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Joanne98 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:54 PM
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Cops don't believe Ashley Todd's story....

Guess what, the cops aren't buying either...

"Politically Motivated" Mutilation - Real or Hoax?
Pittsburgh law enforcement sources tell TMZ they have serious questions about the authenticity of the alleged victim who says she had her face cut by a politically-motivated attacker.

We're told there are several things about the alleged attack that don't add up. A Pittsburgh PD official says they are conducting a "thorough investigation" and have not determined if the alleged attack is real or a hoax. But we're told there is definitely a level of skepticism.

As we reported, the alleged victim claims she went to an ATM and when she turned around, a large dark-skinned man took the money she withdrew. She says when he noticed she had a McCain/Palin bumper sticker on her car, he became enraged, knocked her down and cut a "B" in her face.

We're told the woman refused medical assistance at the scene and said she would go to the hospital the next day.

http://www.tmz.com/

And shockingly, even WingNut Central has gone all mavrickey and publicly doubted the veracity of this college republican's story of being victimized by a scary black man on her accidental journey to the wrong side of the tracks.

Why that McCain volunteer’s "mutilation" story smells awfully weird
By Michelle Malkin

• October 23, 2008 06:43 PM

Throughout my career, I’ve covered dozens of fake hate crimes — campus hate crime hoaxes, Muslim hate crime hoaxes, fake noose hangings, etc., etc., etc. Most were perpetrated by liberals, but there have been some shameful ones on our side of the aisle as well.

I’ve reported on the great lengths that warped attention-seekers have gone to in perpetrating fake hate crimes, including beating themselves up, carving swastikas on their dorm room doors and walls, locking themselves in bathroom stalls, and burning down their own houses.

Which is why I’m not jumping up and down with outrage over Drudge-promoted story of a McCain volunteer claiming to have been attacked by a black man whom she accused of carving a "B" in her face after spotting her McCain bumper sticker.

.snip

Ace weighs in.

And from a reader who is a police officer:

"I’m a cop - 8th year now - and this McCain supporter attack just didn’t pass the "smell test" as soon as I read about it.

At this point, I’ll guess the shiner was inflicted either by a friend willingly as part of this hoax or a boyfriend in a domestic dispute.

The "B" is far to shallow and clean to be taken seriously. Reminds me of the stab wounds that a "hero" would get when fighting off a phantom attacker - far to superficial to have been done in what is a fairly violent encounter.

Either way, I’m voting McCain ;)

http://michellemalkin.com/...

If this college republican is lying she needs to be charged.

http://www.dailykos.com/storyonly/2008/10/23/202615/23/1002/628531
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:55 PM
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1. Soooo obvious it's makeup!
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 07:58 PM
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2. Why is the B backwards?
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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:02 PM
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4. Why is it so, for all intent: pristine! If someone were coming at me with such purpose...
that would have been one of the most fucked up looking *B's* ever maybe half ending up behind my ear in between me kicking someone in balls throughout the process believe it!!
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:26 PM
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18. Another thing too, how did he know it was her car?
Was she close enough for him to tell which car was hers? Was it the only car on the street? If so, why would she stop?

The more I think about this incident, the less I believe her.

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bridgit Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:33 PM
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19. No doubt! How did 'he' know she didn't live round the corner and walk to the bank?
Naw, this is a little girl lost in a world of worms & spider webs. I'd say she earned her 15min but you know what? She's already in OT with mere moments being invested thus far. She'll be taking out the soiled sheets in no time at all ho hum: the duplicitous tart is dead long live the duplicitous tart
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:51 PM
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21. "long live the duplicitous tart" LOL! Well said! n/t
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Roy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:35 PM
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33. Yep... looks like she was kinda posing for this one n/t
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OffWithTheirHeads Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:07 PM
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7. Either because Geraldo did it or cause freepers can't spell
Maybe it's DaVinci mirror writing.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:10 PM
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12. I bet it looked good to her in the mirror. nt
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:11 PM
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13. No it's not!


(at least not if you do it right!)
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Kerrytravelers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:52 PM
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28. OMG! It took me a minute to figure out you photoshoped that!
:rofl:



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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:54 PM
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29. I was hoping FOx or Drudge or someone would pay me for it
After all, if you're going to try propaganda, you need to get the best! :P
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adamuu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:31 PM
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32. DRAWN WHILE LOOKING IN MIRROR n/t
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speedoo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:02 PM
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5. Bogus black eye. Eyelids not swollen. Makeup. nt
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:05 PM
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6. the "injured" eye is larger than the other one!
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:08 PM
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9. Having had more then my share of black eyes...
(Between a life of Karate and some bar bouncing, you'll have that.), and having worked in theater a bit, I would opt for that eye and that cheek, especially with the reversed B, being faked.

