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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:49 PM
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I had 2 Mormons knock at my door yesterday.
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 12:56 PM by Are_grits_groceries
I let them talk for about a minute, and then I interrupted. I told them that I had read about a lot of religions including theirs.
I had considered it one of the many of the different religions in this country. I told them I had had a big change of mind after
the Prop 8 vote in CA.

I said since their religion had made it a point to get in my business, I was now going to do my best to get in theirs. I was going to start
by writing God and everybody to ask that their tax exempt status be removed. I also reported them to Homeland Security because I believed
they were trying to subvert the Constitution and turn America into a theocracy.

I also said that I had contacted a lawyer and the FBI to have any info about me removed from their genealogical project. I said I thought
their claim to want to retroactively baptize people was a front to collect info for nefarious purposes. I wanted every syllable about me and
my family removed from their records.

Then I told them to get their magic underwear wearing, gold plate believing, Osmond listening, Oz temple going, skinny necktie wearing selves off
my doorstep and never come back. If they did I would have them arrested for trespassing, and I was going to call local law enforcement right then
to report them as weird looking, neat people who were spying on the city and might be up to no good. They should be checked to see if they had any
gasoline and fertilizer residue on them.

At least I didn't cuss at them.
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BR_Parkway Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:52 PM
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1. good for you, i'm tired of being nice to people like this when they sure
as hell aren't nice to me or mine
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:52 PM
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2. Well, at least you didn't cuss.
That's a sign of a well brought-up individual. :rofl:
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:55 PM
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4. Meh! I was raised right and I didn't want Mama to haunt me. nt
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:01 PM
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34. My mama would have haunted me, too, if I'd been nice to
them. Good on you for speaking up.
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Haole Girl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:53 PM
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3. lol!
That's great! I especially loved the part about having their tax exempt status removed. Hit 'em where it hurts!!

:yourock:

:applause: :applause: :applause:
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IndianaJones Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:56 PM
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5. this is religious intolerance. nt.
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:10 PM
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10. Bullshit....
by engaging in political acts, they opened themselves up to having their tax exempt status investigated. In fact, we need to start doing this to all religious groups that engage in political activity. It is funny, though, how intolerant groups claim intolerance when they are questioned- no wonder most fit so well with the right wing agenda.
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ItsTheMediaStupid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:18 PM
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68. The IRA under the Bush regime persecuted left leaning churches
I used to go to a Unitarian-Universalist church and they were extrememly careful of what they said from the pulpit.
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LiberalEsto Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:00 PM
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74. Still are
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awoke_in_2003 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:16 AM
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112. Got nothing against any religion...
and especially the U-U, as they seem to be well centered and don't get involved in politics. But when one religion (Mormons) go out of their way to fund a political movement, it is time to go after that tax exempt status. We are a nation built on secular laws, and religion needs to be kept in its place. Who knows, one day the fundies might start cozying up with the left- but it will still be wrong.
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ContinentalOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:18 PM
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16. LOL. Yeah, because they were just innocently minding their own business...
ON HIS FRONT PORCH!
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:40 PM
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21. No, Prop 8 is religious intolerance
Telling proselytizers off is simply a perfectly reasonable reaction to someone trying to convert you
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helderheid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:03 PM
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37. INDEED.
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:41 PM
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22. Hahahahahah ah aha hah ahahha aha hah ahahhaa hha! Duzy!
Oh wait, were you serious?
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:42 PM
Response to Reply #22
24. As a heart attack!
(I didn't call the police on them though. I think they were in shock.)
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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:47 PM
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28. No, no -- I was responding to the "religious intolerance" post.
I like your response. :)
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Occulus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:43 PM
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25. Or it would be, if there was a religion in question. n/t
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:46 PM
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91. LOL! I shouldn't laugh - but that was good.
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enki23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:08 PM
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39. Now there's some bullshit.
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 02:12 PM by enki23
I hate Republicans, because they align themselves with an organization and a set of beliefs that obviously and directly serves to increase human misery. Is every Republican equally culpable for the misery their organization causes? No. Some are simply ignorant of the pain they cause, or too stupid to understand it. I hate them less, in proportion to their ignorance. Their existance makes me hate their organization, and their leaders even more. The guilt of the Republican Party runs deeper for its knowing exploitation of that ignorance.

