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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:44 AM
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Now that we have move past this Obama in a Landslide shit.........
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 07:46 AM by Fluffdaddy
I been saying for 4 months that this race was going to end up being year 2000 close.

Random thoughts:

Now that the race is tightening (like I knew it would) the "usual suspects" and Obama in a landslide people are now freaking out.

Calm down "Landslide people" this race is going to be won on Turn-out. We have a real real good shot at wining this if "The Bradley effect" don't hit us too hard, so please don't go all wobbly.

Fell your homes with lots of coffee Nov 4th-5th will be a looong night. But I feel in my gut that unlike 2000/2004 we will pull this one out.


Oh....... All you Landslide people and usual suspects that called me a troll and tried to get me banned for posting the truth that this would tighten-up big time, can now apologize to me in public or via PM............thanks

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:46 AM
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1. What are you talking about?
A few National Polls?

RCP has Obama at 311 EVs.
The States, and EVs have Obama with a strong lead, and a damn near impossible task ahead of mccain. I still think we'll be celebrating by 9:30.
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DarthDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:47 AM
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2. Yawn

Obama's going to win in an EV landslide. CluePhone's for you.
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:47 AM
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3. Saying "I told you so" on DU doesn't exactly make you popular. nt
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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:48 AM
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4. Especially, when they have yet to be right.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:59 AM
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14. I never been a popular person nor have I ever worried about being so.
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 07:59 AM by Fluffdaddy
The tightening of this was always going to happen in the last days of this race. And saying so never made me a troll or un-Democratic
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:00 AM
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17. well, then you should be happy as a pig in sh*t, then, because mission accomplished!
:)
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:05 AM
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21. hahahaha You gave me my first laugh of the day
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zanne Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:18 AM
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27. I don't consider you a troll or un-Democratic, Fluffdaddy. nt
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iamahaingttta Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:19 AM
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28. Maybe you're not popular around here because...
...you are clearly an idiot?

Its tightening at the end, meaning Obama is only up by 6 points.

It's going to be a blowout...
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mwb970 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:48 AM
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5. I'm still going for a landslide. Have you seen the Electoral map?
BTW, the "Bradley effect" apparently didn't actually affect Bradley himself. I doubt that it will be an important factor now.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:48 AM
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6. The tightening is in the meaningless popular vote
As far as projected EV goes, Obama is still safe in more than enough states to make a close EV result verye very unlikely. He'd have to lose ALL the states where he is leading by less than a large margin for any popular vote tightening to matter.

Landslide? Dunno. Good position? Yep. 2000 scenario? Possible, but implauisble.

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tekisui Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:51 AM
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9. I have seen no tightening in the Popular vote, even.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:21 AM
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33. To be honest neither have I in some polls
But it has occurred in others, noticeably Ras, hence the angst from some.

Frankly I can see no way that we lose this other than Diebold/ES&S, which is of course a possibility that cannot be ignored.
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ThatsMyBarack Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:58 AM
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36. OMG--We're through the roof!
:bounce: :patriot:
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:49 AM
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7. This election will be called before 9:00 PM tuesday night
It is going to be that lopsided an election that the western vote will not even have been cast before the election is called for Obama.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:51 AM
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11. Agreed . . . which could be a good thing or a bad thing . . .
I want the other guys' voters to despair and not show up at the polls in the western states and lengthen Obama's coattails.
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MrModerate Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:49 AM
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8. Now if we can just move past this "tightening" shit . . .
And deal with the facts, which say that Obama's lead is steady except where it's growing.

OTOH, one could consider anything more than 11 EVs for McCain to mean "no landslide," and if that's your argument, then yes, no landslide is in sight.
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LaurenG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:51 AM
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10. I disagree - It's STILL gonna be a landslide. nt
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:54 AM
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12. Looks like someone is dipping into the FR kool-aid
I know we all need to drop over there at times to see what's up...keeping tabs on the enemy and all...but the moment you start to actually BELIEVE their horseshit, is a good time to take a step back.
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Fluffdaddy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:02 AM
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20. See what I mean. Next someone going to call in notice me being DLC
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Tarc Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:17 AM
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25. So am I, for the most part
Perhaps you still need some tiMe to get yoUr Priorities strAight.

