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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:58 AM Original message |
Why "Gay Marriage" as the #1 issue? |
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Muttocracy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
1. you mean as the #1 gay civil rights issue? nt |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:31 PM Response to Reply #1 |
29. Yes. And I mean historically, i.e. starting 8 years ago. |
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Starry Messenger (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
2. This is a good start. |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:50 PM Response to Reply #2 |
34. This explains the immediate issue, but not the historic one. |
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verges (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
37. Just a theory, but... |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:44 PM Response to Reply #2 |
49. P.S. Thank you for respecting the sincerity of my question. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:00 AM Response to Original message |
3. Because it was denied to people who deserved it, and pissed thinking |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:01 AM Response to Original message |
4. Equal protection under the LAW. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:02 AM Response to Original message |
5. Because until a better congress is seated, there's not much hope with the latter. |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:53 PM Response to Reply #5 |
35. Is it "Congress" or the President and the Supreme Court? |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #35 |
40. Replacing DOMA. |
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LeftyMom (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:04 AM Response to Original message |
6. And what's with the fucking scare quotes? |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:38 PM Response to Reply #6 |
33. I'm sorry - I went to bed before I had time to change it. |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
7. are there laws that say gays are allowed to be fired, harassed, evicted , segregated ? |
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meowomon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:08 AM Response to Reply #7 |
10. Yes, in the right to work states |
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Quantess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:05 AM Response to Original message |
8. Who said it's the #1 issue? Not me. Gay marriage is not even in my top 10. |
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kenny blankenship (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:07 AM Response to Original message |
9. #1 issue? |
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tblue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:08 AM Response to Original message |
11. Because it is a legal right that is being taken away. |
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LaStrega (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
12. I think the ban being written literally into the state's constitution ... |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:18 AM Response to Reply #12 |
16. True. Actually enacting laws to take away rights, like the DOMA |
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last1standing (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:10 AM Response to Original message |
13. If you're going to call me out, at least have the decency to link my post. |
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Newsjock (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:11 AM Response to Original message |
14. We didn't make it the #1 issue |
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trashcanistanista (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:46 AM Response to Reply #14 |
19. Bingo. |
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enigmatic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:50 AM Response to Reply #14 |
20. you get it |
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JI7 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:02 AM Response to Reply #14 |
25. right, it's the gay bashers who put up the rights of people for a vote in the states |
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racaulk (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:10 PM Response to Reply #14 |
43. ***Best reply of this thread!*** |
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yardwork (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:22 PM Response to Reply #14 |
45. That's correct. The religious right made gay marriage an issue |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:42 PM Response to Reply #14 |
48. More questions. |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:12 AM Response to Original message |
15. Discrimination in mariage is easy to identify - just try getting married if you are gay. |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:58 PM Response to Reply #15 |
53. If the obviousness is the reason, it makes a lot of sense - thank you. |
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Historic NY (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:36 AM Response to Original message |
17. cause the only other thing is abortion.... |
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Cerridwen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:40 AM Response to Reply #17 |
18. 'Cause the "only other thing" is women's autonomy. n/t |
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ContinentalOp (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
21. All in favor of revoking qwlauren35's right of free speech say "aye" |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #21 |
52. I'd trade free speech for a job and the economy any day. |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:52 AM Response to Original message |
22. This is an HONEST answer: human rights are inextricably tied to jobs, housing, |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:31 PM Response to Reply #22 |
47. Exactly, Heidi. I agree. nt |
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Bluebear (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:00 AM Response to Original message |
23. Another "HONEST" question: what's with the obnoxious quotation marks around "gay marriage"? |
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Heidi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:57 AM Response to Reply #23 |
24. :thumbsup: |
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terrya (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 07:01 AM Response to Reply #23 |
28. It's a part of that elusive "equality" thing that those pushy gay people are whining about. |
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Zuiderelle (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
30. Like how McCain put air quotes around "Women's Health" |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:33 PM Response to Reply #23 |
31. I'll take them out. |
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gollygee (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #23 |
32. How many anti-same-sex marriage talking point threads have we had lately? |
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TexasObserver (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:23 AM Response to Original message |
26. Because real gay rights will require a Supreme Court ruling. |
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lligrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 05:45 AM Response to Original message |
27. It Wasn't Gay Marriage Per Se |
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hunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:22 PM Response to Original message |
36. Who knows? Maybe because some big religion throws you under the train next? |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:37 PM Response to Original message |
38. Do you understand how many rights and privileges automatically come with marriage? |
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qwlauren35 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:54 PM Response to Reply #38 |
50. Yes, I do. It's a huge list. |
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NMMNG (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 04:05 PM Response to Reply #50 |
51. If they do business in the state, and a person is employeed in the state |
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jmg257 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:45 PM Response to Original message |
39. Because some dickhead thought it would be fun to make basic rights a popularity contest. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 01:54 PM Response to Original message |
41. OP is inaccurate, btw. |
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Karenina (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
42. It would sure be nice if Amuikkka addressed the rights of her own |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:13 PM Response to Original message |
44. I'm glad this issue is getting exposure.... |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-17-08 03:31 PM Response to Original message |
46. Because civil rights denied for some are civil rights under threat for all |
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