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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:24 PM Original message |
There is no such thing as "religious" opposition to gay people or same sex marriage |
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Tikki (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:39 PM Response to Original message |
1. Here in my part of SoCal...there were many, many children standing... |
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shireen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
2. but not always a malicious bigotry |
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NoQuarter (532 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:00 PM Response to Reply #2 |
6. Willful ignorance. |
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MindPilot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:03 PM Response to Reply #2 |
8. Yeah that science thing has been so effective |
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amdezurik (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:42 PM Response to Original message |
3. seriously, who has said that stuff? |
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ismnotwasm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:53 PM Response to Original message |
4. I agree to a point |
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BlueJazz (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:00 PM Response to Original message |
5. The Religous People scare me. I can quote Sinclair Lewis about my Feelings. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:02 PM Response to Original message |
7. Who is to say that opposition cannot be simultaneously religious and bigoted? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:21 PM Response to Reply #7 |
16. some of each |
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Kazak (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:26 PM Response to Reply #7 |
17. Religiously masked bigotry. |
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PurityOfEssence (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:30 PM Response to Reply #7 |
23. There's a bizarre, commonly-held view that religion is inherently "good" |
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stray cat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:09 PM Response to Original message |
9. Is is possible that people are capable of forming independent bias and opinions |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:13 PM Response to Original message |
10. yes |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:14 PM Response to Original message |
11. I'm all for religion |
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bluedawg12 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:15 PM Response to Original message |
12. They're not "just words" they're dangerous. |
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bowens43 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:17 PM Response to Original message |
13. religion is by it's nature bigoted. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:48 PM Response to Reply #13 |
27. Lots of bigoted people on DU. |
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plaintiff (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
14. Well, yeah but doesn't the fact it is taught in churches...sorta make it 'religious'? |
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plaintiff (418 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:20 PM Response to Original message |
15. woops, delete dupe - something burped |
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robinlynne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:28 PM Response to Original message |
18. excellent. But many religions have been intolerant throughout history. |
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Strathos (713 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:29 PM Response to Original message |
19. A-Men |
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alarimer (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:55 PM Response to Original message |
20. I agree. |
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frebrd (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:31 PM Response to Original message |
21. As far as I'm concerned, if it's taught in churches it's religious.... |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:13 AM Response to Reply #21 |
38. amen! nt. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:45 PM Response to Original message |
22. You might have more luck starting with the idea that legally, marriages are not religious. |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:46 PM Response to Reply #22 |
26. Marriage is a religious ceremony. Common-law unions are secular. |
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Unvanguard (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:23 PM Response to Reply #26 |
31. Civil marriage is a civil matter, not a religious one. |
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electron_blue (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 05:24 PM Response to Reply #26 |
33. No - I know several people who were married who did not have a religious ceremony. |
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JerseygirlCT (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:43 PM Response to Original message |
24. And at the same time, let's not start assuming that religious = |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 03:45 PM Response to Original message |
25. So the objective on the No on 8 movement is to establish that religious beliefs are illegitimate? |
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ruggerson (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:01 PM Response to Reply #25 |
29. It's a free country, people are entitled to be bigots |
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TWiley (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:01 PM Response to Original message |
28. Tax the churches ... n/t |
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LeftCoast (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:09 PM Response to Original message |
30. The 'religious' opposition to same-sex marriage is the same as |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 04:25 PM Response to Original message |
32. I have to agree.... |
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LatteLibertine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 05:32 PM Response to Reply #32 |
34. Some faiths and religious leaders |
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AntiFascist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Let me give an example that doesn't involve bigotry necessarilly.... |
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EFerrari (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 05:35 PM Response to Original message |
35. I dunno. Spreading bs via church groups is a very efficient delivery system. |
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Duppers (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 12:09 AM Response to Original message |
37. NOT Religion? BULL !! >>>> Leviticus 18:22, 24 |
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Mnemosyne (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 01:04 AM Response to Reply #37 |
39. My humble theory is that when the Council of Nicea deliberated, |
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Laelth (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 07:04 PM Response to Original message |
40. If it's religious opposition, then fine. |
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Odin2005 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sun Nov-09-08 08:36 PM Response to Original message |
41. In this Atheist's opinion Religion and Bigotry are 2 sides of the same coin. |
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