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Truth Teller Donating Member (479 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:55 PM
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"Gee, maybe Donnie McClurkin wasn't a fluke"
The gay rights movement, bursting with organization and energy in the wake of the passage of Proposition Eight a month and a half ago, may have a new cause: ppposing Rick Warren's role at the inauguration.

John Aravosis, a bit of a leading indicator in these things, is up in arms:

"Gee, maybe Donnie McClurkin wasn't a fluke. Picking Rick Warren to give THE invocation is abominable," he writes.

http://www.politico.com/blogs/bensmith/1208/Warren_backlash.html
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sandnsea Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 04:57 PM
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1. I will be the first to agree
He didn't learn a thing from that incident and maybe I was wrong at the time.
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Hell Hath No Fury Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:08 PM
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2. Yup.
It's not just about Warren -- it's about an Obama pattern of blowing off the gay community. :mad:
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:09 PM
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3. Why am I not the least bit suprised
He's lost me
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:13 PM
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4. Of course it wasn't
Obama pandered to fundies throughout the campaign.

What's going to be interesting is to see how he implements his fiath based initiative(s) and whether discriminatory and anti-sceince groups are allowed access to federal funding.

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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 05:32 PM
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5. Not that anyone cares...
but here is the Obama community website to post:

http://change.gov/newsroom/entry/building_the_community_a_guide_to_comments

and this is the email addy for those on the Presidential Inaugural Committee who make decisions regarding the inauguration...
http://inaugural.senate.gov/cmte/
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qwlauren35 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:37 PM
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6. No, it wasn't a fluke. Same-sex marriage is NOT part of Obama's agenda.
I'm not understanding why anyone thought that it was?

He and Biden have said, point blank, that they do not support same-sex marriage, but will leave it up to the states, instead of supporting a federal ban or constitutional amendment.

His acceptance of Warren is completely in line with this belief.

I'm really missing it. Is opposition to same-sex marriage the same as saying that gays should be persecuted, beaten, denounced, vilified, etc?

As an African-American, I make no pretense that racism has been eradicated, and I don't get bent out of shape when known racists speak publically. Now, a KKK leader who believes I should be lynched, that would upset me. But someone who doesn't want me to marry white people...

How on earth is this worth getting bent out of shape about?

I don't love confederate flags, or the song Dixie, but I wouldn't stop a Southerner from playing the song during an inauguration if it meant that much to him.
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HarukaTheTrophyWife Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:39 PM
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7. Which one of your rights would you like to give up?
Warren and McClurkin go way past just being anti-gay marriage by the way.
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FreeState Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:58 PM
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9. Obama came out against Prop 8 - Warren was involved in passing it - they are not the same agenda n/t
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KamaAina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:00 PM
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10. Would you get bent out of shape if a known racist spoke at a Dem president's inauguration?
presumably not this one. :-)
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Mari333 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:07 PM
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11. Rick Warren doing the invocation at Obama's inauguration
is no different then having David Duke being asked to say an invocation at an NAACP rally.
same-o. same-o.
Civil rights is civil rights.
and Obama is wrong about gay marriage. the least he can do is be respectful of the gay community.
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alarimer Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 06:43 PM
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8. Warren is a piece of shit.
And allowing him to do this just legitimizes his crap. As if he didn't make enough money off his snake oil already. He's just another TV-preacher, bigot and a liar.

IF you have to have an invocation (and why in the fucking hell do they have to have one, we are a fucking secular country, you fundagelical idiots can go to hell) there are many others who might be more appropriate.

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:11 PM
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12. Yes, Rick Warren should have no role in the inauguration.
They can't find one God damned preacher who DOESN'T shit on gays?!

Call U.U., and get a person who loves everyone to say the prayer.
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-17-08 07:29 PM
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13. But that would hack off the fundagelicals..
Obama can shit on his base because they have no one else to vote for, the fundagelicals on the other hand he treats with care.

I can't say I'm surprised by this since I saw it coming a long time ago, it nevertheless pisses me off and I'm a straight male.

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