For instance, black eyes are swollen eyes...also, that thing is just a bit too "perfect" in coloration. I can tell you that a black eye turns a lot of fun colors. And, where are the extra dings and scrapes that would come from a large dark man blackening one's eye and struggling with you while trying to monogram your cheek?

Finally, ask any cop: the weapon they do not want to face is a knife. Knives cut your shit up. They do not scratch you. They open you up, make you bleed and sometimes die.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:15 PM
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15. I got a shiner as a teen, and my eyeball was red...
...almost every shiner I've seen, there's redness in the eyeball. Her eye is as white as the other.

Am I wrong?:shrug:
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Tandalayo_Scheisskopf Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:17 PM
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16. No, Dennis.
You are correct. Prediction: This young lady is on the thin cusp of disgrace and infamy.
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:35 PM
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20. I got hit in the brow with a thrown baseball bat during gym when I was a kid
my eye swelled shut like a big baseball. then it turned black, blue. then nice purple, finally yellow. the white of my eye was completely red for at least a week.
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alittlelark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:09 PM
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11. Is that supposed to be the 'real' picture?
Damn, they could have made use of McCain's $8,600 a month make-up artist. At least it MIGHT have looked real then.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=132x7559061
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Cronus Protagonist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:55 PM
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30. I think this one is the real one.... not sure..... lol :)
(now, if she had only hired a professional make-up artist)

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EmeraldCityGrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:00 PM
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3. If this is a hoax I hope she's scarred for life.
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Ilsa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:09 PM
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10. She already us. Someone had to mistreat this young woman very
badly, I bet, for her to behave so badly and be used like this. The risk to her personal integrity is enormous. She's screwed up in the head, some McCainiacs figured it out, and they are using her.
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arcadian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:07 PM
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8. Drudge broke this story?
if proven a hoax it will be his death knell.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:14 PM
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14. No, he'll be martyred.
The GOP believe he is a journalist like they believe Palin is a "hockey mom."

Faith is stubborn.

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-..__... Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:23 PM
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17. Shades of Morton Downey Jr. and Al Sharpton type hoaxes?
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jpertello Donating Member (584 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 06:43 AM
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35. Shades of Tawanna Brawley
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TahitiNut Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:53 PM
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22. It's hard to believe a Bob Barr supporter would do that.
:dunce:
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flvegan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:58 PM
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23. When proven to be a fraud...have a nice life Ashley.
I hope you drag this baggage around like Samsonite.
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:02 PM
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25. The plot thickens! Check this out:
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WhaTHellsgoingonhere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 08:59 PM
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24. Nothing here. She claims to know the offender's motive.
NEXT
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Dennis Donovan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:03 PM
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26. Um... nope.
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brettdale Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 09:47 PM
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27. Dont believe it for one second
Its just another stunt, people are sick of joe the plumber, so they are trying this.
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Ghost in the Machine Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:02 PM
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31. Well, 'Ashley the Slasher' *does* sound a lot better than Joe the plumber, doesn't it?
....."and next up folks, we have Slashin' Ashley Todd doing a dark, street theater drama awash with political scandal... and a LOT of bull shit!....."




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MzNov Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-23-08 10:58 PM
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34. Er, is there a CSI Pittsburgh?

Let the evidence speak for itself. :rofl:

This is so disgusting to me that someone would deliberately deface herself to set up another human being. There is just no bottom to these bottom dwellers. I hope they find out the truth and she has to apologize to everyone.

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Freddie Stubbs Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:00 AM
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36. This will be a simple mystery to solve...
It was at an ATM. Every ATM has a security camera. Just review the tape.
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malaise Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:02 AM
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37. Like clockwork
http://www.pittsburghlive.com/x/pittsburghtrib/news/election/s_594939.html
Police planned to administer a polygraph test to Ashley Todd, 20, because her statements about the attack conflict with evidence from the Citizens Bank ATM where she claims the incident occurred, police said.
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radfringe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-24-08 07:05 AM
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38. few thoughts
the 'backwards B' - the photo itself could have been mistakingly "mirrored", we won't really know for sure if the "B" is backwards or the photo mirrored until we see her on TV

"B" is very neatly drawn, no raggy wide or pointy marks on the "arcs" - the only way this could be done is if she held very still and the attacker drew it slowly and held the knife like a pen or pencil. If someone were "cutting" into your face - would you hold that still - even minimal moving your head back and forth would distort the marks.

"cut" is shallow looking more like a scratch than a cut, doesn't even seem to have drawn blood.

B=Barack? why "B", why not "O"? Why not "B" on one cheek and an "O" on the other? If she held still enough for the "B", wouldn't she have held still enough for the "O"? Meanwhile, couldn't the "B" stand for 'Bitch' and not Barak?

the Black-eye - well from the photo the eye does look slightly puffy, as far as the bruising - looks like smeared mascara. Whether it is a black eye or not will have to wait until we see some better photos/video. I'm sure she'll be on faux-news at some point this weekend

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