What was this "Bush has laid a trap" crapola they were spewing..

[Virginia Dare]

last night on MSNBC? Russert, Gregory, and the whole bunch of them.

There is no trap. Bush et al are up a shit filled creek with no paddle. Leahy has got the goods, and Rove will have to either implicate himself and possibly the chimp too or perjure himself. Either way, he's a goner. What choice to they have but to refuse and fight it? How can this be construed as a "trap"?

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

1. Can you elaborate?

I'm not quite sure I understand - what portion of this is possibly a trap?

[Virginia Dare]

7. That's what I'm wondering too...

I don't see the trap. That was the meme last night though, by making the Democrats an "offer", by appearing to meet them halfway, they were laying a trap. That's the only elaboration I have, they threw it out there and kept repeating it.

[BOSSHOG]

8. The conversation you refer to

is a reflection of how the tone of our discourse has changed. Anyone who now thinks of the bush administration has to automatically think of nefarious motives. Instead of actually honestly going about the business of the country, they sit in the oval office trying to figure out ways to trick fuck somebody about something. Although I don't think there is any such trick in this case, just incompetence, to think that this band of criminals would have that in mind is more then legitimate.

[Virginia Dare]

10. Very true, BOSSHOG...

it's all a head game for them. It's like the bully on the street who is all talk but in the end can't back it up with action.

They've been skating on knee bashing and intimidation for 6 long years.

Hey chimp, here's some Texas talk you should be able to understand, what you don't seem to understand is there's a new sheriff in town, and it's about to get real interesting for you.

[radfringe]

2. daring Dems to subpoena

so the bushies can wail about it being partisan, drag it into courts and thus delay any further information from being released -- brings the investigations/hearings to a full stop

on the other hand - if the busies are honorable and have done the proper things - there's no reason to fear answering questions

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

13. I don't see how that helps them.

It just makes them look like they've got even more to hide. And they will almost certainly lose in court. There's ample precedent for WH staffers being subpoenaed by the Senate.

[radfringe]

17. doesn't matter if it looks like they have something to hide

all they have to do is tie it up in the courts for the next 2 years - then the bushies are out of office... no bushies - no problem - no investigation

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

20. There's no chance that they could tie it up for that long, though.

A couple of months? Maybe. A year? Very, very unlikely. Longer than that? Nearly impossible.

[radfringe]

21. of course they can

just keep bumping it up to a higher court on appeals, the bushies won't be in any rush to get this to the supreme court like they did with the 2000 election

[Cessna Invesco Palin]

25. No.

It will go to US District court and then the Supreme Court. That's it.

[Virginia Dare]

27. Congress is the grease for the squeaky wheel in this case..

this won't be like the Cheney case, which was brought by a non-profit corp. Things will move rather swiftly in this case I think.

[zanne]

14. The same reason Gore didn't pursue further action...

Because "We don't want a consitutional crisis". I think that's the trap they're referring to.

[BOSSHOG]

3. Its true

there are several traps bush has set up in the oval office. Its why he sounded so breathless yesterday. He was tiptoeing to get out of the oval into his reading room to read us the riot act.

[Jeff In Milwaukee]

6. Bush caught in a trap...

chews off his leg, but he's still caught.

[Dhalgren]

15. Chews off wrong leg...

[Jacobin]

18. You owe me a key board!!

:rofl:

[Xipe Totec]

4. It's a typo

Transcrips should have read: "Bush has laid a crap"

[Th1onein]

12. WARNING!

Never, NEVER write something like this when people are having coffee in front of their computers!

[Xipe Totec]

28. ROFL!

Oops! Sorry!

:yoiks:








:rofl:

[ThomWV]

5. He's Far To Clever For Us Commoners To Understand

George the genius. Locally such statement bring shouts of "In a pig's ass".

[submerged99]

9. The rightwing has been "warning" us since prior to the midterms

This just the latest warning from the right wing. It happens whenever we pursue a line that eventually does severe damage to the repugs. A thread is discovered on the repug garment and the dems pull it. The repugs, knowing full well they are about to be exposed, issue a "warning" and act as if the dems are playing into their hands and will rue continuing on their current path. Fortunately, most of us don't fall for it and continue to publicize the repug actions. Eventually, the repug actions become a scandal and their approval ratings drop.

[Virginia Dare]

11. Let us not forget that Senator Leahy was one of the...

recipients of the anthrax powder.

[Mr. Ected]

16. What the Hell Is A "Constitutional Crisis"?

Is that just a beltway term for "One branch of government caught breaking the law by another branch of the government, and we DARE you to pursue it"?

Is that what a Constitutional crisis is?

[riverdeep]

19. I didn't see the exchange you're referring to,

but from what you describe it seems to be a way to position the administration as being the ones in charge, as opposed to meekly giving up and handing over info. Understand, like a gang leader, they believe any appearance of what they perceive as weakness will allow an oppurtunity for a take down. So they hit hard when their illusions are confronted. I don't know why Gregory would do this though, that doesn't really fit the theory.

[ourbluenation]

22. when a person refuses to testify when subpoenaed, the AG's office pursues the charges.

maybe that's the trap. but, what I think they meant is that if the senate pushes this issue, the "people" will get frustrated. I think it's bs. plus I think the AG has a conflict of interest on the other issue.

[underpants]

23. LOL that's funny. W has gotten completely played on ever turn

The list is too long to list but in every single way Bush (Cheney) have been embarassed at every single turn in every conflict on every issue. The American people are the only ones who don't know it due to our MSM.

This is some crappy attempt to make him seem wiley and street smart.

[Bake]

24. This will be the BushCo response to any and all subpoenas

Wailing about it being a partisan fishing expedition ... witch hunt ...

Somebody call the waaaaaaaaaaambulance.

Bake

[merh]

26. It's the position the bushbots have taken - they want it to appear

that the admin has gone out of it's way to be cooperative and that the Dems refuse the cooperation and are on some political witch hunt. It makes king george look so manevolent, he has tried to cooperate with the commoners, he has more important things to do, there is a war on for pete's sake. :crazy: