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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:43 PM Original message |
Trying to put into words what disturbs me about the choice of Rahm as Chief of Staff |
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The Velveteen Ocelot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
1. A Chief of Staff isn't a policy position like a Cabinet member. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:48 PM Response to Reply #1 |
3. I don't think you grasped what I was saying. |
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ColbertWatcher (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:55 PM Response to Reply #3 |
9. I don't think that's a complete picture. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #9 |
18. I tend to see that if we don't speak up.... |
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Libertyfirst (583 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #18 |
42. And no one will listen to you if you don't understand the difference |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:53 PM Response to Reply #42 |
46. "purity is a nice standard for drinking water."? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:07 PM Response to Reply #42 |
59. No one listens to me anyway. |
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dflprincess (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:58 PM Response to Reply #59 |
70. I listen to you and I generally agree with you |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:09 PM Response to Reply #70 |
178. Thanks, that was nice. |
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emilyg (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:06 AM Response to Reply #59 |
75. I listen. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:36 AM Response to Reply #59 |
85. I listen |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:53 AM Response to Reply #85 |
86. And apparently Dean is not hearing a word. |
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magellan (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:44 AM Response to Reply #86 |
89. It's discouraging |
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Le Taz Hot (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:32 AM Response to Reply #59 |
103. Yes we do! |
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BlueJac (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #59 |
109. I hear you and agree we you....... |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:35 AM Response to Reply #59 |
111. What dflprincess is saying applies to me too |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:15 AM Response to Reply #59 |
118. I also listen....and agree about Rahm. |
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ensho (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:35 PM Response to Reply #59 |
207. I listen, I always listen and do alot of recc and replying |
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Dr.Phool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:27 AM Response to Reply #42 |
79. I don't think that you understand that the CofS is the gate keeper. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:18 AM Response to Reply #79 |
105. I remember those hearings on TV all afternoon. They guarded Nixon well. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:10 PM Response to Reply #3 |
29. I think it's too early to say that |
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Leopolds Ghost (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #1 |
157. When did support for MIGRANT WORKER PROGRAMS become Progressive?!? |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:46 PM Response to Original message |
2. I Agree with You |
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tigereye (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:32 PM Response to Reply #2 |
38. yes, centrists and moderates are never involved in anything good that |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 05:47 PM Response to Reply #38 |
153. sorry the bad outways the good... take a look at our economy |
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Metta (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:49 PM Response to Original message |
4. Thanks. I, too, find his policies and reasons troubling and karmically unprofitable. |
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stillcool (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:50 PM Response to Original message |
5. I think I'll wait for another fish to fry... |
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Mari333 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:51 PM Response to Original message |
6. He will be pretty much second in command |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:54 PM Response to Reply #6 |
7. Rahm literally told the candidates not to discuss Iraq at all. |
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John K (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:29 PM Response to Reply #6 |
182. Please understand how the government works before making incorrect statements |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
8. One day and we're out for blood? I know he fights/fought with |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:57 PM Response to Reply #8 |
11. Who is out for blood? Is that how you took my post? |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:01 PM Response to Reply #11 |
17. Did I say you shouldn't speak? Are you posting, hoping no one will |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #17 |
21. You said I was "out for blood". That is not fair to me. |
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John K (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:32 PM Response to Reply #11 |
183. Speak up all you want, but don't we even give him a weeks honeymoon |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:28 PM Response to Reply #8 |
37. That is a fucking joke " getting them to move from the left to the middle"??? |
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redqueen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:27 AM Response to Reply #37 |
110. Yeah, that comment is pretty telling. (nt) |
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kath (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:12 PM Response to Reply #8 |
60. "He is going to spend most of his time cracking Democratic heads, getting them to move from the left |
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Hannah Bell (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:32 AM Response to Reply #60 |
81. esp. since what's now called "the left" used to be the middle. |
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billh58 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:41 AM Response to Reply #8 |
90. Rahm is a DLC Poster Boy |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:23 PM Response to Reply #90 |
181. Eactly! We'll have to wait and see if |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:25 PM Response to Reply #8 |
125. If Emanuel is the choice for such an important position, then we may have all worked |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:02 PM Response to Reply #125 |
