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LeftyFingerPop Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:48 PM
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Oh Christ. Joe Scar is saying the election is being "bought"...
by Obama, because he is spending more on 30 second ads.
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:49 PM
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1. Morning Schmo is an idiot
Why do you bother?
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:49 PM
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2. Bought by the American people who gave Obama money and their votes
Obama isn't doing this on his own dime.
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AirmensMom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:49 PM
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3. That's because he can't imagine
so many people being inspired to give what they can to help him get elected. :shrug:

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valerief Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:50 PM
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4. That coked up dead intern clown isn't worth the electrons he's transmitted over. nt
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AllieB Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:50 PM
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5. Isn't David Shuster or Nora O'Donnell usually on at this time?
Why is MSNBC subjecting us to their worst-rated show in the middle of the afternoon? I'm glad I didn't turn it on. I hate that squinty-eyed asshat.
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guitar man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:51 PM
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6. so what if it is?
Big corporate shills have been "buying" elections for decades now. If this one is being "bought" for Obama, with an average citizen contribution of $86 each, good for us, it's our damned turn!!
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deaniac21 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:51 PM
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7. All elections are bought.
:shrug:
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Incitatus Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:51 PM
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8. Didn't Bush spend more than Kerry last election?
Did Joe say Bush bought that election?
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Hubert Flottz Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:00 PM
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19. I told you folks a month ago that McCrash would eat your puppy!
Nobody believed me then!
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gollygee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:52 PM
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9. Uh-huh. When huge corporations and lobbyists give tons of money to candidates to buy ads,
the election ISN'T being bought, but when everyday Americans donate on average $86 at a time, and THAT money is being used to buy ads, THEN the election is being bought. Yup, makes sense.
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phantom power Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:52 PM
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10. Well, sure. Spending money is only OK if you are Republican...
It's just making his head explode that a Democrat is beating the pants off a Republican in campaign fundraising.
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:52 PM
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11. Joe, a former Republican Rep, can't understand why Obama needs
to spend more money to get his message out. Maybe he should ask Pat Buchanon, a former Republican Presidential candidate, or Fox News to help him understand why.
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rucky Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:53 PM
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12. Yep. Bought and paid for by We The People
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sinkingfeeling Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:56 PM
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13. So? Thought Republicans liked the idea of 'money as speech'. They've fought a long
battle against any restrictions on how much money can be 'donated' to their causes, because it squashed their 'free speech' rights.
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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:56 PM
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14. Of course he's right.
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 01:56 PM by bobbolink
Corporations have raked in TRILLIONS in elections for how many years now?

It is corrupting our system of government, but we aren't strong enough and don't have the will to change it.

He's just angry that this time the buying is on the other side.

:nopity:
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ProfessorGAC Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:56 PM
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15. Major Office Has Been About Money For 40 Years
So, Joey has just now caught up.
The Professor
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:56 PM
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16. Obama has vastly out-spent his rivals since March. What the hell. That's how the game's played.
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 01:56 PM by MookieWilson
they didn't mind when Bush did it.
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tjwash Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:57 PM
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17. Turn off the cable news. You'll thank yourself later.
nt
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Fumesucker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 01:57 PM
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18. Money = Speech is a conservative shibboleth.
Those with the most money speak the loudest.

Why is it that conservatives are utterly incapable of being consistent?
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Forrest Greene Donating Member (946 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:37 PM
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29. "Those with the most money speak the loudest."
Which boils down, I think, to simple bullying.

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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:00 PM
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20. Appalling intellectual dishonesty.
It's funny how "money is speech" as an argument gets thrown aside when it's not a few people with a vast amount of money doing the "speaking"! The ARGUMENT for campaign finance reform is and was PREDOMINANTLY about massive amounts of money from a few wealthy interests overwhelming the interests of the 'average American.' Only as a rationale for the NEED of such funding was it lamented that political campaigns actually cost that much. McCain/Feingold campaign finance reform actually addressed, IN PART, the 'gorilla' donor problem by LIMITING the amounts any individual could contribute directly. To the degree that legislation achieved ANYTHING, it was in imposing such limits. It's intellectually dishonest in the extreme to claim that a vast number of small donations is somehow an equivalent problem to the fat cat donors. After all, "public financing" is nothing but a vast number of small donations ... essentially a small fraction of income taxes.

They effectively twisted and reframed the legitimate arguments and tried to smear Obama. Detestable.
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LSdemocrat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:01 PM
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21. How dare we, the people, get together and participate in the democratic process
Who the heck do we think we are?
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:07 PM
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22. Money is free speech, REMEMBER?
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:20 PM
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28. only if the repubs have more money
is the caveat evidently

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gratuitous Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:10 PM
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23. Another ride on the conservative whaaam-bulance
When the Republicans enjoyed spending advantages of 3-1, 4-1 and even 10-1, Killer and his pals were just fine with the state of campaign financing. Now that the smart money has fled from the flaming corpse of the Republican party, suddenly a level playing field money-wise is the worst thing that could befall modern politics.
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my2sense Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:10 PM
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24. If that's the case then WE are the buyers
Obama is bought and paid for by the U.S. citizens this time around!
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librechik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:12 PM
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25. would Scar be complaining if it were the Republicans outspending Dems?
Hell no, he would be gloating about their efficiency at raising money as compared to those lame church mouse Dems.
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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:45 PM
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32. Joe has a tin ear to his own hypocrisy..
I stopped keeping score long ago. I only hope he opens his big fat mouth once too often and gets the boot from his talking head job soon.
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stray cat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:13 PM
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26. Maybe bought by the masses supporting Obama - about time we had a say
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darkism Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:14 PM
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27. Spend it if you got it!
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Bake Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:37 PM
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30. At least we do it honestly -- we're not STEALING it!!
:evilgrin:

Bake
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Robbien Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:48 PM
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34. Best answer yet
:thumbsup:

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Virginia Dare Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:45 PM
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31. Well, DUH!!!!!
did he then explain why the RNC was compelled to spend 150K on clothes, makeup and hairdos for the Caribou Barbie?
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 02:46 PM
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33. boy
desperate measures by desperate men.
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riley3 Donating Member (161 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:23 PM
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35. He should be on Fox.
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uppityperson Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:40 PM
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36. How dare he spend the money people gave him to spend on his campaign?
That is the purpose of donating money to his campaign.
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GreenPartyVoter Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 04:41 PM
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37. Every election is bought. And usually it goes to whoever has the biggest war chest
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