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sabra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 08:46 PM
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“He did it.”
The Wilson's pleaded with Novak not to it, but he did it anyway... :mad:


http://thecaucus.blogs.nytimes.com/2007/03/16/valerie-plame-wilson-in-the-floodlights/

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Mrs. Wilson: “I found out very early in the morning when my husband came in and dropped the newspaper on the bed and said, “He did it.” And I quickly turned and read the article and I felt like I had been hit in the gut. I — it was over in an instant, and I immediately thought of my family’s safety, the agents, the networks that I had worked with — and everything goes through your mind in an instant. ”



Flashback:


http://www.democracynow.org/article.pl?sid=04/05/14/143211

Friday, May 14th, 2004
Joseph Wilson: Inside the Lies that Led to War and Betrayed My Wife's CIA Identity

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AMBASSADOR WILSON: Sure. He was walking down the street and a stranger came up to him and said, “You're Bob Novak, and can I chat with you?” That happens to public figures all the time. I'm sure it happens to you. Novak said, sure. They started talking. During the course of the conversation, this fellow said to Novak, “What about Wilson?” And Novak said, “Wilson is an asshole and his wife is a CIA operative -- his wife, Valerie Plame is a CIA operative.”

AMY GOODMAN: This is what Robert Novak told your friend?

AMBASSADOR WILSON: Right. And it just so happened that that stranger to Bob Novak was a friend of mine and he came to see me afterwards and related the story to me. I find that, quite apart from what I think of the article, the fact that he would be recklessly wandering the streets talking to strangers, giving that information that come up to him on the street extraordinarily reckless and unethical.

AMY GOODMAN: What did you do about it?

AMBASSADOR WILSON: I called him and he apologized and he wrote the story despite the CIA told him, of course, no.

AMY GOODMAN: Didn't Robert Novak know who you were, know your whole history?

AMBASSADOR WILSON: Well, he might claim that he didn’t, but, of course, in an article that appeared in an Evans & Novak article in 1990, there were three paragraphs devoted to me which started out by saying he's like the village shepherd, shepherding his flock taking care of the villagers trying to evacuate. He commented this is the stuff of heroism. I read that article to him, by the way, before he wrote his article.

AMY GOODMAN: On the telephone.

AMBASSADOR WILSON: On the telephone, yeah. I said, “Look, before you write the article, you might refresh your memory about me, these are things that you ought to know.” I sent him over the articles that I had written on the subject, and gave him a little bit of my background and read the excerpt from the Evans & Novak article in 1990.

AMY GOODMAN: What did he say?

AMBASSADOR WILSON: Well, he actually put some of that in his article. The article itself was not as much of a hatchet job as you usually get from Novak. The only thing that was remarkable about the article, frankly, was the dumping in the middle this, this reference to my wife. If you go back and read it that’s going, it adds nothing to the substance of the story that he's trying to promote. You ask yourself, why did he put it in. My other question to Novak is when he called the CIA and the CIA said no, what part of n-o didn't he understand?


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durtee librul Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 08:55 PM
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1. And yet again in yet another thread I write
Robert Novak is a traitor. He officially 'outed' Ms. Wilson by writing a published article. Prior to that it was talk pretty much contained in the DC area....then he writes a syndicated column and it's all over everywhere.

The old goat should be tried and handed whatever sentence they reserve for traitors to our country. Period.

I have been saying this since this story broke way back when and I won't stop until he is tried for treason.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:06 PM
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2. What you said.
That part of his brain that tells the difference between ethical and wrong either died or was put on ignore. He was completely devoted to trying to spin Wilson's story for the GOP and Rove.

Novak is a traitorous tool. He knew she was covert and that the CIA needed her and her work and he did it anyway. Goddam bastard.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:21 PM
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4. Well, no he shouldn't.
Look, I think Robert Novak is an old gas bag who deserves to be fired - but I won't begrudge him of printing what he found out in a reporting capacity.

The people who need to be tried for treason are the people who told him this information - the people in the White House.

I think jailing a reporter - even a nefarious one - would put even more of a chill on investigative journalism.

Now, we can argue that there isn't much investigative journalism anymore, but I'd like to see us moving away from the politics and hamstrings that hampers reporting, not toward more restraints.
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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:43 PM
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9. But what he reported was sensitive information that only helped our
enemies. That is not reporting, it is acting immoral and unethical. Sorry, but he is not a reporter in that capacity.
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Clark2008 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:57 PM
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10. Were you ever a reporter?
I was and, while possibly unethical, it's not illegal.

For example, I could report the names of juveniles charged with a crime if I found out their names; however, it is illegal for any law enforcement official besides the juvenile judge to give me the names.

Same thing.

He is a reporter in that capacity; although, WHY he was reporting it was immoral.

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Rex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:34 PM
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13. Not the same thing, the juvies didn't compromise national security.
Do you see the difference now?
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Lars39 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:29 PM
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5. No, the knowledge that she was CIA covert was *not* public at all
prior to his column.
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karlrschneider Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:32 PM
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8. As much as I despise Novakula, I don't really think he's technically guilty
of a crime...and here is why: He didn't have a security clearance of any kind, that I'm aware of. And if that's the case, he was not bound by the restraints that go along with such clearance. I'm thinking back to my days in the military...I had a "secret" clearance category (not 'top secret') and was legally obligated not to disclose certain things to anyone who
a) had a lower clearance AND b) a 'need to know'

But what if: What if I had told some secret shit to Joe A (my bad, my crime) and he told John B who then told
Bob H? Is there a diminishing 'trail of guilt', as it were in that case? I don't know all the legal ramifications of such a scenario but there has to be a point where repeating information, obtained innocuously, must end, nu?
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NanceGreggs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:16 PM
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3. Posters 1 and 2 already nailed it.
Nothing more to add - except to be in the cheering section for the treason trial.
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Cirque du So-What Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:30 PM
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6. It would have done my old rabblerouser heart good
to have seen Novakula cooling his heels in a D.C. jail on a contempt charge. I had to settle for Judy Miller, which was nearly as satisfying, but I'd still like for instant karma to open a can of whoop-ass on him!
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niyad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:03 PM
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11. welcome to DU-- novak ceased being a journalist a long time ago, and I agree with you about what
should happen to him.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 09:30 PM
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7. K&R
SCUM. :mad:
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tnlefty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Mar-16-07 10:04 PM
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12. During her testimony today, she mentioned that upon her
husband's learning that Novak was going to out her, she reported to her superiors and that her superiors had called Novak and told him not to do what he was about to do: print the info. in a column, and Novak did it anyway.

Novak is as guilty as the rest and I've never been able to understand why he's not in some really deep shit right now.
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Greeby Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Mar-17-07 07:51 PM
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14. Isn't he like J Edgar Hoover
In that no-one will touch him because he has dirt on everybody? That's what I heard :shrug:
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