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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:35 AM
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"Crime and punishment", Obama should investigate possible war criminals
on bush team By Joseph Galloway.

With two months still to go before his inauguration as the 44th President of the United States, Barack Obama and his transition team are already getting off on the wrong foot, signaling that they have no intention of investigating anyone in the Bush administration for possible war crimes.

What we're talking about here is the torture of detained terrorist suspects in American custody in a grotesque violation of both our treaty obligations under the Geneva Conventions and our historic principles as a democratic nation.

By their own machinations and attempts to redefine and pervert both treaties and our own laws, President Bush, Vice President Dick Cheney, former Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld, Attorneys General John Ashcroft and Alberto Gonzales, Cheney's chief of staff David Addington and any number of lesser suspects sought to shield themselves from, or put themselves above, justice.

They did so knowing full well that what they were doing — clearing the way for interrogators at Guantanamo and in the Central Intelligence Agency’s secret dungeons around the world to do anything it took, short of murder, to extract information from terror suspects.


Either we prosecute, or the world community will, and that could get very nasty. I'd rather they face American justice, you know, the type the bush junta denied their victims.
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HysteryDiagnosis Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:42 AM
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1. They can remove the "possible" from the statement above. n/t
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:48 AM
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3. We know it is certain, but until they are stood before a judge their crimes
will have to be alleged, or "possible."
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Sarah Ibarruri Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 11:43 AM
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2. I spend my days hoping this. If we allow war criminals to go unpunished, this WILL happen again nt
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RC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 12:57 PM
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4. We will have to let the world take care of our criminals.
Edited on Sun Nov-23-08 12:58 PM by RC
If Obama or anyone in his government tries, they will be suicided. Bet on it.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:44 AM
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8. That's why the world courts wait to see if the host country has the
ability or the will to punish their own.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 01:16 PM
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5. Congress and the AG should investigate and Obama should do his job
and stay out of the way. The President does not tell Congress what to investigate or who to prosecute.
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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 07:08 PM
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7. The charges do not have to come from Washington. State AG's could get
the ball rolling if they have any standing.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-23-08 01:20 PM
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6. Agreed 100%
K & R
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Solly Mack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 11:52 AM
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9. That's what keeps me up at night (I'm dead serious)
The thought of Bush Inc getting away with their crimes. America - Where war criminals are given jobs at respected universities instead of jail time. Where war criminals get to live their lives out in peace. Where war criminals are still considered a valuable asset.

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alfredo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 03:27 PM
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10. The international courts will step in sooner or later.
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ihavenobias Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-24-08 03:30 PM
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11. K & R, (well, just a K since I missed this and the eligibility to rec expired)
Edited on Mon Nov-24-08 03:30 PM by ihavenobias
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