
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37. Based on a lot of the threads I've seen here, there's plenty! n/t
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G_j Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:14 PM
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32. K&R
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 02:29 PM
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33. "..Until they execute adulterers"...hey, don't give em any ideas...
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 09:34 PM
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39. But that's the thing.
They would NEVER make such a big push against something that actually effects them! That's why they don't make nearly as much noise about divorce and infidelity (the two biggest threats to the sanctity of marriage).
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abq e streeter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:28 AM
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40. Unless of course they're godless liberal adulterers
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matthewf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 04:37 PM
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36. k&r
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CherylK Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Dec-20-08 05:53 PM
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38. Bump!
:kick:
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shimmergal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 02:55 AM
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41. No, actually--
How about that law that says all debts will be cancelled after seven years? How about challenging them to agitate for this one? We especially need it now, when so many people can't make their payments.
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:57 AM
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42. Excellent!
That's never going to happen, and we all know that.

So- if adulterers get a pass, how about
accepting that same sex marriage is a right,
just as hetero marriage is?

Same sex marriage is a committed
union between two adults.
Adultery is an offense to that commitment.

Hmm- where does that put polygamy?

But I get Cenk's point and he says it well.
The hypocrisy of the RW Fundies shines through.

And hey!- Kudos to our CA Attorney General, former Governor
Jerry Brown for asking the State Supreme Court to toss out Prop 8!

http://tinyurl.com/9ukr64

:applause:

Go Cenk, :kick: and R
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Kajsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-21-08 11:58 AM
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43. Excellent!
That's never going to happen, and we all know that.

So- if adulterers get a pass, how about
accepting that same sex marriage is a right,
just as hetero marriage is?

Same sex marriage is a committed
union between two adults.
Adultery is an offense to that commitment.

Hmm- where does that put polygamy?

But I get Cenk's point and he says it well.
The hypocrisy of the RW Fundies shines through.

And hey!- Kudos to our CA Attorney General, former Governor
Jerry Brown for asking the State Supreme Court to toss out Prop 8!

http://tinyurl.com/9ukr64

:applause:

Go Cenk, :kick: and R
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