Will this exercise in Israel be the start of the war on Iran?

[Bruichladdich]

Fortunately there were disaster exercises on the 9/11 and on 7/7 attacks...
( as if they knew something we didn't...)

Now Israel plans a nuclear disaster practice on March 21st.

Russia has called its Engineers home and out of Iran.

I am really afraid, that there is something going on,
and that this something will lead to the war on Iran!

I hope I am wrong.

[and-justice-for-all]

1. Link? nt

[Bruichladdich]

2. here is one

but only in german. http://de.news.yahoo.com/26022007/286/kurzberichte-landesweite-atomschutz-bung-israel.html
I searched hard to find one in english, but: sorry ..

There are so many websites warning that a war on Iran is very close here in Europe. You can read it between the lines. At the Euro-vision Song contest Israel participates with the song: " Push the button!" and the youth of Israel cheers to this song.


That the engineers of Russia leave the the area of Busher is told to happen because the Iranian failed to pay their dues. This is the less important wink anyway, Israel will not inform Russia about their plans on that thread.
But Russia is also able to count one and one together...

[madrchsod]

5. good god is that the best israel can come up with?

i know the euro -vision song contest is a bit bad but that song is awful...russia is very worried about the iranian situation because it will directly effect them

[NightWatcher]

6. English translation- via babelfish (not the greatest translation)

Country-wide atomic protection exercise in Israel
Israel plans a country-wide atomic protection exercise for the coming month. With the test intended for 21 and 22 March is to be played to the end the case of a nuclear attack on the country, communicated the emergency services on Monday. Were rehearsed both the scenario of a solid missile attack, and Israel it in the past summer during the war against the schiitische Hisbollah-militia in Lebanon, and an attack with non-conventional rockets had experienced, explained a speaker stomach David Adom, the Israeli counterpart as the red cross. In the exercise the task forces of army, police and fire-brigade therefore participate. It was announced siren alarm for the whole country.

[mahmoud al_hazen]

36. My translation from German to English:

Israel is planning a nation-wide civil-defense exercise, emphasizing the consequences of an atomic attack, to begin 21st March. A spokesman of the Magen David Adom ("Magen"="stomach", in German), the Israeli counterpart of the Red Cross, explains that the exercises are meant to test the efficiency and co-ordination of the named agencies of Israeli civil defense.
It seems to be a normal and routine function of government, not indicative nor predictive of anything in particular.

[and-justice-for-all]

8. Dankeschon...nt

[Scurrilous]

28. U.S., IDF hold joint exercise on response to nuclear attack

<snip>

"Israel and the United States are conducting a joint military exercise whose main goal, according to military officials in both countries, is to hone the allies' abilities to fend off missiles equipped with nuclear, biological or chemical warheads.

This year's Juniper Cobras drill, in contrast to those in recent years, will not involve intercepting live missiles due to logistical constraints associated with last summer's Lebanon war and U.S. deployments.

The Israel Air Force's Air Defense Artillery Brigade and the U.S. Army Corps' 69th Air Defense Artillery Brigade are taking part in the maneuvers.

Israel is testing the latest version of the Arrow and Patriot PAC-2 anti-missile systems.

The Americans are testing, for the first time, the capabilities of their Terminal High Altitude Area Defense (THAAD) and Patriot PAC-3 systems."

http://www.haaretz.com/hasen/spages/838752.html

[mahmoud al_hazen]

47. Interesting link, thanks Scurrilous.

It's a workaday piece describing USA-Israeli co-operation. Interesting, but not indicative nor predictive of any hostility regarding the Republic of Iran against Israel.

[Bruichladdich]

3. and an unbelievable other one

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-3851426890212250833

I don't think its funny. Its even no satire.

Its sacking out mainstream

[blues90]

15. I don't think it's something to tahe lightly either

I did'nt think they would attack Iraq either but here we are .

Knowing how crazy these freaks are , and knowing this is part of the PNAC plan .

Look how damn fast things vanish from the news , things more so fast everyones head must be spinning .

It jumps from Libby to the Walter Reed scandle to the plame case and in between Anna Nichole and a shaved head of a fool . I know I missed something here . There is the firing of the Judges and Alberto , cheney at AIPAC and the congress handing bush free green light to hit Iran .

Just with all this anything can happen at anytime , also there was Israel warning it's citizens to come home from certain countries .

It just has no end in sight . By monday who the hell can predict what will happen by then .

I say nothing is impossible or off any table , this is a dangerous mad world with nothing off limits .

[NightWatcher]

4. where is everyone else going to be?

look for dick and shrub.
Also, watch the stocks and gold on Monday and Tuesday- remember how they sold stocks short prior to 9/11. Also, I'd be curious to see what "non-news" is happening on Mon-Tues. Remember the Chandra Levi prior to 9/11. Will this deflect the Rove-Gonzales- Plamegate attention???

[Bruichladdich]

7. It will happen in Israel ( if it happens)

so I am pretty sure, "dick and shrub" will stay home on wednesday.

If I would live in israel I would stay at home too.