155. yes, Rahm is DLC right leaner - had enough of that |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:55 PM Response to Original message |
10. Rep. Emanuel, Ma'am |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #10 |
12. Yes, sir, I was waiting for your post. No, that is not all that matters. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:02 PM Response to Reply #12 |
20. legislation is about issues |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #20 |
24. That is not what I said at all. Minds are fixed. Words are not being read. |
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tavalon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:17 PM Response to Reply #24 |
33. It will take a few disappointments here before people will begin stepping into their new job |
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...of J.Temperance (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:05 PM Response to Reply #12 |
23. That is all that matters, from a political point of view, President Obama needs to |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #12 |
27. Get The Bills Through, Ma'am, And The Majorities Up, Under a Popular President |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:35 AM Response to Reply #10 |
84. yes, you may be correct, but that remains to be seen. |
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The Magistrate (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 04:35 AM Response to Reply #84 |
93. Let Us Be Clear, Sir, And Put The Cards Face Up On the Table |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #93 |
140. and you, sir have turned it into nothing more than a game, |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 05:38 PM Response to Reply #10 |
150. Very clever, Sir ... |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
13. Maybe Rahm wasn't chosen for his views on issues but how he can get things done |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
14. That is one view. |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:07 PM Response to Reply #14 |
28. I fully expect to disagree with Obama on many issues |
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nolabels (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 04:24 PM Response to Reply #28 |
148. The thing about climbers is finding the correct thing for them to climb |
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achtung_circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:20 PM Response to Reply #13 |
34. Wow, sanity |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:24 PM Response to Reply #34 |
36. Yes, about the cannibalism - We can be a worrying bunch |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:37 PM Response to Reply #34 |
39. Oh, come on. You just called me a cannibal and questioned my sanity. |
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achtung_circus (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:50 PM Response to Reply #39 |
44. Well |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:44 PM Response to Reply #34 |
174. Yes, Democrats do revert to cannibalism very quickly |
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Auggie (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:12 AM Response to Reply #13 |
117. That's my take |
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Castleman (166 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:28 PM Response to Reply #13 |
126. Exactly. Rahm isn't going to be setting policy |
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LonelyLRLiberal (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:59 PM Response to Reply #13 |
164. Yes - and those who second-guess Obama's appointment seem to think they are smarter than Obama!!!! |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:04 PM Response to Reply #164 |
177. LonelyLRLiberal, I think you nailed it. Or, at least I hope you nailed it. |
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John Q. Citizen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 07:59 PM Response to Original message |
15. It gets him out of policy/legislation making and into Obama policy enforcement. He serves at |
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Overseas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:00 PM Response to Original message |
16. I was hoping the selection might be sort of a Keep Your Enemies Closer |
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eleny (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:11 PM Response to Reply #16 |
30. That's just what I was thinking about this selection |
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Recursion (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:02 PM Response to Original message |
19. Geez... what part of "firing up" do you guys not get? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:03 PM Response to Reply #19 |
22. Who is "you guys"? |
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Two Americas (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:06 PM Response to Reply #22 |
25. if it means standing with you... |
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CaliforniaPeggy (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
26. So, he won't decide policy... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:12 PM Response to Original message |
31. I want to add Digby's remarks from earlier: |
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LWolf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:14 PM Response to Original message |
32. Excellent points, all, and |
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eridani (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:23 PM Response to Original message |
35. As chief of staff, he won't be picking out pro-war candidates for DCCC anymore n/t |
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dwilso40641 (91 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 03:59 PM Response to Reply #35 |
146. Or recruting goopoers to run as Democrats |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:38 PM Response to Original message |
40. I would like to know why so many think they can second guess Obama? He has gotten it right all |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:43 PM Response to Reply #40 |
41. Think about what you just said. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:46 PM Response to Reply #41 |
43. I thought about it. I stand by what I said. Live with it. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:57 PM Response to Reply #43 |
47. It is your right to want me to hush. |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:09 PM Response to Reply #47 |
49. Never said you had to hush. Just said I intensely disagreed with you. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 08:51 PM Response to Reply #40 |
45. What did we win? |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:07 PM Response to Reply #45 |
48. Condescend much? You don't know me or what I know or don't know. |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:46 PM Response to Reply #48 |
51. rahm did nothing of the sort! |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
