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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:40 PM
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Turley on KO re this blanket pardon discussion
I dare Bush to pardon all of them - because war crimes are war crimes.
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xiamiam Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:42 PM
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1. are they outside of any pardon he could grant?
Edited on Mon Nov-17-08 08:43 PM by xiamiam
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:48 PM
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6. I'd have to read more on the subject
but Turley says he'd have to name each of them for starters and that could have international implications - war crimes. Says if Bush pardoned himself it would be 100 times worse than Clinton pardoning his brother.
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jwirr Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:51 PM
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8. War crimes are against the Geneva Convention rules - can he even
pardon anyone FOR the world community? The WWII crimes were tried by a world court.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:52 PM
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10. No that he cannot do
Bush should be in chains.
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TomInTib Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:44 PM
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2. I thought it was interesting when he said that Bush would have to identify the crimes.
If he does, he will have outlined his "legacy".
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:48 PM
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7. He would also be telling the world
and he would have to name names - to the Hague.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:44 PM
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3. And if he does lets remember to rimind the Neocons
that Obama will have those same powers! That would make their heads spin.
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fascisthunter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:45 PM
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4. He doesn't need to
no Dem will even try to hold him accountable, and if one tries, this party leadership will destroy them politically.
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kenny blankenship Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:47 PM
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5. I don't think courts or US attys should be bound to respect a "blanket" pardon
a blanket pardon is a meaningless pardon. Anyone accused of any crime whatsoever should claim that they are covered by this "pardon", since they were acting for the defense of the American people. One absurd claim is as good as another.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 08:51 PM
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9. I don't see how you can pardon people who have not been
charged for a crime - what will he call them - preemptive pardons?
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AndyTiedye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-17-08 09:10 PM
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11. Ford Gave Nixon a Blanket Pardon
Ford pardoned Nixon for all crimes he might possibly have ever committed, without specifying any of them.

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