About short selling / stocks

The author of this blog says, a war on Iran would be like crossing the borderline for china and japan, and that the dollar would fall endless..

The dollar-crash: A must read, imho

http://www.ichblog.eu/content/view/405/2/

[and-justice-for-all]

9. Israel is seen as a western intruder...

They were given land by western nations that did not belong to them to give. Israel is cocky; they have an army of Die Apokalyptischen Reiten on their side. The Jews should have settled in Poland rather than the Middle East and all of this battle of myths would not be happening.

Yet, people still think religion is harmless. When you have 2 ideologies with the same goal, eventual the shit is going to hit the fan.

[cali]

10. What a silly post.

Look, Israel exists where it exists, and whether or not it should have been created by the UN, is an argument deeply rooted in futility, and ignorant of history. As for the myth that the mideast would be trouble free were it not for history, that is extremely doubtful.

As for the OP, for over a year there's been a relentless parade of predictions of an imminent attack on Iran by either the US or Israel. It never comes to pass. Some of those making that prediction sound bizarrely eager for it to happen.

[and-justice-for-all]

16. Silly?? Please...

Yeah know, well obviously you dont. So I will explain it to you very clearly.....

I do not have anything negative to say about the Jewish people, thats not the primes here at all. But I wll not take their side simple because some people think that Israel is beign picked on by Arab nations. Israel is just as much as a bully as the extremist from the surrounding nations are.

The politics about and of Israel is rooted in Western agendas. The so called "myth" as you try to state it as, that the Middle East would be far less chaotic if Israel was located elsewhere, is indeed fact. Those making doomsday predictions are the likes of Hagee and Company, they meddle in politcal affairs on the Hill at the inventation of Chancellor Shrub.

I am not going to take sides with a nations politics that actually need dissent. Are the surrounding nations any better? no, but Israel does a fine job at supression and restlessness and not to meantion the piss poor decisions they have made.

I am not eager for anything apocalyptic to happen over there...Im not anti-Israel or favor any other nation over there any more or any less, but exempting Israel's atrocities is not acceptable.

I choose Dissent, if you dont like it tough shit.

[cali]

23. WTF are you babbling about, and why on earth did

you feel it necessary to state that you don't have anything negative to say about the Jewish people? What a passing strange statement.

Look, I'm no supporter of the Israeli occupation and the demeaning and humiliating and brutal treatment they've meted out to the Palestinian people, but arguing that Israel shouldn't have been created some 60 years ago, is indeed a fool's errand. It doesn't deal with the reality of its existence or promote peace in any way shape or form. But hey, some people are scab pickers.

The fact is Israel exists. Don't like it? Tough shit.

[question everything]

29. Hear, hear! Can Israel behing the 9/11 conspiracy be far behind? (nt)

[TheConstantGardener]

21. Have you ever heard of a self-fulfilling prophecy?

Seymour Hersh constantly revealing their plans is STOPPING them from attacking. Or would you rather believe they have no intentions, after all the recent provocations by the US against Iran?

Let's not be naive!

[sanskritwarrior]

14. To alert or not alert

that is the question.......

[and-justice-for-all]

17. Please, Alert!!! because I disagree with Israel's politics...nt

[sanskritwarrior]

18. That's not why

and you know it........

[and-justice-for-all]

19. Explain it to me then...

I dont really give a shit, but go ahead.

[sanskritwarrior]

22. No thanks

I'm not in the mood to get into it with you, but you know why......

[and-justice-for-all]

25. whatever wanker..nt

[sanskritwarrior]

26. So do u feel the need to resort to namecalling........

watch your mouth.

[cali]

24. Why? There's nothing in that post that deserves deletion

unless you object to piss poor thinking skills, in which case thousands of DU posts should be deleted.

[mahmoud al_hazen]

33. Good call, cali;

Though the OP looks to be of dubious value as a predictor of anything, it doesn't seem to be inflammatory.

[sanskritwarrior]

49. Something that person said to me in private.............

they are not what they appear........

[JohnLocke]

31. "Jews should have settled in Poland rather than the Middle East"

:wtf:

[oberliner]

32. The Jews should have settled in Poland?

Am I reading that correctly?

[mahmoud al_hazen]

48. I know I'm new here,

so I'm especially acquainted with the rules of posting at DU, as in it's not acceptable to suggest that all the Jews should pack their bags and deport themselves from their homeland. You're saying Israel should re-populate Poland? Wow, American Liberals are harsh.

[Rosa Luxemburg]

11. 3/21?

I will have to consult my crystal ball.

[ruiner4u]

12. Ahhhhhhhhh...

3/21 = 3 / 2+1 = 3 / 3 which = 1 !!11!!1 9/11 = 9 / 1+1 = 9 / 2 = something and somehow you can get to 9 + 1 + 1 = 11

3/21 will be ok.. but 3/11 is when we will attack Iran..

oh...wait.

[mahmoud al_hazen]

38. Now THAT'S funny! n/t

n/t

[sanskritwarrior]

13. Look at the moon

phases and illum.........there's one clue. there are many others, but that's a start........