54. So the Chair of the Democratic Congressional Campaign Committee had nothing to do with the Democrats |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:35 PM Response to Reply #54 |
64. I hear you, yellowcanine. Denial isn't just a river in Egypt. |
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babylonsister (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:56 PM Response to Reply #51 |
55. Umm, yes he did, or at least many people give him credit for this: |
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Pastiche423 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:28 PM Response to Reply #55 |
63. Yep, those DLCers love him! |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:16 PM Response to Reply #55 |
124. Oh right... |
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kenfrequed (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:55 AM Response to Reply #48 |
121. historical Revision much...? |
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sabrina 1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:18 PM Response to Reply #48 |
179. No, it was Howard Dean who was responsible |
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Rockholm (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #40 |
108. Some DU'ers just have to gripe about something. |
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bvar22 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:27 AM Response to Reply #40 |
120. "gotten it right all along"??? |
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Tierra_y_Libertad (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:13 PM Response to Original message |
50. Here's an all too familiar word that Rahm's appointment smacks of: "triangulation". |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:46 PM Response to Original message |
52. MadFloridian, you typify the American progressive |
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IndianaJones (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:47 PM Response to Reply #52 |
53. this deserves its own OP. excellent. nt. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:12 PM Response to Reply #53 |
73. Yes, he really should post a post about how progressive I am |
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yellowcanine (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 09:57 PM Response to Reply #52 |
56. Right on. What I was trying to say. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:00 PM Response to Reply #52 |
57. I am proud to be that kind of progressive. |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:38 PM Response to Reply #57 |
65. No one's trying to shame you for anything, and especially not me |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:55 PM Response to Reply #65 |
69. Yes, I do have big concerns. |
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Moonwalk (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:07 PM Response to Reply #57 |
130. Why is questioning the questioner... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:02 PM Response to Reply #52 |
58. I am not typical. Now I do resent that. |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:54 AM Response to Reply #52 |
114. oh wow |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:17 AM Response to Reply #114 |
119. I'd wager that Barack Obama has done far, far more for the poor and disenfranchised |
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Runcible Spoon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:40 PM Response to Reply #119 |
128. way to miss the point |
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John K (59 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:39 PM Response to Reply #52 |
184. I agree with your comment 100% |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:20 PM Response to Original message |
61. K&R....we should be wary of him. But, perhaps getting him out of Congress |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:26 PM Response to Reply #61 |
62. Give me the link to your post. |
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KoKo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:10 AM Response to Reply #62 |
100. Here....it sunk like a stone... |
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unkachuck (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:46 PM Response to Original message |
66. K&R....n/t |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:51 PM Response to Original message |
67. Posting carefully and intelligently here no longer matters. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 10:52 PM Response to Original message |
68. Dean said "I'll probably be dusting off my resume" |
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trudyco (975 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:07 PM Response to Reply #68 |
72. Let's hope Obama knows what he's doing and can rule Rahm in. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:43 PM Response to Reply #72 |
74. Thanks. Doesn't bother me too much buts cuts down on good discussions |
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mnhtnbb (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:45 PM Response to Reply #68 |
170. The article says Dean may be under consideration for Sec'y of Health and Human Services |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:00 PM Response to Reply #170 |
172. So is Tom Daschle. |
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dysfunctional press (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Thu Nov-06-08 11:00 PM Response to Original message |
71. at least it gets his dlc dino ass out of congress- maybe his seat can go to an actual democrat. |
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Mampula (15 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:17 AM Response to Original message |
76. I'm ok with Rahm |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:22 AM Response to Reply #76 |
77. You think my post is "trashing"? Welcome to DU, I guess. |
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defendandprotect (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:24 AM Response to Original message |
78. K&R ------Kinda long..back tomorrow -- |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:27 AM Response to Original message |
80. how can one not appreciate such an insightful post? thanks. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:34 AM Response to Reply #80 |
83. Thank, I meant it that way....not in an ugly way. It's too important not to discuss. |
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Joe Fields (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:59 AM Response to Reply #83 |
87. It goes directly to the core issue of the idealogical direction of the party. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:33 AM Response to Original message |
82. Chris Bowers has another post up tonight. Discussing Democracy is healthy. |
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Peggy Day (859 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:56 AM Response to Reply #82 |
91. I think he needs to be watched. When he said something against |