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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:45 AM
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29. Which you shove in everyone's face.
when you post a divisive, taunting OP such as yours, that act is the act of a troll.

However, you are not a troll, you haven't the skills, you are instead, as H2OMan noted, merely a disagreeable Clown.
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dmallind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:23 AM
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34. Nah I'm a Blue Dog myself so no beef there.
Edited on Wed Oct-29-08 09:32 AM by dmallind
I just think you're wrong. Not traitorous or a troll, just mistaken.

Guess we'll find out in 6+ days.

But here's WHY:

Current electoral-vote.com has Obama at 364.

Let's take away FL with it's 27EV. His 3pt lead is within MOE and FL is always unpredictable.

337

Let's take away NC. Again a small lead in an even more red state by far

322


Let's take away IN. Rust belt or not a Dem taking IN is a wild card.

311

Let's take away CO AND NV - their traditional Southwestern libertarianism comes through in the end

297

Heck let's say the big outside MOE lead in VA is bullshit and Bradley effect comes home with a force

284


Let's say he wins NONE of the tossups.


Still 284.

You have to go into deep blue territory to see a loss. It would have to be ALL of the above plus OH. It's possible of course but not fricking likely if the votes count.

The very moment ANY of the above goes for Obama, it's over.




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KharmaTrain Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:58 AM
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13. Polls Come And Polls Go...
A couple of points:

- Almost this entire political cycle, Gramps has polled best on the weekends. Maybe it's cause Joe The Plumber is home watching football. By the end of the week, Senator Obama's numbers usually rise. Yesterday's numbers dropped off a strong Obama day on Friday with a weaker one on Saturday.

- As the race becomes more defined, so does the polling...putting more calls into "battleground" areas and this tends to show a lot tighter races than many are seeing. This is especially the case in the finaly weeks/days of the campaign as the polling gets more intense.

- Keep Your Eye On The Prize. The electoral map and the state polls are what matter here. The national beauty pagent numbers are pundit food. Any good statistician can go into the tabs of these polls and find numbers that make their candidate look good...or at least come out with a talking point. By now, a vast majority have decided (especially with early voting...not factored in polling), and the focus must be on getting the vote to the polls...not letting the polls drive your voters.

Cheers...
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 07:59 AM
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15. what color is the sky on your DLC planet?
and stop bogarting the clip, dude.
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KG Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:00 AM
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16. heh.
you get the feeling the DLC-types might not enjoy a non-clinton landslide?
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Lerkfish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:01 AM
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18. I get the feeling the DLC types...
well, you fill in the blank. Everything I come up with seems too harsh.
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spanone Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:02 AM
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19. L A N D S L I D E
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:07 AM
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22. There was no Bradley Effect.
That was a myth. The polls indicate that this will be a strong Democratic Party win - perhaps the strongest in a long time. Landslide or not, we are going to win.
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H2O Man Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:07 AM
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23. clown
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dweller Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:17 AM
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26. lol
:rofl:

agree,
dp
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Ikonoklast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:02 AM
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32. I agree completely, sir.
But I'm waiting for this. I hope to see it soon.




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we can do it Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:10 AM
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24. WTF???? sorry are you kidding?
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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Old and In the Way Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:56 AM
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30. A little premature on the victory lap?
Before you start taking bows for your prognostication skills in determining the results of next week's election, maybe you should wait for the results?
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 08:58 AM
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31. The media won't allow it to be anything but close
Whether the actual polls prove them wrong or not. They still need people tuning in Nov 4th or they're going to have a lot of pissed off advertisers.
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crikkett Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-29-08 09:57 AM
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35. Meh.
I'm reminded that I have other things to do besides listen to fearmongering.
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