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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:12 PM
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The HATE just never stops with these people
Been doing some more checking on the Obama/Noose creation, and it seems that the posting is still up where it was originally posted (http://www.politicalbyline.com/2008/10/12/enough/) and even worse than still being up, the poster IS PROUD of it! As to some of his other rantings, yes the Secret Service has been notified about the creation...what if anything they will do other than be AWARE OF IT is, and may remain unknown. What is absolutely clear, is that Senator McCain, if he has any honor at all, will rebuke the post, the picture and its creator in a very PUBLIC FASHION. For sake of preserving evidence, the entire post from his site with his updates is posted below: Note his back up blog http://pbblogbackup.blogspot.com/ FAST BREAKING NEWS ON THIS STORY...must have gotten to the post just before the Secret Service TORE IT DOWN:
Oops! Page Not Found (Error 404)

READ MORE: http://washingtonscandal.blogspot.com/2008/10/political-bylines-hate-crime-posting.html

The offending photo
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YOY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:18 PM
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1. JUST TRY IT YOU FUCKING FUCKS!!!
I'LL FUCKING LEAD THE FUCKING POSSE TO FUCKING DISEMBOWEL EVERY LAST MOTHER FUCKING ONE OF YOUR WORTHLESS ASSES!!!

Breathe Rob...breathe...peaceful thoughts...peaceful thoughts...
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begin_within Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:18 PM
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2. Unbelievable. Actually, yes, I believe it now.






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Supersedeas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:01 PM
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10. 'Merica is Boooosh Country
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MadrasT Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:20 PM
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3. That makes me physically ill.
I freakin' hate people. I really, really do. People like that, anyway. I can't believe they're breathing MY AIR with impunity.

The creator of that vile... THING belongs in prison. Throw away the fucking key. :cry:
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Parker CA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:26 PM
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4. It looks like his backup site is up and running again. The Secret Service better be on this!! n/t.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:30 PM
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5. We'll have to see if the Secret Service does anything.
That will tell us a lot.
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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:04 PM
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11. the feds rarely "publish" what they do about these cases
they question the offenders and determine the severity of the threat on a public servants life. i received a visit many years ago over a "problem i had with a draft board..i received a call for the fbi and he determined that i was`t a "threat" and the police chief grew up with my dad.

when reagan visited the ss/fbi arrived a week before his visit and questioned several people ..one loud mouth drunk was questioned and released.

they determine the severity and whether the offender has the means to carry out the threat.
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EFerrari Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:08 PM
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13. That's a good point. And, in the same spirit, it would be in keeping
with smoothing the water to say "it's under control" or something to that effect. For people who still believe the SS is neutral and not Bush's, anyway.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:34 PM
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6. This from the blogspot link:
"Update #4: Well, it’s now on DailyKOS and I suppose I will be the next drive-by media story. That’s fine. Because the point is being missed by the Left totally, which really is not a big shock to me. I will say this, I do not intend to pull this posting, at all. I’m proud of it, that I was able to make the Left Liberals have a knee-jerk reaction. I will go to jail before I pull it. There is a thing called the First Amendment to the constitution and I will go to jail before I will have my first admendment rights taken fro me. I will not be intimidated by anyone, at all."

KKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK

Unbelievable! The lengths the repubs will go to win is criminal. Suggesting death to a candidate has to be a crime...doesn't it? So sad.

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madrchsod Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:57 PM
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7. stormfront received a call from the ss/fbi
over a posters threats to a political candidate. the owner of the site gave the feds the guys name etc..

now they monitor the site with a fine tooth comb.


this site is really skirting the law and i`m sure who ever owns that site is answering questions from some guys you never want to answer to.
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ColoradoMagician Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:58 PM
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8. Looks like his name is Chuck Adkins
When I went to his site I clicked on his paypal donation button.

That gave me an email that the payment would go to. tpblogeditor@gmail.com


Then I Yahooed the email. (I know, I just don't Google.) http://search.yahoo.com/search?p=tpblogeditor@gmail.com&ei=UTF-8&fr=hp-psdt


Then I started clicking on the sites.

http://www.nola.com/forums/searching/index.ssf?artid=38719

"28777.1. Ooops!
by k8cpa, 7/21/07 15:20 ET
Re: Looking for my Uncle by k8cpa, 7/21/07
I guess it would be helpful to put my e-mail address in here... contact me at tpblogeditor@gmail.com I'm Herbs nephew, and I a little pissed off, that my Uncle would just freakin' drop outta sight and upset my dad. so, the freakin' idiot better get ahold of the family!"




http://www.nola.com/forums/searching/index.ssf?artid=38718 (This was his original post on NOLA.)