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mhatrw (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:20 AM Response to Original message |
88. To sum up: Rahm Emanuel is a centrist hack. n/t |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 03:51 AM Response to Original message |
92. I agree with your concerns... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:56 AM Response to Reply #92 |
115. I have felt the same...realized he was centrist. |
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JCMach1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:25 PM Response to Reply #115 |
137. Chief of Staff is usually more of a behind the scenes mechanic type of job |
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althecat (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 04:47 AM Response to Original message |
94. I am pleased you posted this madfloridian |
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fla nocount (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 05:08 AM Response to Original message |
95. madfloridian, you are a jewel... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:22 PM Response to Reply #95 |
180. Few share your view... |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 05:33 AM Response to Original message |
96. MF, Look At It As a Chess Game |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:22 AM Response to Reply #96 |
101. Fascinating post, Demeter. Who's GM, though? - daft question though it doubtless is. |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:29 PM Response to Reply #101 |
127. GM? What Are You Referring to? |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:12 PM Response to Reply #127 |
156. It was about Pelosi: "If she thinks sucking up to GM will help protect her, |
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Demeter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:17 PM Response to Reply #156 |
165. That's General Motors |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:34 PM Response to Reply #165 |
167. Thanks. The most obvious thing, and I didn't think of it! |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:10 PM Response to Reply #165 |
188. Politicians can be like chameleons. Blair was the absolute paragon of |
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droidamus2 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:09 AM Response to Original message |
97. Don't worry |
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MicaelS (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:05 AM Response to Original message |
98. I think Obama wanted a pit bull |
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Joe Chi Minh (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:24 AM Response to Reply #98 |
102. Obama as the soft talker, Emanuel, the big stick. I like the sound of that. |
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BlooInBloo (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:20 AM Response to Reply #102 |
107. Yup. Good-cop, bad-cop is how I describe it. |
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jesus_of_suburbia (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:43 PM Response to Reply #98 |
196. I totally agree with all that you said, MicaelS. I'm glad Pres Obama picked a fighter. |
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Romulox (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:10 AM Response to Original message |
99. Rahm Emanuel = MORE OF THE SAME |
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truedelphi (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:37 AM Response to Reply #99 |
112. Yes and it is weird to think that |
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goforit (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 11:01 AM Response to Reply #99 |
116. Yes, the continuing control of the illuminati. No wonder B.Clinton was so happy. |
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GTurck (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 09:06 AM Response to Original message |
104. Personally... |
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bagrman (889 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:45 AM Response to Reply #104 |
113. It will depend upon who becomes the tool.. |
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Moonwalk (437 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:52 PM Response to Reply #104 |
136. Think you hit the nail on the head, GTurck! |
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GTurck (569 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 09:11 AM Response to Reply #136 |
186. I think... |
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antigop (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 10:18 AM Response to Original message |
106. madfl, I always find your posts interesting |
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kaygore (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:12 PM Response to Original message |
122. I agree. I was deeply disappointed. |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 12:14 PM Response to Original message |
123. this does it for me: Israel:"our man in the White House." |
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Neil_in_Chicago (3 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:03 PM Response to Original message |
129. in the Plus column . . . |
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lebkuchen (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:16 PM Response to Original message |
131. Of the 7000 or so jobs that serve at the pleasure of |
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desktop (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:21 PM Response to Original message |
132. I haven't seen this much trashing of a Democrat since Hillary Clinton was running |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:39 PM Response to Reply #132 |
134. There you go with that word "trashing" again. Can't you think of a better one? |
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desktop (263 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:33 PM Response to Reply #134 |
139. Sorry, maybe a condescending elitist like yourself prefers criticizing |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #139 |
141. So now you say I am a "condescending elitist"? Any other names? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 03:43 PM Response to Reply #139 |
144. I am waiting to see what other names you come up with. |
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fascisthunter (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:28 PM Response to Reply #139 |
192. elitists are those who have power, not those criticizing that power |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:35 PM Response to Original message |
133. "legislation in the abstract" |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 01:48 PM Response to Reply #133 |
135. Not a matter of smart. |
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Martin Eden (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:41 PM Response to Reply #135 |
169. Obama will tell Rahm which battles to fight ... |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:27 PM Response to Original message |
