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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:11 AM
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TOON: Why do we even HAVE election campaigns?

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Drunken Irishman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:17 AM
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1. That's now two anti-Obama cartoons from you in the last 10 minutes.
Why not just put them all in the same thread?
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:18 AM
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2. That cartoonist is not even funny.
I rarely read his crap because it's never humorous.

I don't even know his (her?) name, but I recognize the style.

He (she?) is like the Family Circle of political cartoonists.

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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:58 AM
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6. Political cartoons are not necessarily supposed to be funny. They are
suppose to make you think. And he does have a point.
We are not going to have real change till:

1.) The populous rises up and demands we deal with the criminals in and out of the bu$h administration that has caused this financial mess.

2.) Turn the war criminals over to the World Court.

3.) Let the citizens of this country choose who they really want for our leaders. As things are now they are chosen for us. Our only choice in the end is which of the choices is the lesser of the evils. This time it was an easy either/or choice.

Obama was the last man standing on the Democratic side.
With the cabinet he has chosen, we shall see if there really is the Change We Need, which is clearing out the corruption of "Ol' Boys Club" or businesses as usual- The frog in hot water, representing our growing fascism and its money making war machine.

With Obama's cabinet picks, my hopes are dimming. We will definitely find out.

When all you have ever known is thick brambles, it is hard to imagine large, open spaces with the sun shining. This is another way of making the point that cartoon is trying to make.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:24 PM
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17. Like I said: this guy (gal?) is the Family Circus of political cartoonists. Simply. Not. Funny. n/t
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 05:55 PM
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20. Family Circus is shallow and Innocent. Written from a 6 year old viewpoint.
The cartoon in question in much deeper and has a message for those awake enough to see it.
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cali Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:20 AM
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3. how can people be so dim?
never mind. oh, and it's a shitty piece of cartooning.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:25 AM
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4. The problem is the definition of CHANGE some like to use.
First of all, CHANGE means changing the person at the top, and we've done that.

Second, bringing back experienced people IS CHANGE. It's change from the past 8 years.

Third, what did they think, that Obama would bring in a bunch of Code Pinkers and former Naderites to run the government?

I consider all the "change" criticisms to be made of the same erroneous cloth - an excuse to wail about some real or imagined insult.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:55 AM
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10. I agree that your definition of change is highly problematical.
I and quite a few other people think of change in terms of substantial differences down at the delivery end, not pro-forma changes in who signs the order.

I'm surprised that you don't.
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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:56 PM
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21. I think this addresses your concern:
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:25 PM
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24. A range of competing opinions from centrist to middle-of-the-road..
Didn't someone once say that the only thing in the middle of the road is yellow lines and dead armadillos?

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TexasObserver Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:45 PM
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25. Obama IS the progressive opinion.
He and Hillary both have similar voting records. They're in the 65-75% progressive range.

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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Dec-03-08 05:00 AM
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26. It's worse than that, even: far right to center right
How can anyone who supports stealing from innocent people and killing them if they resist be anything other than rightwing?
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fasttense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 06:27 AM
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5. But honestly in republicon bushie world, experience is change.
Look at all the inexperienced, inept, incompetent cronies he put into positions of power. From Monica Goodling, who didn't know the difference between an oath to the Constitution or an oath to bushie, to Heck of a Job Brownie, whose vast experience with Arabian Horses made him the perfect choice to deal with sudden disasters, if experience was a consideration we all missed out on it.
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:01 AM
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7. Thanks for the cartoon.
Some of us got it -- it's called truth to power. Remember that? ;-)
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 07:18 AM
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8. Chuck Asay? Who's next --Bruce Tinsley?
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:48 AM
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9. I don't even know who Tinsley is. Asay is the only rw cartoonist I read
and I do that because occasionally -rarely, but occasionally- he has something real to say.

And since I'm just an ordinary fat old broad, I can look at things like his cartoons without worrying that they'll suddenly dissolve my lifelong politics or maybe make me wet myself in terror.

He's only an artist, not a god.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:54 AM
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13. There are many rw cartoonists of very high quality.
Asay, like Bruce Tinsley of "Mallard Fillmore" fame, is a bit more whiney than I can stand.

Michael Ramirez and Chip Bok are very good:

http://cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/ramirez.asp
http://cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/bok.asp

Nate Beeler can be amusing:
http://cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/beeler.asp

and Gary Varvel:
http://cagle.com/politicalcartoons/PCcartoons/varvel.asp

In my view, a good political cartoonist needs to avoid being preachy. They also need to know how to lay out a panel. Asay lacks both.
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Alter Ego Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 08:58 AM
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11. Wow thats like totally hi-larious brah
You should totally be a stand-up comic
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:01 AM
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12. I didn't draw it. Or didn't you realize that?
Here's another toon - this time from Brazil. What's the message here? Is that meant to be Bush he's standing on?

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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:46 AM
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15. Standing on? No. Keeping out of the spotlight? Yes.
Bushing is fighting for attention as the lame duck, and no one is giving it to him.
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mdmc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:26 AM
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14. we would have had change on 1-20-08
McCain would have been change for the better.
Obama is change for the better.
Barr or Nader might have been radical change.

Change is just a marketing scheme.
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Buzz Clik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 10:48 AM
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16. I guess Asay (and the other whiners) wanted Obama to appointed a bunch of nameless 20-somethings.
The ones who ran his local campaigns, I guess.
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Romulox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 03:26 PM
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18. I'd settle for a couple of non DLC/center/right types in his cabinet.
:shrug:
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 04:29 PM
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19. Ain't that the truth!
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RedCappedBandit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:05 PM
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22. Funny toon imo..
Obama won't change the things i'd like to see changed, but i'm glad to see him in office. Being 21, I have lived in a country with a bush in office for the majority of my life. I'm ecstatic to see someone with intelligence and apparent integrity lead my home.
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rockymountaindem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Dec-02-08 09:08 PM
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23. Get that dumbass Asay out of here
He's my hometown "cartoonist" and totally full of shit all the time.
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