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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:55 PM
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Lets get organized and just not Bitch about Voting polls & voting problems !!
Hi yes we all have are issues about voting problems so instead what if we have a thread to post all of the voting problems with sites to post them to ?

Only put the Problems and where people can go to do something instead of just Bitching

We can do this !! Take action NOW!!!!!!

:spank: :spank: :spank:
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Captain Hilts Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 01:56 PM
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1. And let's not use the word 'Bitch', especially capitalized as though a noun. nt
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:08 PM
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4. o yes I will & is this really important
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:01 PM
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2. Call your Secretary of State..
and ask him/her if your vote will be counted, and what they are doing to ensure the voting system used in your state is secure and accurate. Find info here:

http://www.verifiedvoting.org/verifier/
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:07 PM
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3. Definitely Too Much Bitching Going On.
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dorkulon Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:12 PM
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5. I was thinking it would be a good idea to start a group, a lobby or whatever...
Obviously I don't know the logistics involved, but a central lobby or 501-3c or whatever, devoted to parsing and explaining these issues, and pushing for legislation. I think there are a lot of frustrated people out there who would donate to it, if only to feel like they ARE doing something besides bitching.

I think bitching is all we can do at this point, because no one if giving direction to the people who are motivated to do SOMETHING, but have no idea what that something should be.
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april Donating Member (826 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-26-08 02:18 PM
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6. Thanks maybe we should go to
bradblog

BEAST: How much longer can the country survive these dubious elections before either we address the problem coherently, or people just stop feeling like they live in a democracy?

BF: I think a lot of people already do not feel like they live in a democracy, and justifiably so after after these last two presidential elections. But how long can it go on? It can go on until a Republican perceives that they have been screwed by this system, by these machines, for example. As soon as they feel that a Republican has lost a race because of a faulty, hackable voting machine, that’s when there will be reform. Because they will make sure there’s reform. The Democrats have been screwed out of one election after another. Sarasota is one of the most recent examples—Sarasota, Florida in 2006. 18,000 votes disappear in a Democratic district where the race went to the Republican by 369 votes—Katherine Harris’s old seat, by the way. And what did the Democrats do about it? Absolutely nothing.

BEAST: Despite all this, the Democrats are likely to gain a lot of seats in November. Do you think there’s any chance that they will be able, with a greater majority, to do something, pass a bill, whatever?

BF: Probably not. I mean, even if they had a veto-proof majority in the Senate—remember, for the first six year of the Bush administration, we were told the Democrats couldn’t do this or that because they just didn’t have the majority, that the Republican had the White House and both chambers of Congress. Then they got the majority in both chambers of Congress, and we were told they can’t do anything because it wasn’t enough of a majority. So, oddly enough, the Republicans have gotten everything they wanted, even while they’re in the minority. So, if the Republicans can get whatever they want while they’re in the minority, why couldn’t the Democrats get it when they were in the minority? Why can’t they get it now that they’re in the majority? You know, why are they signing off on giving immunity to the phone companies, the FISA bill?

BEAST: Well, because they’re almost as corrupt as the Republicans, I suppose.

BF: I don’t know, you know? I don’t find them to be as corrupt; I find them to be, uh, you know, once again, pussies. I just find them to be scared to death, incompetent, and they don’t know how to govern, how to fight for the people that brung ‘em to the dance. And so they have just been a failure on that level. But I don’t find them to be as corrupt. I find the Republicans to be evil, and I find the Democrats to be idiots. And there is a distinction, albeit a small one. I realize I’m really grasping for straws there, if that’s the difference between the two.

BEAST: It’s like the difference between Dr. Frankenstein and Igor.

BF: Exactly . So I really have no reason to believe they will do anything differently until I see them do it. When they do it, I will be delighted, and I will be happy to laud them for it. But I’ll believe it when I see it.
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