"28777. Looking for my Uncle
by k8cpa, 7/21/07 15:17 ET
Hi Guys,
I am looking for my uncle. His name is Herbert Wayne Adkins. His last known location was Cape Coral, Florida. He is originaly from Detroit, Michigan. His brother and family would really like to speak with him. If you know herbert or know where he is, please e-mail me and I will pass the info on to my dad.

Thanks,

-Chuck"





http://www.nola.com/forums/searching/index.ssf?artid=38720(This is his update)

"28777.1.1. Also....
by k8cpa, 7/21/07 15:22 ET
Re: Looking for my Uncle by k8cpa, 7/21/07
Herb knows me as Patrick, my middle name...."





http://www.freerepublic.com/~chuckadkins/ (He is also a Freeper)

"My Blog tells all about me. http://www.thepopulistblog.com for the long version.

I’m a 35 year old, Right of center Independent voter. I ain’t quite a Right Winger, and I ain’t quite a Left Winger.

Anyhow, I’m happy to be here and will try and contribute when I can.

-Chuck"




http://chucksplace.wordpress.com/2008/04/12/e-mail-that-i-had-to-send-tonight/ (This one actually shows his connection with the Political Byline blog and threatens to contact the FBI if someone commented on his blog again.)

"Here’s the e-mail that I sent her for matter of public record:

Received: by 10.78.166.12 with HTTP; Fri, 11 Apr 2008 22:39:47 -0700 (PDT)
Message-ID: <c3a04f3c0804112239h21d894aevdb65ae5e5a6ace83@mail.gmail.com>
Date: Sat, 12 Apr 2008 01:39:47 -0400
From: “Political Byline” <tpblogeditor@gmail.com>
To: svsoccerchic07@aol.com
Subject: Look….
MIME-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: multipart/alternative;
boundary=”—-=_Part_39071_20825975.1207978787008″
Delivered-To: tpblogeditor@gmail.com——=_Part_39071_20825975.1207978787008
Content-Type: text/plain; charset=UTF-8
Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit
Content-Disposition: inline

I’m going to put this to you as plain as I can make it.

I have your First and Last Name. Your General Location, with a few key
strokes, I could have every piece of information on you, that I would need
to file a internet stalking complaint with the FBI.

Now, do you *really* want to push me?

Freedom of speech is a blessed thing and I am entitled to my opinions, you
don’t like it? Don’t come to my Blog.

I didn’t ask for your opinions and I really don’t want to hear them at all.

Now, you leave one more comment in my Blog? and there will be a FBI agent at
your door Monday ask you about the threats and stalking.

First and Last Warning.

-Chuck Adkins
http://chucksplace.wordpress.com/
http://politicalbyline.blogspot.com/
http://waywardfundamentalist.wordpress.com
http://cpa313.townhall.com/Default.aspx"



I am still looking around for more info on him, but this post is long enough.


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Bennyboy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 03:58 PM
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9. I am sorry for putting the photo so everyone could see it....
I meant to hide it. Sorry.
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ColoradoMagician Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:08 PM
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12. Also Looks like he is from Lincoln Park, MI
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ColoradoMagician Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:18 PM
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14. the text of his post
Enough!
Oct 12th, 2008
by The Libertarian Paleo-Conservative.


I have stood silently and have tried to keep out of this foray as much as I possibly could.

But I cannot any longer. It seems that there are some on the left, who seem to think that it is cute to make graphics about punching Sarah Palin in the Mouth. (Hat Tip to Michelle)

It also seems that some think it is cute to make bumper stickers saying, “Abort Sarah Palin”.

On the other hand, I did scold John McCain a bit for whipping his crowds up in to the frenzy and then confronted with the more ugly aspects of that frenzy, he sought to quell it.

However, it seems that there are those on the left, who want to turn this into an ugly election about race. I say, let us give them what they want. Seeing Obama’s Black friends are trying to compare John McCain to a highly racist Alabama Governor from the 1960’s.

They want racism? It does seem that way. Since the left wants to make nasty drawings of violence towards women, I figure it is only fair to do this.

I originally made this graphic a while back when this issue raised it’s ugly head before, but I quickly pulled it, because I felt I would be adding to the poison of the situation. But it has become clear that the left is not interested in running an honorable campaign, so, I think it is time to fight fire, with fire.