[mahmoud al_hazen]

20. Israel has nothing to fear from Iran;

from your link provided, further down the page we find: Teheran (AP) Die vom Iran am Sonntag gestartete Rakete hat doch nicht den Weltraum erreicht. Es habe sich um eine Rakete für wissenschaftliche Zwecke gehandelt, die eine Höhe von 150 Kilometern nicht überschreiten könne, räumte der stellvertretende Leiter des iranischen Weltraumforschungszentrums, Ali Akbar Golru, auf der Homepage des staatlichen Fernsehen ein. «Sie erreicht den Orbit nicht und kehrt per Fallschirm auf die Erde zurück», sagte Golru.

Der Leiter des Zentrums, Mohsen Bahrami, hatte den Flugkörper am Sonntag noch als Weltraumrakete bezeichnet. Jetzt hieß es, der Abschuss habe dazu gedient, Wissenschaft und Forschung für die Studenten im Land zu verbessern. Der Iran unternimmt seit geraumer Zeit Anstrengungen, Satelliten ins All zu schießen. http://de.news.yahoo.com/26022007/12/iranische-rakete-erreichte-weltraum.html
It's well known Iran is many years away from developing a nuclear weapon, and doesn't even have the means to deliver one, assuming there was an intent to do so, which cannot be credibly substantiated. Put away the tinfoil, man!

[Swede]

27. I wonder if it's because Iran has threatened to annihilate them 30 times.

Naa. That would be overreacting.

[mahmoud al_hazen]

30. Swede, I believe you may be misinformed;

Traditionally and historically, Persian Muslims and the Jewish people have had a very warm and mutually-respectful regard for each other. If by your post you are referring to President Ahmadinejad, certainly you're aware that his position is strictly for representing empty rhetoric of a faction of the Supreme Council of the Islamic Republic of Iran. Ahmadinejad has no portfolio, he wields no power nor influence.

[oberliner]

34. What about statements by the Supreme Leader?

Iranian supreme leader tells Pakistani President Musharraf, 'Zionist regime was created by West to divide Muslim world'; says regional troubles will end once 'era of American aggressiveness and Zionist crimes passes'

"The establishment of the Zionist regime was an act committed by the West to create an ongoing clash in the Muslim world," said Iran's supreme spiritual leader Ayatollah Seyyed Ali Khamenei on Monday during a meeting with visiting Pakistani President Gen. Perves Musharraf.

Musharraf, who recently arrived in Tehran, heard Khamenei describe the American and British support of Israel as encouragement to continue committing crimes against the Palestinians.

"Any plan involving the Middle East will not be successful until the era of American aggressiveness ends and the Zionist crimes are stopped," said Khamenei.

http://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-3361369,00.html

Here is a quote from Khamenei from the Islamic Republic News Agency:

"Israel's weakness, which was well proved in the 33-day war on Lebanon, all Muslim nations' hatred and resentment of the Zionist regime and Israel and resistance of the Palestinian nation and Hamas government against Zionists are all the realities which would help forge a deep understanding of the Palestinian problem and its settlement," declared the Supreme Leader.

http://www.irna.com/en/news/view/line-24/0702057285200028.htm

[mahmoud al_hazen]

37. The so-called Supreme Leader doesn't have dictatorial powers

over the nation of Iran. His is but one voice and opinion; influential, but not investing him with power to become sole 'commander-in-chief'. President Ahmadinejad is even less than that; he's the Katie Couric of Iran.

[oberliner]

39. Thanks for the info

It was my understanding that the Supreme Leader of Iran had more power than what you've indicated. Can you recommend a relatively unbiased website with information about the structure of the government of Iran?

[mahmoud al_hazen]

40. Though I don't have one handy at the moment,

you could get a brief overview from Wikipedia.

[Swede]

42. So that guy that they call the leader that wants to erase Israel is just

a nobody that we should just not mention.

[mahmoud al_hazen]

44. The perceived as leader,

isn't all he's cracked-up to be. President Ahmadinejad is a completely powerless spokesman, without portfolio viz the 'regime'. Iran as a nation is very peacefully disposed in the international community. Your unfounded fears of Mr. Ahmadinejad seem naive.

[Swede]

43. Wheh,I thought the leader of Iran wanted to erase Israel.

Now you tell me he is just the man setting next to the man to the man that has his hatred on.

[mahmoud al_hazen]

45. Swede, can you name the dictator of the Islamic Republic of Iran?

n/t

[Clark2008]

51. Threatened...

with absolutely nothing to back it up with.

Iran could take some shots, of course, but they couldn't annihilate Israel. The adverse is, however, true.

[LSK]

35. who the hell would nuke Israel???

:shrug:

[mahmoud al_hazen]

46. LSK, it would have to be an incident in Dimona on Tuesday...

n/t

[burrowowl]

41. Strange!? Israel has Nukes and

Iran has a long way to go to get them.

[notadmblnd]

50. and now there's this? russia warns US not to use nuclear issue with Iran.

Link from LBN

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=102x2771641