And if they occasionally do some good too? So what? Their "faith" doesn't exist to increase what good they might do, but to excuse the evil. Good needs no religion, and requires no excuse. It's the evil we do that we seek to explain, to paint it with virtue using heavy strokes of holy bullshit.

I feel the same way about the fucking Dobsonites, and the right-wing pentecostal asshoes, and the Mormon fucking church...
and the would be witch killer Reverend motherfucking Muthee...
and Franklin fucking Graham,
and Pat fucking Robertson,
and the late Jerry fucking Falwell,
and the execrable con artist who wrote "The Secret,"
and David trying-to-bring-back-Polio Kirby,
and John fucking-the-memory-of-the-departed Edward,
and Sylvia the-fucking-bloodsucker Browne,
and all their priests, and all their acolytes,

And every other filth feeder sucking at the sores of humanity that digs his claws in to harm the cause of human rights and dignity, who causes people to suffer because he "believes" in some invisible bullshit more important to him than the very real people he hurts. I hate any and all of these assholes who excuse the harm they do by laying it at the feet of a sky pixie deity, bogey man, or mystical fucking vibration.

And yet, I don't want any harm to come to any of them. I don't want to stop them from marrying who they love. I don't want to stop them from reading the books they want to read. I don't want to stop them from worshiping the bullshit they want to worship. I just want to make goddamned sure they have no power to force the rest of us to live as though their bullshit were real.
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Toasterlad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:15 PM
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40. "And yet, I don't want any harm to come to any of them."
You're a better person than me, my friend.

The things I wish for them would get me banned in two seconds flat if I expressed them...as well as probably getting me added to some dumb federal "watch" list.

Every time I think about religious leaders, I think of the song "Alas for You" from Godspell:

"Searching for souls and fools to forsake them
You travel the land, you scour the sea
After you've got your converts you make them
Twice as fit for hell
As you are yourselves"
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mitchtv Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:15 PM
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61. I bit my tongue , too
I harbor dark desires for them. Being slow on the draw, when they came to my garage last year, all I could think of was "keep moving".I did tell the JW's that they were heretics and should leave the premises
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Leftist Agitator Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:34 PM
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43. Nice avatar, Dr. Jones.
I suppose that tolerance for bigots is OK? Isn't that what you said the other day, the you were no apologist for a bigot and homophobe like Robert Byrd? Why are you apologizing for Mormon bigotry?

:shrug:
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:40 PM
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50. BS. Let's call religion what it is: superstition.
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 03:46 PM by stopbush
There's nothing wrong with being intolerant of superstition when it asserts that it is fact based and tries to impose itself on people's lives.

The simple fact - FACT! - is that religionists have no more right to assert themselves and their fantasy based beliefs in the public square to determine matters like gay marriage than do astrologers and psychics. They are ALL residents of the same world of make believe.

It's superstition. It's make believe created by Bronze Aged, fearful and ignorant (not stupid) people. It's BULLSHIT.

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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:39 PM
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65. No, Religion is BULLSHIT. It is NOT superstition. This is Broken Mirror Intolerance
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stopbush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:17 AM
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100. Religion is superstition.
1. Not proof whatsoever that supernatural beings exist
2. No proof whatsoever that Jesus ever existed. No mention of him in the historic record. None.
3. No proof for the existence of any of the famous personages in the OT
4. No proof of miracles, sun standing still, star in the east, people coming back from the dead, people being cured through miracles. Absolutely no proof at all.
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:18 AM
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105. Yes, I totally agree
I was being sarcastic when I said "This is Broken Mirror Intolerance".

Religion even gives superstition a bad name.

Take a look at the "predictive models" generated by science and math. They are nearly 100% accurate. They have been used to put a man on the moon.