138. Since Rahm won't be dealing with policy, he's a good choice for head-cracker in chief for Obama. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:51 PM Response to Reply #138 |
142. Yes, we all worked so hard. We really need head crackers. |
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AtomicKitten (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 02:57 PM Response to Reply #142 |
143. I'm not talking about whipping us in line ..... |
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diane in sf (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 03:47 PM Response to Original message |
145. I remember the attacks on Dean and I have no use for moving right as a tactic, |
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katty (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 05:46 PM Response to Reply #145 |
152. yes, 'hope' so.... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 04:13 PM Response to Original message |
147. ABC News has reposted "Kiss the Ring" from Jan. 2007 |
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LanternWaste (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 04:34 PM Response to Original message |
149. For my part... |
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GeorgeGist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 05:42 PM Response to Original message |
151. If Obama earned your trust ... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 05:53 PM Response to Reply #151 |
154. That's a new name I've been called today. "hypocrite" |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:59 PM Response to Reply #154 |
175. You really need to stop playing the victim |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 09:54 PM Response to Reply #175 |
176. Calling people names is not "questioning". It is being just plain rude. |
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bertman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 12:20 AM Response to Reply #175 |
185. Good try, Gman. You are trying to "unvictimize" the ultimate victim. It's her chief tactic |
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Gman (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 10:24 AM Response to Reply #185 |
187. Can you imagine Obama in the debates with McCain |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:14 PM Response to Reply #187 |
189. It's a childish thing to do, to make fun of others at a forum and call names. |
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JuniperLea (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:13 PM Response to Original message |
158. I trust our President |
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BlueEyedSon (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:23 PM Response to Original message |
159. Alternet: Is Obama Screwing His Base with Rahm Emanuel Selection? |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 11:58 AM Response to Reply #159 |
205. Thanks will go read that now. |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:35 PM Response to Original message |
160. Oddly enough, there's a post here called "Jesus F**king Christ" |
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swishyfeet (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:41 PM Response to Original message |
161. A very nice collection of opinions about this at Politico |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:31 PM Response to Reply #161 |
166. The sentence that leaped out at me...he's got the goods on everyone in Congress |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:49 PM Response to Original message |
162. Advisers say Obama is sending a message to the left. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 06:54 PM Response to Original message |
163. I have reason to believe that Rahm was not Obama's choice. |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:19 PM Response to Reply #163 |
191. oh bullshit. Rahm is one of Obama's closest friends. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:44 PM Response to Reply #191 |
197. This is not my logic, it is info from someone who knew Emanuel was chosen before it hit the news |
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cali (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:28 PM Response to Reply #197 |
199. I can guarantee that I don't buy your crap. |
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Bjorn Against (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:36 PM Response to Reply #199 |
200. You don't have to trust me... |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:35 PM Response to Original message |
168. Looks like funding for staffers in the 50 states is ending. |
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Solly Mack (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 07:57 PM Response to Original message |
171. Bookmarking |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Fri Nov-07-08 08:06 PM Response to Original message |
173. Remember the policy shop? |
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kid a (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:18 PM Response to Original message |
190. mf: put yourself in Obama's shoes and explain here what he saw as the positives in Rahm |
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madfloridian (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:36 PM Response to Reply #190 |
194. Rahm knows everything about everybody in the party and in DC |
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Nikki Stone1 (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:32 PM Response to Original message |
193. Madflo, I'm with you on this. |
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bobbolink (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 01:38 PM Response to Original message |
195. "How It Will PLay In An Election" |
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leftchick (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:06 PM Response to Original message |
198. Hail to the Chief of Staff |
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dailykoff (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:39 PM Response to Original message |
201. I can say it in three words: Iraq, Iran, and Afghanistan. |
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Individualist (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Sat Nov-08-08 02:40 PM Response to Original message |
202. The fact that he's DLC is disturbing. |
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Political Heretic (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:00 AM Response to Original message |
203. Thank you for posting tough, thoughtful analysis that few want to hear. But I don't agree. |
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Antennas (60 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 02:07 AM Response to Original message |
204. I agree, 100%. |
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Blu Dahlia (362 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore | Mon Nov-10-08 12:01 PM Response to Original message |
206. thanks for your concern, but OBAMA, not Rahm, is in charge! |
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