Yes on 8 attempting to threaten and intimidate Supreme Court

[cboy4]

Ted Costa: State high court throwing out Prop. 8 sure to lead to recall effort

November 11, 2008


The California Supreme Court's surprising announcement that it will quickly review the legality of Proposition 8, banning gay marriage, has prompted growing speculation that the four judges who found a right to gay marriage in the state Constitution in a May ruling will quickly throw Prop. 8 out. If that happens, watch out for a "barn-burner of an election -- the biggest thing this state has ever seen," says recall election guru Ted Costa.

Costa says he's already been contacted by some of the folks who would seek to recall Ronald George, Joyce Kennard, Kathryn Werdegar and Carlos Moreno if Prop. 8 is scrapped. He thinks it's premature and risky because talk of a recall "would just (bleep) off the judges."

Costa also doesn't sound like he's too thrilled about such a recall, saying it wouldn't be "healthy." Citing all the financial turmoil in California, he said, "If someone's going to do some recalling, that should be the focus."

But Costa sounds certain such a recall would happen and agreed that it would be no problem at all for gay marriage opponents to quickly gather the signatures of 12 percent of the electorate to force a recall election targeting George, Kennard, Werdegar and Moreno. He said supporters of Prop. 8 such as the Knights of Columbus, the Mormon Church and other traditional religious groups all had "massive" resources to bring to bear.

http://weblog.signonsandiego.com/weblogs/afb/archives/029060.html

[cboy4]

1. Wow, Costa is calling on the Mormon and Catholic churches to

be involved in extortion.

Fascinating.

[Mz Pip]

2. "Massive resources"

Hmmm, could these groups be a source to the end of our enormous deficits? How about an amendment ending their damm tax exemption statu??

[morillon]

4. I am SO there with you.

If they're gonna get all political like, then they should be paying taxes like the rest of us.

[Mz Pip]

6. there must be some group

with good lawyers who can draft a proposition ending tax exemptions for churches. At least it would force the churces to spend their resources defending their dumb ass positions rather than politicizing discrimination.

Time to take their money.

[davidinalameda]

3. bring it on!

I think that most people would see this for the power play it is

I think that the US Supreme Court would support anything that the California Supreme Court decides

[FreeState]

5. The Yes on 8 Campaign has already been using extortion to get money from No Supporters

http://cbs8.com/story.php?id=144185

[cboy4]

9. Yea, they'll stop at nothing.

They want a war.

Unfortunately for them, they're going to have one.

[FreeState]

12. As I like to say - never piss off gay people

we know how to fight because unfortunately thats what most of us have had to do as a survival mechanism most of our lives.

[cboy4]

14. Yea, they don't get it.

"why are teh gays so mad?" :eyes:

Fools.

[ShadowLiberal]

7. This is exactly why recalls and ballot initiatives are stupid and dangerous

Seriously, this just shows the danger of letting voters vote on anything they want to.

The problem is voters want too many contradictory things. You can't have both tax cuts and free health care, yet if you put it on the ballot voters would approve it, so what if the numbers don't add up.

Recalls are also stupid. I remember when I used to watch candid camera back when the recall of the last CA governor happened. Candid Camera did an experiment with their people trying to get signatures to get a bunch of unknown people recalled (and their own people collecting the signatures even pretended to know nothing about them, saying stuff like "oh we can figure that out later" when asked what party the person was). The sad truth their humorous sketch showed is that it's very easy to get people to sign petitions to recall anyone who they know nothing about.

[msongs]

8. yes hijacking the state in the name of the jesus superstitions - extortion indeed nt

[slackmaster]

10. I've been saying since Election Day that this would happen

It's inevitable. Neither side is willing to take "No" for an answer.

The only way to solve this is at the federal level, and that will require winning over peoples' hearts and minds. Getting a majority of California voters on the correct side of the issue would be a good start.

[kevinbgoode]

11. Nothing like religious tyranny.

Of course they are going to try a recall. But one thing I don't understand is why the gay couples, who are members of other churches, haven't tried to sue the pants off of these wingnut "religious" groups for interfering with THEIR right to worship.

I also do not understand why the gay community ALWAYS plays defense. They should have slapped half a dozen amendments on the ballot derecognizing these nutcase churches.

This will be a move by the religious Right to take over the California government. I highly doubt the legislature will stand idly by as that unfolds.

By the way. . .someone needs to correct Costa. The LDS is NOT a "traditional" religious group. And the Knights of Columbus should be spending more time helping the victims of their crazy church's criminal child predator escapade.

[AntiFascist]

13. HA, just because they can't get good lawyers...

now they have to resort to bullying the judges.

Won't Schwarzeneggar just appoint other judges who have a similar mindset (since he has come out very much in support of OVERTURNING Prop 8?) Also, the CA bar association supports the effort to overturn Prop 8 and is in favor of the gay marriage decision. Don't they also have a say in appointment of new judges?

Imagine if really liberal judges got appointed as replacements.

[FreeState]

18. They are appointed and elected in CA every 12 years

After justices are appointed, they are subject to a retention vote at the next general election, and thereafter at twelve-year intervals.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supreme_Court_of_California

However by time they get this on a ballot Schwarzenegger may well not be Governor any longer (2010).

[Monk06]

15. If they try a recall Arnuld will end up being governator-for-life.

[RedCappedBandit]

16. Do these groups pay taxes?

[cboy4]

17. The tax exempt religious groups absolutely do not pay taxes

which is a huge problem.

They're violating their 501(c) status by getting politically involved.