Now, consider the predictive models generated by Religion. Oops. never true.

Religion is worse than stupidstition, it is pure bullshit.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:34 PM
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125. But I still don't see what that has to do with Mormons and Prop 8.
Your opinion of all religion would seem to be beside the point. Bullshit or not, it's the actions of SOME churches that was wrong, specifically in this thread the Mormon Church. Other churches also stood up and opposed the proposition.

Any group can stand up and stick their noses anywhere they like. However, I do agree that if any church becomes political in this way, they should lose their tax exempt status.
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Ladyhawk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:51 PM
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93. Religion is bunk. - Thomas Edison (and I agree) nt
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TWiley Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:19 AM
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106. as do I Ms. Ladyhawk
I was attempting to be sarcastic with the "this is broken mirror intolerance" as if religion even gives superstition a bad name.

Nice tailfeathers btw !
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Caretha Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:18 AM
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108. Religion is big business
that uses superstition to influence the rubes.
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LittleClarkie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:28 PM
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124. I don't see where your opinion of religion in general...
...has much to do with the support of SOME churches to Proposition 8. The discussion isn't about whether religion is bullshit, but whether some religions need to get their face out of your business.

And indeed they do.
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:24 PM
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128. well, in this case
It's make-believe created by nineteenth century, fearful and ignorant people. Let's keep our facts straight here. :)
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:53 PM
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53. ...


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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:27 PM
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75. Excellent cartoon.
That is EXACTLY what is happening too. :applause:
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elshiva Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:30 PM
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85. Great cartoon.
:)
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Hong Kong Cavalier Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:36 PM
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120. Along those same lines...
One of my favorites.

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Obamarama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:11 PM
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58. Bullshit! Bullshit, bullshit, bullshit. It's intolerance of Joseph Smith, Inc.
When they start paying taxes, I'll shut my mouth.
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:41 PM
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69. And that's what we need -- less tolerance of this phony "religion" n/t
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:54 PM
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81. Oooooh! Not religious intolerance!
Ooooh, it would be just AWFUL if one group were intolerant of another!

:eyes:


At least the poster didn't try to take away their rights!
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Marrah_G Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:50 AM
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110. .....................bullshit
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Le Taz Hot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:58 AM
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111. The next time one of these mother fuckers comes on MY
property they're going to be staring down the barrel of a shotgun! Not loaded, of course, but I'll put the fear of JAYSUS in them so none of these vermin ever knock on my door again.

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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:24 PM
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115. You're kidding, right?
what should be done, then?
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:33 PM
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118. Why should we respect them when they actively worked against civil rights?
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SammyWinstonJack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:29 PM
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130. Religion IS intolerant. Well organized religion is, for sure.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:56 PM
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6. Bwaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaah!
They shouldn't be back.
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Double T Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 12:56 PM
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7. What if THEY were subversives that actually supported your position on Proposition 8?
Sounds like THEY didn't get the chance to respond to your position and threats; so what the hell was ACCOMPLISHED?
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keepCAblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:16 PM
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14. They are there REPRESENTING the MORMON CHURCH
Any "rogue" mor(m)on who doesn't side with the church on the prop 8 issue, yet still stays with the church and is out actively recruiting people to join their church deserves every bit of venom they get.
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Chulanowa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:38 PM
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19. No chance
LDS missionaries - the people who come to your door - are carefully vetted by the LDS church to make sure they adhere to church policies. It wouldn't make much sense to send out "subversives" to represent and attempt to spread the religion, after all
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MrsMatt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:18 PM
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63. want to bet?
before I was married, I roommed with a "jack morman" - his brother was a BISHOP, albeit closeted. Once it became common knowledge, he was excommunicated.

