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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:57 PM
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A little photographic study on ms. todd
Here's the photo as it would look if you were looking in a mirror. Notice how correct the B looks:



And a close-up of her eyes. Note the total lack of swelling.

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ogneopasno Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:59 PM
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1. That is so obviously eye shadow it's not even funny. And I know for black eyes.
I know for bad eye shadow too, but seriously.
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:40 AM
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40. or smudged mascara
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FSogol Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:00 PM
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2. Wouldn't you move around if someone was carving letters into your face?
The B is perfect, not the type of letter that would appear during a struggle. It is also too mild of a cut for a crazed random attacker.
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Corgigal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:04 PM
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4. I asked my hubby, retired cop, what he thought
and he too doesn't think it's real. That must be a very dull knife. He also mentioned no resistance marks. What did she do, just let someone carve her up like a pumpkin and not move? Also the rounded outline of the B would not look that way with a sharp knife. He said when someone uses a knife, they will make a mark like a Zorro wound. So the "B" would be like two triangles and then the long mark.

It's crap and that is why the cops don't believe her.
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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:04 PM
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5. It's NOT a "cut" - it's a scrape. And wound management is an area of
special interest to me. The human medical text Peacock and Van Winkel's Wound Repair was my constant companion for years because a wound is a wound is a wound, whether cat or dog or man.
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lame54 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:42 PM
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13. yes it is a wound...
but, was it self-inflicted?
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:20 PM
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23. It does not look like it was caused by a knife,
and it is backwards. It doesn't make sense that a mugger would scratch a backwards B onto her face. It is more plausible that she did it using a mirror. I doubt it is even possible for a mugger to delicately scratch a backwards B onto a victims face, even if they were trying to be gentle. She says it was carved, it was not. If is was caused by a violent mugger I would expect that it would be carved. There would be cuts and blood. I would expect her to be in the hospital if she were beaten and knifed by a 6'4" man. In this photo, I don't see the emotional expression of someone who was mugged. Where is the look of trauma in her eyes?

Plus, why would a mugger pause in the middle of a mugging to look at a car? That does not sound plausible.
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mcg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:26 PM
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24. we'll see, the ATM has a security camera, update: police saying her story conflicts with evidence
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 11:36 PM by mcg
my original post:

investigators are trying to watch the video, also she said she would go to a hospital.

http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/breaking/s_594853.html

update:

"... her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said."

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7582501







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kestrel91316 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:04 AM
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28. It is NOT a laceration. Unless a very careful, meticulous perp did this
with a cooperative or unconscious victim, it's not a scrape from a knife edge, either.

My guess is the girl is right-handed and she did it with her right hand, visualizing the B in its proper orientation but from her perspective inside her head, lol, and using a mirror, too. Only later did she realize that's how you get it backwards.
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mrreowwr_kittty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:03 PM
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3. K and R! nt
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:24 PM
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7. About the black eye and other things...
Edited on Thu Oct-23-08 09:30 PM by luvspeas
I have a big Labrador retriever that loves to fetch. One day, I was playing with him and I reached down to get the ball and I got full on nailed by that boney thing on top of his head right in the eye-bone over my right eye. I ran in the house because I thought uh-oh, this is gonna be bad, and it was just a little red. I went to bed and THE NEXT MORNING I woke up with a lovely purple shiner that lasted full on a couple of weeks. The moral of this story is..
1-A shiner doesn't always swell. 2- NOBODY gets black an blue for several hours, and 3-I also wear make-up, and that is for sure make-up.

