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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:02 PM
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Who was worse than Bush?
Has there ever been a president in the US that was worse than Bush? I was thinking Nixon maybe but he is a saint compared to Bush, so who is worse and why?
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:03 PM
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1. Cheney.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:15 PM
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11. But, but, but
he was only the shadow President. Bush is the worst President ever. :hi:
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XemaSab Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:03 PM
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2. Hitler
n/t
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ashling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:06 PM
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6. By a hair
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Joe the Liberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:12 PM
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9. Hitler was bad but wasn't a US president
I'm talking about a president here in the US who was worse than Bush. Has there ever been a president worse than Bush throughout US history?
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Gman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:04 PM
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3. I suppose an argument could be made that Hitler was worse
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VeraAgnes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:05 PM
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4. No there has not been any President worse than " little bush".
He wins that title.
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Cleita Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:06 PM
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5. I don't know about Presidents, but Ivan the Terrible comes to mind
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 08:07 PM by Cleita
when thinking about awful rulers. He was big on torture too and starving the peasants.
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rateyes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:07 PM
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7. Has there ever been a president in the US that was worse than Bush?
No.
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Booster Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:09 PM
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8. Not in my lifetime, and I'm old.
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Sex Pistol Donating Member (257 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:14 PM
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10. People tend to judge things based on their own experiences...
however, Bush doesn't even make the top 10 in the eyes of most historians.

He may be bad, but there have definitely been worse.


http://listverse.com/politics/top-10-worst-us-presidents/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Historical_rankings_of_United_States_Presidents

http://www.usnews.com/usnews/news/worstpresidents/

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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:16 PM
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12. NO , NEVER n/t
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daninthemoon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:26 PM
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13. Nope, dubya is WPE Worst President Ever.
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:49 PM
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20. Hear, hear. n/t
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hvn_nbr_2 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:40 PM
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14. The only contender is Buchanan
Nixon: Although at the time, he created the standard of corruption, Bush makes Nixonian corruption look rather quaint. And besides, Nixon did a few good things and didn't bring the nation and the economy to their knees. We thought at the time that he pissed and shit on the constitution, but we didn't really know shit then. Bush showed us shitting on the constitution.

Harding: He set the pre-Nixon standard for corruption.

Grant: He set the pre-Harding standard.

Buchanan: Wasn't corrupt as far as I know but he fiddled and diddled while the country drifted toward civil war.
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:45 PM
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15. Stalin, Baby Doc, Mugabe, Vlad the Impaler maybe
otherwise, I give up
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:47 PM
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16. No one! He is the worst. Some 'legacy' eh george?
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screembloodymurder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:19 PM
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17. Stalin, Hitler and Jack the Ripper.
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 09:21 PM by screembloodymurder
:rofl:
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jmowreader Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:41 PM
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18. Idi Amin was a little worse
It's bad when we have to start looking at tinhorn dictators to find leaders who were worse than Bush.
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Solano Donating Member (12 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:44 PM
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19. Harry Truman
Wasn't he the guy when the Depression began?
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Poiuyt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:53 PM
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21. Herbert Hoover
And he wasn't nearly as bad as Bush
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unkachuck Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:54 PM
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22. yep, he's the guy....n/t
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svpadgham Donating Member (374 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:43 PM
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23. Truman
Edited on Tue Dec-02-08 10:45 PM by svpadgham
Was President after FDR. FDR is the guy that got us out of the Depression. Truman dropped the atom/H bombs on Japan.

Edited due to stupidity.
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:35 AM
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27. Are you kidding?
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:48 AM
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29. Harry Truman was the first President to fight for civil rights since Lincoln
Attorney Gardner, an adjunct professor at Georgetown University, crafts a persuasive brief to argue that Harry Truman was the 20th century's best president in terms of civil rights the true successor to the Great Emancipator. His provincial Missouri background notwithstanding, Truman was influenced by his World War II experiences and voracious reading to become a presidential champion of human rights. Gardner cites Truman's American human rights "firsts," among them that he was the first president to accept an invitation from the NAACP and the first to have an integrated inaugural in segregated Washington, DC. Truman sustained his human rights record throughout his seven-year presidency, naming the first African American to the federal bench, ending segregation in the armed forces and the federal civil service, opening the capital's public swimming pools to black families in 1950, and delivering the 1953 Howard University commencement address. More problematic is the author's argument that Truman's Supreme Court appointees especially Chief Justice Fred Vinson and Tom Clark laid judicial groundwork for the famous Brown v. Board of Education decision. Here, Gardner's assessment contradicts prevailing scholarly consensus. Regardless of who is right on this point, however, Gardner's first book is highly recommended for all libraries. William D. Pederson, Louisiana State Univ. in Shreveport
http://www.amazon.com/Harry-Truman-Civil-Rights-Political/dp/0809324253

The one thing that did backfire was the Urban renewal act which caused many african-americans to become homeless but wasn't his intention.
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DerekG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:49 PM
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24. Most of them were pretty shitty
Free association time...


Wilson--Palmer raids, World War I

Truman--Hiroshima/Nagasaki, National Security State

Eisenhower--Guatemala, Iran

Johnson--Indonesia, Vietnam

Nixon--Cambodia, Vietnam, Chile

Reagan--Latin America, death squads

Bush--Iraq, Highway of Death

Clinton--Iraqi sanctions, Plan Columbia


Bunch of vampires.

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TheKentuckian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:32 AM
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25. Bad and ineffective get too similar treatment from the lists
Edited on Wed Dec-03-08 12:35 AM by TheKentuckian
Lil Bush was effective in ramrodding his agenda through but I'm pretty comfortable with giving him worst ever status. His like Reagan on steroids, PCP, and crack.

You know why the "experts" should be ignored? Nary a one will rightfully but Ronnie Ray Gun in the their bottom 10.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:33 AM
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26. RAYgUN
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 12:39 AM
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28. Andrew Jackson
I've heard some pretty horrible things about him.
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ezgoingrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:25 AM
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30. No U.S. President is worse, and I hope
that we never see one that is worse. He can't even leave office with any class, he's gotta go out burning bridges and taking down anything left standing.
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JonLP24 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:46 AM
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32. I don't know how anyone can be worse then Jackson
The native american removal has to be one of the most disgraceful thing ever if not the most. He owned slaves and he also directly killed a guy in a duel. I don't know everything about every President but the man seemed crazy.
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orleans Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 03:31 AM
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31. finally something the fuckhead is good at: being the worst! n/t
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