My roommate, by the way, was bisexual, and frequently moved in order to evade the dreaded knock at the door from the missionaries his mother would sic on him (he and I would hole up in his room with the coffee pot when we'd get a visit from the Mormans).
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rhett o rick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 10:15 PM
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84. Good point. And what if pigs could fly. I am thinking you are missing the whole point. nm
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Mz Pip Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:00 PM
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8. I think that would be my reaction also.
We have a Mormon family down the street. We are not friends but have been on friendly terms. Their son and our son were best freinds for years and our's was best man at their son's wedding (he was the only one who semed to escape from the church). They had their Yes on 8 signs all over their yard. It's going to make it very difficult for me to even say hi anymore.

We've lived in this neighborhood for over 20 years and it's a pretty diverse neighborhood. I find it bizarre that they would think the 2 gay families that live on our street are in any way a threat to their family.
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AllyCat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:52 PM
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44. I hope you are not advocating physical harm. That's wrong
Violence is not going to solve anything.
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lonestarnot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:13 PM
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11. Son of a bitch!
You did good! :applause:
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:14 PM
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12. It's not a threat. It's a promise.
I am not going to even start a theological argument with them. Their church has made it perfectly clear with their
money how they feel. If the Shout and Shoot Evangelical Lamb of God church near me preaches every Sunday against
homosexuality and want to pray for my soul, I say get your knee pads out. They don't get in my business, and I don't
get in theirs. We uneasily coexist. They go beyond that, then I will change my mind about them too.

If the Mormons are so willing to to use their money in this instance, why do you trust them not to bankroll something else.
I hope I accomplished the fact that somebody was going to speak truth to money. As for as subversives on my side, I feel like
I have been a subversive for years after the way the Bush admin has acted. This is an "underground."
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panader0 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:15 PM
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13. I'm no backer of the Mo's
but, I gotta admit, this magic underwear thing sounds pretty interesting...........
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:16 PM
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15. The sight of a wild haired, homicidal night nurse
who had just been awakened, shrieking "THIS PLACE BETTER BE ON FIRE!" seems to have discouraged the godly permanently.

I have not been troubled by door knockers of any flavor for over 10 years.

If you want to get rid of them, hire a night nurse to sleep on your sofa over the weekend. Just clear off for that weekend so you don't wake up a rabid night nurse by mistake.
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crickets Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:33 PM
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17. Bwahaha! Best laugh of the day. -nt
:rofl:
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:41 PM
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23. hahahaha... I've ben that maniacal night shift nurse!
do NOT interrupt our sleep!! pitbull, shmitbull..
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Jamastiene Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 06:31 PM
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76. DUzy!
:spray:
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semillama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:28 PM
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129. I've also seen the success of a large, hairy shirtless tattoo artist in that regard
My friend Ted was quite successful in turning away a Mormon simply through his appearance. I guess a wild-eyed bearded and dreaded man covered in tattoos and piercings doesn't seem like a good prospect...
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medeak Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:37 PM
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18. You will never have them back again
your house is "marked" just like the gypsies do. ;-)
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:39 PM
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20. My pentacle shaped door knocker should have been a clue. nt
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sarcasmo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:39 PM
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64. Where can I get one of those?
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cboy4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:44 PM
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26. You should be ashamed of yourself.
(For not cussing at them also)

HA! ;)

Well done at the door. They need to start hearing it like it is.
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Hepburn Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:47 PM
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27. Delete
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 01:48 PM by Hepburn
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gaspee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:50 PM
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30. I have never
Seen Mormons in my city. Ever. Weird, huh?

I live in RI.

When they came to my house in San Francisco, I laughed at them. That's it, just pointed and laughed and called to my roommates -- hey look! It's MORMONS! And then started laughing again.

Funny, they never came back.
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IndyOp Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:52 PM
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32. Magic underwear? Please do tell... (n/t)
:shrug:
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 01:55 PM
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33. Bill Maher calls it magic underwear.
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:20 PM
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41. Here's a picture of the "garments."


