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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:32 PM
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Remember that SCHIP bill that Bush vetoed?
Thank god we didn't waste money on those deadbeat kids. There's no way we'd be able to afford the rescue packages and loans if we'd spent a few billion on children's health insurance.

If a seven year old kid needs health insurance, he should get off his lazy ass and get a job like the rest of us.

I'm glad the Democrats in Congress are finally standing up for us by not reintroducing that bill.
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Pirate Smile Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:35 PM
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1. What did I miss? Bush vetoed SCHIP.
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hughee99 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:43 PM
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4. Twice...
Edited on Sun Dec-07-08 11:44 PM by hughee99
When it came time to reauthorize it, they added some things that got *'s veto, they failed to override and created a second bill that was also vetoed. Eventually, they ended up getting funding to just continue the existing program "as is", funding that runs out in about 3 months.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_Children's_Health_Insurance_Program
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:47 PM
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5. Then Bush signed a pork-laden bill which shelled out over $750 billion
towards people who are much better off than potential recipients of SCHIP.

Congress could have leveraged this double standard into serious pressure on getting the bill passed again and signed, especially considering the broad bipartisan support it had. Instead they give handouts to defense contractors in Iraq, investment bankers, and CEOs, and leave the kids to fend for themselves.
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proud2BlibKansan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:38 PM
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2. It's also good they haven't reformed No Child Left Behind
Kids need to be taught to spit out information and regurgitate facts! Who needs critical thinking in this fast paced technologically driven world?

It's also never too early to teach kids that not everything in life has to cost money! Make them sacrifice and then they will appreciate what little money we do spend on their education!
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Telly Savalas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:58 PM
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6. I know.
I hear people griping about NCLB, and it drives me apeshit. Even if NCLB were a bad idea, Pelosi and Reid have only had 90 or so weeks to do anything about it.

The extremist ideology that recognizing and correcting deficiencies in our education policy constitutes good government is borderline treason.
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Dec-07-08 11:39 PM
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3. Yeah! Who wants healthy, educated children anyway?
What good are they to a country?
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Froward69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 12:39 AM
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7. Whilst it is good for ones sanity
to think like a freeper once and a while... I Strongly recommend merely toying with the impulse. Like Serious drugs, it should be kept to small indulgences from time to time... :crazy: :sarcasm: :rofl:
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Juche Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:13 AM
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8. Well it was $7 billion a year
Which is almost 1/3 of what we spend on handouts to drug companies under medicare D because we wont let medicare negotiate prices on pharmaceuticals.

And those 3.3 million kids probably didn't want healthcare anyway.

http://www.theonion.com/content/video/study_most_children_strongly
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Ichingcarpenter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Dec-08-08 01:16 AM
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9. Remember that $9 billion they lost in Iraq or the $2.3 trillion?
Rumsfeld lost

Defense Department Cannot Account For 25% Of Funds — $2.3 Trillion

CBS) On Sept. 10, Secretary of Defense Donald Rumsfeld declared war. Not on foreign terrorists, "the adversary's closer to home. It's the Pentagon bureaucracy," he said.

He said money wasted by the military poses a serious threat.

"In fact, it could be said it's a matter of life and death," he said.

Rumsfeld promised change but the next day – Sept. 11-- the world changed and in the rush to fund the war on terrorism, the war on waste seems to have been forgotten.

Just last week President Bush announced, "my 2003 budget calls for more than $48 billion in new defense spending."

More money for the Pentagon, CBS News Correspondent Vince Gonzales reports, while its own auditors admit the military cannot account for 25 percent of what it spends.

"According to some estimates we cannot track $2.3 trillion in transactions," Rumsfeld admitted.

$2.3 trillion — that's $8,000 for every man, woman and child in America. To understand how the Pentagon can lose track of trillions, consider the case of one military accountant who tried to find out what happened to a mere $300 million.

"We know it's gone. But we don't know what they spent it on," said Jim Minnery, Defense Finance and Accounting Service.


http://www.cbsnews.com/stories/2002/01/29/eveningnews/main325985.shtml
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