There really are a lot of holes in this story. She was at a frickin ATM. What does that have to do with McCain? I support Obama, but if somebody mugged me on my way home from work tonight I would not blame it on my bumpersticker! And what does a B have to do with anything...oBama? WTF! Finally, she's from Texas. This state is crawling with weirdos that think it's perfectly OK to blame everything on Black folks (I'm only half kidding here- and I don't mean everyone.) Seriously, even if every word she says is true, I want to know why she thinks this has anything to do with being a repugnican. Did he explicitly say something about the bumpersticker? Did she holler, "Ohmigod, if John McCain were president you'd never get away with this"? then he proceeded to teach her a lesson by lightly taking a paperclip and scratching a B on her cheek? I'll show you!!!!! Finally (maybe-I might get pissed and edit some more as I see more shit), A person would have to have someone down on top of them, with the left side of their face pressed firmly to the ground to make such a lovely and delicate curve TWICE to form such a round B! To get me in that position, We'd both be completely black and blue. Finally (maybe) what self respecting mugger carries a knife in the good ol US of A? Again, the girl is from TX! She would be like, "where the hell is your gun mr. mugger man?"

Palin called her today. I sure would like to know what THAT conversation was like!

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tblue Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:38 PM
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20. You are adorable.
Your post made me laugh and I couldn't agree with you more. What a bizarre, stupid stunt. How WOULD she know she was attacked 'just because' of her bumper sticker? Looks like another lowlife idjut playin' the victim and blamin' the black folk.
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KayLaw Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:38 AM
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She changed her story about that.
First she said he followed her back to her car, saw the sticker and became enraged. Now, she says it may have been the McCain button on her jacket.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:35 AM
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34. Welcome to DU!
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salguine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:22 PM
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6. I wonder if Ms. Todd will look good in orange coveralls.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:42 PM
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21. I think so.
And hope so. If our theories prove correct, she should be punished for this. I just hope we don't read about some young black women cut for revenge by some wing-nut.
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dysfunctional press Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:27 PM
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8. it looks like she got a smudge of the make-up on the other eye..
oops.
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:32 PM
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9. on the tip of her nose too
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madmom Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:37 PM
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10. I just noticed something about her eyes, they are both a little yellowish around the top lid area,
now is that make up or what? One thing I do know about that particular shade of yellow, to me it says an OLD bruise.
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:40 PM
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12. I'm thinking she slipped a little puttin on Halloween makeup
(now, if she had only hired a professional make-up artist)

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amberlight38 Donating Member (31 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:44 PM
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15. Her eye should be red
It seems that if she would have been beaten around the eye, small 'veins' in her eye would have appeared. Her eyes do appear clear - no redness. But, I'm not a doctor or an investigator - just my thoughts. amberlight38 :thumbsdown:
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:38 PM
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11. Rovian crackwhore
She owes Rove money. This is the result.
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:43 PM
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14. Not even the slightest reddening of the sclera or blephera.
Sick puppy. Really sick puppy.
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K8-EEE Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:54 PM
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16. That's how my eyes look the next day when I fall asleep with makeup on
A real black eye, there's a lot of yellow & purple going on and the whites of the eyes are usually screwed up for a bit.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:56 PM
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17. Also, look at how NOT RED her eyes are. n/t
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:01 PM
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18. Did you hear about the Aggie who left the real America and went to Philadelphia?
Yeah, she went to the ATM to claim her share of the bailout and she was robbed by a seven-foot-tall socialist terrorist muslim islamofascist wearing black face! He used his evil powers to summon a demon who writes in reverse (clever, these bolsheviks!) and before he left, some of the black paint rubbed off on her eye!


Could be worse though. Her two Aggie bff's stayed in College Station and went to the drive-in theater where they froze to death watching "Closed for the Winter."
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FM Arouet666 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:07 PM
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19. Fake Fake Fake
Robber demands 60$? What robber demands a certain amount of money? How about give me all your money or I will kill you!

She just happens to have 60$ and gives it to him and he is initially satisfied. Oh the luck! But wait, a McCain sticker.!!!!

What criminal sticks around to make a political statement?

He has a knife and makes a very shallow scrap to her face. How considerate! He wants to make a statement but he certainly doesn't want to make permanent scars!!!! Kick the shit out of her, but lightly scrap the face???

No swelling to the eye and is that a smudge of black color just above the B????

A medical professional would need to examine her to be sure that these are real wounds. Sadly, we can't have any of that. Just got the shit kicked out of me but don't need no prying medical exams.

Love the mirror image of the B.