From wikipedia, and there's more information at that site.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:27 PM
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42. I bet it's not "Fruit of the Loom." nt
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japple Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:56 PM
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66. No, Fruit of the Looms don't have that special little jewel
sack feature.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:44 PM
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88. Or mystical smbols embroidered over the nipples. n/t
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:13 AM
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98. "ENDOWED church members can purchase garments
produced by Beehive at distribution centers worldwide." -Widipedia

:o
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:22 AM
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101. I guess that's why the drawers have that big pecker pouch--
to contain the endowment.
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Omnibus Donating Member (676 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:51 PM
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80. Looks uncomfortable.
How do they masturbate in that stuff?

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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:12 AM
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97. DUZY right here!
:rofl:

And welcome (a little late) to DU! :hi:
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Tallison Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:11 AM
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96. And the bra goes OVER the garment
:o No shit! Just read it on Wikipedia...
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:55 PM
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73. speechless
:wow:

Maybe I didn't read this correctly, but it sounds like they have only the one pair for life. Under the special circumstances in which they may remove the mormon underwear it did not list laundering. WTF? No one could make this stuff up no matter how hard they tried.
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lelgt60 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 09:53 AM
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113. no - they buy new underwear regularly
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:02 PM
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35. Is this Mormon recruiting "season"?
2 of 'em wandered down my long gravel drive last week. Cute young guys, 19-20, something like that.
My Golden Retriever does a good pit bull imitation at strangers when he is on the line by the house, so he was snarling and barking and lunging.
I walked up to the the guys, knowing who they were, raised my hand palm out and they stopped, Then I warned them that I could not be responsible if the dog chewed thru his rope,
last time he did it in 5 seconds, because he was too protective of me and had bitten the meter reader.
I suggested they might want to very slowly back up, don't turn their backs on the dog, just go up the street to some other house.
All the time the dog is really lunging and growling, snarling, hackles really raised.

The guys got very wide eyed, looked at each other, back tracked, and the last I saw of them they were walking up to the Presbyterian preacher's house next door.
Dog shut up the minute I told him to, as he always does. He is not the least bit ferocious.

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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:39 PM
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49. Ha, Ha..Ha your dog is a hero!
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:02 PM
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36. I request permission to use your post if and when the time comes.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:04 PM
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38. Feel free. Amend it all you want too! Glad to help! nt
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:55 PM
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45. Y'know? I adore you :)
I, too, was brought up "suthren" and to smile and "be nice". My mama's still alive, but the older we both get, the less tolerance we have for bullshit. I'm still the number-one-son, the one still living, the Democrat child of a strong Democrat and anything that looks like it's hatin' on that, mama will look the other way if I'm hatin' on it. I no longer care what I say to fanatics who trespass on my property despite "No Trespassing" and "No Soliciting" signs that are clearly and prominently posted up a long dirt drive to get here. I don't care what they're selling. Neither my partner or I will brook any "innocent" argument on "we're not soliciting/selling" anything.

BTW, I love your handle. It's one of my favorite expressions.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 02:58 PM
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46. It was either that "Sliced Bread."
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Bluenorthwest Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:00 PM
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47. An extra helping
of grits for you! Time to let them know how we see them for what they are.
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MadMaddie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:36 PM
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48. Good for you!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:42 PM
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51. Good for you! k+r, n/t
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:45 PM
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52. did they react?
say anything? wish i was there to see it.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:15 PM
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60. They just mumbled something about being sorry for
Edited on Sun Nov-09-08 04:25 PM by Are_grits_groceries
a misunderstanding. They were moving away so I didn't really hear.
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Duppers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:54 PM
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54. Wow! Good for you!
Bookmarked.

I'm going to write myself a note -- things I want to tell one of these delusional little hatemongers when they ring my bell next time.


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IndianaGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 03:56 PM
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55. Anything else?
I think you covered all the bases!

:-)
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onager Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:06 PM
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56. Mormons vs. Flying Invisible Baby Jesus
Mormon missionaries are all over the Czech Republic these days, along with other Christian brands. The Czechs mostly ignore them. According to the 2001 STEM survey, 48% of Czechs are atheist and more than 75% distrust religion.

