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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:08 AM
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What I don't get is: How can the Republicans complain about "class warfare"
and claim to stand up for "Joe Sixpack" at the same time?

Isn't standing up for the working class the essential point of class warfare? :shrug:
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:09 AM
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1. Of course not.
Edited on Fri Oct-17-08 08:09 AM by DireStrike
Class warfare is when you take money from the rich or powerful for any reason. Anything else is not class warfare. :sarcasm:
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UnrepentantUnitarian Donating Member (887 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:14 AM
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3. Or when you take away tax loopholes, dodges (foreign addresses)...
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:22 AM
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5. Right, right. That can be abstracted by the corporate media into "taking away money"
Or opportunity, or freedom...
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JaneQPublic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:27 AM
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7. Yep. "Class Warfare" is GOPSpeak...
...for anything that diminishes the privileges, advantages, and entitlements of the Republican Country Club and Corporate CEO Set.
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jeepnstein Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:41 AM
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9. Yeah, they're afraid someone will declare it some day.
I remember back in school we had this guy in our department who flatly refused to read or discuss Marx in any way shape or form. He said it was completely in error and contrary to the American Way. I'm sure the Republican Party is full of those types. They fear what they don't understand. They fear a social theory because they live in a world of absolutes. And the best part for them is this fear is what they are selling to the rest of the country.

Marx clearly spells out what it takes for a society to either trigger, or if you read it carefully, what it takes to avoid class struggle. It's just a tool, like any other political thought, to help you shape a society that is to your liking. I guess that means we all know what the Republicans don't like, poor or working class people.
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WCGreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:10 AM
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2. It's code for communism...
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Canuckistanian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:21 AM
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4. Their goal is make MORE Joe Sixpacks
And to get them to parrot the same "class warfare" BS.

I find it astounding that underpaid and underemployed people fight so hard to elect people who have no intention of improving the life of a Joe Sixpack.

Such is the power of the Limbaughs and Hannitys who haven't bought a six-pack themselves for decades.
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rug Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:23 AM
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6. The Republicans are expert at class warfare. They've been attacking working people for generations.
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DireStrike Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 08:32 AM
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8. I think you're right.
All war is deception. They are able to convince their enemy that not only are they not waging war on them, they're fighting on their side!

Come ye masters of war, indeed. Helps that they have all the resources to work with.
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old mark Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 09:08 AM
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10. The republican ideal working person would work for next to nothing,
have no benefits, no political voice, no unions, no pensions. Their ideal worker would leas a healthy life till their usefull working years were over, then promptly and quietly die, leaving just enough offspring to take their place in the workforce.

Anything other than this they term class warfare, but this only applies when Democrats do it to Republicans. When they do it to us, it's called good business.

mark
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Time for change Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:17 AM
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11. Not according to the official GOP story
According to them, whenever we (the taxpayers) gives money or any other benefit to the wealthy, Joe sixpack benefits immensely, because the money comes trickling down to him. And not only that! By giving breaks to the wealthy, we keep the American dream alive for Joe sixpack, giving him something to strive for.

And anyway, according to them the wealthy don't get any breaks. They work hard for all the money they get. To interfere with that would destroy our economic system -- thus the phrase "class warfare".

It's a nice little story. And selling it to the American people is their only chance to win elections. Therefore, we've got to challenge it directly and assertively.
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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-18-08 05:19 AM
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13. I wish I lived in a time when this story had already worn itsself out.
It is obviously flawed reasoning, but it will take the human race a few centuries of trial and error to accept that.
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Winterblues Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 10:25 AM
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12. It is almost as if they were being hypocritical
But we know that could never be true about Republicans.. They are perfect in every detail...just ask one of them..
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