And what luck for the McCain campaign. A Texas student who just happens to be in a swing state and work for the McCain campaign gets mugged by a politically active Barack Obama supporter who just happens to be black. What luck!!!!!!!!!!!


PUKE....... :puke:
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:49 PM
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22. 6 foot 4!
OK, I can't take it, there's more...she's saying the guy was 6 foot 4! My frickin brother is 6 foot 4 and he is a tall guy. I know what 6 foot 4 looks like. Only like a tiny fraction of the population is that tall. So some dude comes from basketball practice and decides he needs an extra $60 bucks!!! My head is going to explode if this goes on much longer.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:37 AM
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36. Aren't all negro muggers in scary cities 6 foot 4?
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:12 AM
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46. Another version of Willie Horton n/t
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Beetwasher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:07 PM
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51. "He Was 6'4'' And Carrying A Basketball and Listening To Loud Rap Music"
And said he was going to use the money he stole from me to buy watermelons and fried chicken!"
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:36 AM
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35. I laughed out loud!
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Jed Dilligan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:30 PM
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25. Maybe it's Maybelline!
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Vickers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:57 PM
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27. Har!
:thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup::thumbsup:
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procopia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 11:49 PM
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26. Is it possible the original photo was flipped...
and that is why the B appears backwards? Someone mentioned that possibility to me.
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Richard D Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:28 AM
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30. I doubt it.
But find a few pics of her and check it out.
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:38 AM
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37. No. Other photos of her on her own blog show her with the part in the same place.
and the police confirm that the B is backwards. They also say that there are numerous inconsistencies in her story. She faked it.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 01:23 AM
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29. This is not the reaction I would expect out of DUers...
This situation is not a reflection on Obama whether true or not. Just because this happens to involve politics doesn't mean we need to belittle a woman's claim; I know most of us at DU are better than that, and we wouldn't jump to such a quick conclusion in other circumstances. A woman's claim of battery should always be taken seriously until proven otherwise; cmon we are way better than this people. This matter is still being investigated; let's let the investigators do their work, shady story or not.
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smiley_glad_hands Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:29 AM
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31. So tell us what reaction you do expect from DUers?
I gotta call it like I see it. She's a lying sack of shit.
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:33 AM
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33. $50 bet to the candidate of your choosing. I say she is lying...
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yardwork Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:39 AM
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38. You really are new to the game, aren't you?
Google Parlock and read up on him.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:47 AM
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47. Yes I am, thanks for the warm welcome...hugs and kisses ;)
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Lex Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:41 AM
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41. "let's let the investigators do their work"
yeah, we here at DU are totally obstructing their work . . . :eyes:


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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:47 AM
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43. You're funny!
nt
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:52 AM
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49. Get off your fake high horse -- she's a liar
Your faux self-righteousness is tiresome. Obama's gonna win. Live with it.
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newtothegame Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:00 PM
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50. Thanks...love ya
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HCE SuiGeneris Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:31 AM
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32. Where are the cuts and abrasions from her broken eyeglasses when she was "punched"?
Edited on Fri Oct-24-08 10:31 AM by BushDespiser12
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:40 AM
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39. The thing that makes me think this may be a false report
is that if someone was scratching a "B" on my cheek I wouldn't be holding still for it. How did the person make such a perfect "B" on her while she was struggling? Unless she was unconcious while the person did it.
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luvspeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:03 AM
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44. so you're the one that gave her the idea!
She must be reading DU!:D
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TuxedoKat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 12:14 PM
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52. LOL, no apparently she realized
that on her own, probably after being questioned for several hours as I heard it was the second time she was questioned she said she was unconscious. Welcome to DU!
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 10:45 AM
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42. Ashley Todd: Poster Child For A Mentally Defective Republican Party 2008...
Congratulations republicans! You've sown so much unbalanced death & chaos into the world, it has all now taken sprout in vacant, soul-less eyes of your youth.
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lunatica Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:11 AM
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45. Also poster child for racism n/t
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LostinVA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 11:50 AM
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48. I've had black eyes -- I knew that wasn't a shiner when I first saw the photo
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