Over at Austin Cline's atheism blog, I found this gripe from a Xian missionary posted to the Czech Republic:

Czech Christmas means that a flying invisible Baby Jesus delivers presents. Czech children have a similar feeling of letdown upon discovering that it is actually not Baby Jesus but Mom and Pop who are putting the presents under the tree.

The result is that I can read journals from my students that say "I believed in Jesus as a child" in the same way an American lad might bashfully remember believing in Santa Claus.

So if I tell Czechs I am a Christian, it is not something that smacks of intelligence to them. At worst, I am mocked in the way one might mock an adult who insisted on Santa Claus existing. At best, I may receive a pained expression of wanting to believe but wondering "how in the world do I believe in Santa Claus all over again, only this time as a personal God?"


http://atheism.about.com/b/2004/08/05/czech-republic-missionaries-having-trouble.htm


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zorahopkins Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:11 PM
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57. Good Good Good GOOD FOR YOU!
Good for you!

It's about time someone said something to those sactimonious bigots!
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:14 PM
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59. Release the HOUNDS!
You should have cussed them out. The prop 8 debacle removed what little tolerance I had for the mormon cult. War has been declared.
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 04:16 PM
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62. ROCK ON!!!!
W00t!
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FloridaJudy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:02 PM
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67. They've finally given up on me
They take one look at that four-foot high statue of Kwan Yin on the stoop, the Green Tara banner in my kitchen window, and the Tibetan prayer flags and they know I'm a lost cause and move on to easier pickings. All of which is good, because I'm way too pissed off to be polite to them after last week.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Nov-11-08 07:05 AM
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131. I'm surprised they recognized Sri Tara to start with
I have a shrine on my mantle plainly visible from the front door; always have. Never seemed to stop them. Moving out to the edge of the earth is the only thing that's slowed them down. AFAIC, there aren't any Mormons out here. Plenty of Amish and Mennonite and they don't proselytize and nobody else is much inclined. I haven't been pestered with door-knockers trying to "save" me (lost cause!). I think it might have something to do with this being a very rural county and everyone has hunting rifles :rofl:
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GinaMaria Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:43 PM
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70. holy crap
what did their faces look like after you launched that action plan at them? Nicely done. Way to stand up.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:51 PM
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72. They just look shocked. nt
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 05:44 PM
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71. The big problem with that
is that being "rejected" is a sign that they're doing God's work. It's the Christian Catch-22. If you listen to them it's a sign they're doing God's work. If you reject them, it's a sign they're doing God's work. Win-Win.
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bluedawg12 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:00 PM
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79. Kinda like the witch test- if she drowned she was innocent
if she didn't drown she was a witch and they would burn her.

Love the theocratic rules always designed to fight unfairly...in the name of "love." :sarcasm:
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NutmegYankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:09 AM
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95. So if I opened the door and maced 'em, God's work would be done?
How f'cking cool it that!




/sarcasm
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:16 AM
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99. Sadly, yeah -- in their minds
They would be treated as "martyrs" for the cause and it would be proof that you hate religion and were persecuting them. They would get major brownie points for it. It's a very perverse way of thinking.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:34 PM
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119. Maybe, but . . .
They are at least somewhat human, and when someone dashes a little reality in their face, they get it.
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havocmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:55 PM
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77. If I were a man...
I'd just kiss 'em on the mouth.
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Sheltiemama Donating Member (892 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 07:58 PM
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78. My father scares the Mormon boys.
They haven't tried to talk to us for a long time.

We have a neighbor who's a paranoid schizophrenic. He sits out on his front porch a lot. Sings along very loudly to gospel music. He loves it when the Mormons visit him. If they think they're going to convert him, good luck. I actually feel sorry for them when I see them heading over there, naive little things. Meanwhile, he's trying to convert them. I wish I could bug that front porch and hear those conversations.
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Coexist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:55 PM
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82. nice.
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Arugula Latte Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 08:55 PM
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83. Good for you! You are my kind of people!
:toast:
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femrap Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:40 PM
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86. The next time they come to my door
I'm going to borrow some of your lines, OK?