Here it is, in all it’s nasty glory, taking every nuance to the next level: (Then the picture above)
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ColoradoMagician Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:26 PM
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15. I am almost tempted to send him 30 cents
for his legal fund.
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lpbk2713 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 04:41 PM
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16. People like this are validated every day by the RW Radio Hatemongers.



Shittoheads tune in to get a fresh dose of hate and venom every day and they don't leave disappointed.

Then they do idiotic stuff like this in order to seek approval from their peers. I have no doubt if

they had a brain they'd take it out and play with it. They've had eight years of 'stupid' as a role model.








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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 06:36 PM
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17. According to the site owner, he was doing it in response to something else.
This:

http://www.afineexample.com/other/other02palin.html

It shows three panels. In the first panel, is a drawing of Sarah Palin, with the word M.I.L.P. (which he delineates as Mother I'd Like to Punch). The second panel has the same drawing, and the third is Sarah Palin being punched and having her teeth knocked out. It's an ugly and brutal sentiment on many levels. The creator is one of those artists that seems to take great pride in offending, or at least sees it as a by-product of his goals:

"Aren’t you worried that your site will offend people?

...I don’t know what to tell you. Some things deserve criticism and debate. Furthermore, this is primarily a humour site. There cannot be humour without cruelty...."

So, if the story is true, the creator of the Obama picture was intentionally trying to be offensive to make a counter point. It seems like two people who just need to meet each other face to face with a bat and work out their issues, and leave the rest of us alone.



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ColoradoMagician Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:08 PM
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18. Most death threats are in response to something else
doesn't excuse it or make it anymore legal.

Most bank robbers will rob banks in response to their own lack of money. Doesn't make it right, or legal.

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riverdeep Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:40 AM
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22. Well, I agree that he should have listened to his first insticnt,
as he tells it, and not further poisoned the debate. But it does alter it somewhat in that he didn't just come up with this out of thin air. Those chain of events need to be mentioned otherwise it seems as if you're cherry-picking aspects of the story.

It's really poor judgement on his part, but he also seems to know it's offensive and created it specifically for that reason. As opposed to someone that actually believes this should be Obama's fate. If he wandered into threatening a federal employee area willfully or out of ignorance, I don't know, and I doubt the Secret Service will care. And again, you may know more about this guy then I do, I'm simply going by what he himself wrote. I've never heard of this guy before, and hopefully won't hear from him again.

There are unfortunately many examples to choose from of people posting things that don't even have that awareness.
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ColoradoMagician Donating Member (228 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 10:42 PM
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19. I have posted just a few links about this clod.
If you started to look at the multiple email addresses that this guy posts under, you would start to see what an asshole and dangerous fuck this guy is. His own email address is also used as his church's email address. (It is different than the one I posted above.) Start googling each bit of information that you get on this guy and you will see he is very active on multiple sites with multiple email addresses, and oddly, another of his email addresses is the official email address of his church.

I never brought you into this, you brought yourself. If you don't want to be involved, don't post on DU how we should leave you alone. I am going after this guy, not you. Don't click the DU link or especially comment if you don't want to be involved.

I have a huge problem with these racist posters and I might start to have a problem with you if you are suddenly asking not be involved when you were not involved in the first place. I posted this stuff, because I think the guy is dangerous, if you want to be included in that category, no prob. Otherwise, you weren't, "involved", why bring yourself into this?
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:31 PM
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20. The image should not be on DU BECAUSE it should not be circulated
Edited on Thu Oct-16-08 11:32 PM by Mimosa
The image is EVIL. I'm an artist. I believe in free speech. I'm also psychic. Please remove this image from DU.

Freepers come here. they will take it from here and use it to inflame already violent people.
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Bobbie Jo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 12:57 AM
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21. I agree...it doesn't belong here, or anywhere. Disgusting.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:53 AM
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23. Yes. It needs to be taken down. nt
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Mimosa Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 01:58 AM
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24. My reason to want this GONE is NOT censorship...
I want that image OFF of DU because it will 'get around' and exacerbate a bad meme. It will contribute to the critical mass of hatred directed at one good man.

PLEASE take it OFF. It can be described. But it's not art, it's not enlightening us about something we do not already know. DU hosting the image will become an online source for lifting it and spreading it around.
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Kitty Herder Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:29 AM
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25. I completely agree.
I not in favor of censorship at all. I just don't like the image being hosted on this site. The more places it can be found, the more it will be seen by those who will might spread it around to their right-wing friends. It needs to be made less available, not more available.
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illuminaughty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-17-08 02:35 AM
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26. Creepy
I was just looking at your post number 777 and thinking how weird that was and then read your post.
Gives me chills.
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