I still call them a cult.
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:42 PM
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87. I think somebody captured your meeting on video!!!!!
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nichomachus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:24 AM
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102. This is even a better encounter
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QC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:29 AM
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103. I love that movie. n/t
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:44 PM
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89. Well said k*r

Organized religion has no place in politics, not in this country. It's i the Constitution. It has
worked well so far. The founders of the country were not religious, as these later day imitators are.
They were Deists and spoke openly of alternative views of religion. Jefferson even wrote his own
version of the New Testament, excluding the inconsistencies, which he thought absurd.

Now the Mormon church has ended it's long ride of indulgence and opened itself up to scrutiny. It was
utterly foolish of them to do this. The move on their part was not only wrong on moral grounds, it
will turn out to be catastrophic for decades to come in terms of public image. They'll no longer
be those 'nice, sincere people who care about family' who come to your door with a strange proposition.
They're not shock troops for the moral majority.

I hope they're happy with their handy work. It's a Pyrrhic victory, no doubt about it.

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skooooo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:44 PM
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90. Their tax exempt status, imo, is what needs to be challenged.

They're going to believe what they want, but they don't have the right to influence elections without paying taxes.
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PinkoDonkey Donating Member (112 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:50 PM
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92. When the times comes...
...I just hope I'm able to say if half as good as you did.
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Nov-09-08 11:58 PM
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94. How do you find out if they have info on you in their genealogical project?
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 08:47 AM
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109. Google Mormons and genealogy and you'll get some links.
I'm trying to find out if what they let out is all they have.
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SweetAZ Donating Member (4 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:35 AM
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104. They Deserved every bit of it
Yes they did....Arrogant, hatefilled, ignorant people that they are.
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wroberts189 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 07:11 AM
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107. HA!!! You should have told them how you really felt and cuss'd eom
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Jester Messiah Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:16 PM
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114. That's not cool.
Mormons are among the least likely religionists to ever get violent against non-believers. They actually tout that "Intelligence is the glory of God" and encourage their members toward critical thinking. Just because many of them voted their religion, and that brought them into conflict with our values, does not mean that they are all homophobic bigots. Heck, an LDS columnist in the Salt Lake Tribune actually wrote a column against prop 8 (http://www.sltrib.com/ci_10798657), saying "What's more harmful to society - two well-dressed men getting married and settling down, or two idiots tying the knot and cranking out any number of additional idiots?"

Bottom line, don't respond to bigotry with more bigotry.
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:30 PM
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117. sorry - got no use for bigoted religion
And it matters little what one columnist writes when the church's official stand is so clear.
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TommyO Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:51 PM
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121. No, it's very cool
When a church organizes to remove a civil right, the deserve absolutely zero respect. PERIOD. The Catholic church also supported Prop 8 and deserves the same exact treatment.


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otohara Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 12:26 PM
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116. You Rock
they occasionally come by my house - may I use your response?
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 06:54 PM
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127. Use my response all you want, and change it if you need to! nt
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lelgt60 Donating Member (417 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:16 PM
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122. Wouldn't it be better for gay rights to discuss their position with them?
They're at your doorstep and want to come in. What better opportunity for you to explain your position to them? Most of these kids have never heard the other side. You can give them information that could change their lives and the lives of others around them.

Missionary work can be a two way street. Become a missionary for gay rights when they knock on your door.
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Are_grits_groceries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 03:36 PM
Response to Reply #122
126. Get real...
I'd have more luck trying to break rocks with my eyelashes. I'd rather use my time
doing something more constructive like writing elected officials or Mormon owned
businesses.
I don't understand their religion, but I wasn't messing with them. Soes I think
plenty of room. But noooooooooo, they have to get in my business and work on Prop 8.
Can't coexist peacefully if uneasily.
Funny how the most narrow minds want all the room.
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LanternWaste Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Nov-10-08 01:22 PM
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123. Much as I do to any...
Much as I do to any anyone who proselytizes at my front door-- including college-aged political canvassers-- who are usually the worst in their own little brand of secular witnessing.
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