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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 09:43 PM
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SNAP! "White Shift" - More Votes, More Democracy, More Election Protection
The candidate with the most votes deserves to win. It's never OK to let the loser take all.

Last week, we found out about the "net new" Democratic primary voters. This is a huge voting block in the largest swing states. It will be about 14% of the electorate this time.

Now there's "white shift" - previously committed white Republicans and independents are shifting to Obama according to a recent poll that asks the right questions.

SNAP! "White Shift" for Obama in VA, NC and FL


http://www.scoop.co.nz/stories/HL0810/S00218.htm

and on BuzzFlash.Net


From - Public Policy Polling, Tom Jensen, Oct. 10, 2008


Along with the new 2008 primary voters and newly registered voters since the primaries, this group is another way of assuring that turnout is up enough to let everybody know who actually wins.
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 10:17 PM
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1. Your Mission, Should You Choose To Accept It
Is to stay on this for the next 21 days.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:04 PM
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2. I plan to. It's good stuff...fun stuff...the peoples epection protection policy
Can't steal it if there are way too many votes in the right places. It's quite heartening to see this happen in Virginia and North Carolina.

Back at it!
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Me. Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:28 PM
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4. I Read
That for McShame to even have a chance of winning he needs to take Mi, Wi, Oh & NC. If he loses even one he's done. Bama only needs one of them.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:55 PM
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6. That analysis is the dirge for McCain - Palin
I'd say Senora Palin's stars are crossed in the extreme. If she could radiate enough negative vibes to bring down McCain, then imagine how she'll do back in Alaska where people must really resent her. Last nationally prominent Republican of great significance:

"Gruening’s most notable act as Senator was being, along with Wayne Morse of Oregon, one of only two Senators to vote against the Gulf of Tonkin Resolution. " http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ernest_Gruening

Gruening to Palin - "devo" in the extreme

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msedano Donating Member (682 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:18 PM
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3. aristotle: other things being equal...
Edited on Tue Oct-14-08 11:19 PM by msedano
a methodological question, then a comment. in 2004, were whites 65% of the vote and went 35% for that jerk Kerry, but in 2008 whites now have shrunken to 73% of voters but have become 52% for Obama and 42% for McCain, so whites have shifted to the Democratic ticket from 35% to 52% of whites will likely be Obama voters? (Virginia)

at any rate, back to my pal Aristotle, who averred that other things being equal, right will prevail over wrong.

so as i read the reports, as election day draws near, the bandwagon effect will take on gathering-no-moss proportions. as more and more white closeted fairness believers realize their white friends are voting obama, these whites will step into the light and free themselves of self-imposed racist behaviors?

i grew up with white people--okies--down the street. poor white trash living in our part of town. i can't think of a more decent neighbor than some of those okies. but dang, they were stubborn and dyed-in-the-wool intransigent when it came to supporting raza or black issues. that was the 1950s.

in the army, one of my tightest buddies was a stone anglo racist from little rock arkansas. he was amazed at our friendship; called me "mexican" so i called him "arkie". but you know what? pushed rhetorically up against the wall--as i regularly did, his only objection to the soul brothers was "they smell funny." he used to tell me i'd be welcome in his house, break bread with his wife even, but i'd have to come in the back door to avoid the prying eyes of his neighbors. today i'm sure he'd be proud to welcome me in the front door because i know, in his heart, he is not the racist pig his public acts proclaimed him, and beside that, his neighbors all are voting obama, too, per your data.

you may not believe this, but some of my best friends...yeah, you'd believe it.

all my life i've taken a lot of shit from white people just because i am brown. i never held it against them as a group. man, i could tell you some hair-raising stories about assholes and contrast these with heart-warming tales of really decent gente.

now, thanks to the obama candidacy, push comes finally to shove in our culture. people's true colors are being revealed and i like what i see. just proves what most of us have always known. yes?

that's great data, collins. keep up the usual good work, tocayo.

(tocayo is a word in spanish indicating we share the same name, but implies much more; a mutual obligation to honor the name. good work, tocayo.)

recommended.

mvs
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Tue Oct-14-08 11:51 PM
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5. tocayo in both directoins!!1
"now, thanks to the obama candidacy, push comes finally to shove in our culture. people's true colors are being revealed and i like what i see. just proves what most of us have always known. yes?

that's great data, collins. keep up the usual good work, tocayo.

(tocayo is a word in spanish indicating we share the same name, but implies much more; a mutual obligation to honor the name. good work, tocayo.)"

the white column represents the % of white, black or latino votes to the right of it. the red/blue colors indicate who won (04) or is ahead (08). the fact that i'm explaining this indicates the chart needs improvement;) rofl... but that's ok. today is the day it all tipped over for the thieves. not being able to steal the election and fearing prosecution for their thefts in dc and wall street, they're busily planning to exit to belize, dubai, and anywhere else that will take them.
:sarcasm: it was nice of them to gin up the very worst elements of society, who unlike arkie, have no depth to their character since they are unable to countenance contradictions. too bad for them.

now we can sit back and wait for the big melt down and hope that obama can translate all he must have learned into a real plan to get us cooking again, speaking of which ...
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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:19 AM
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11. About the method..
Virginia was 67% white in 2004, and is now 73% white in 2008 (more people of color now registered than in 2004). In 2004 the white vote broke 65% to 35% for Republicans. This year it looks like 52% (down 13%) to 42% (up 7%), still in favor of the Republicans, but by a much tinier margin.

:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 05:24 PM
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16. Hey Username
That's clear. I suppose I could make the chart more difficult;)

The entire report is well worth reviewing.

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:04 AM
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17. Hi auto!
Keep up the good work. I always try and follow what you're up to. This time things may just swing in our direction for a change.

:hi:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:19 AM
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18. It's swinging -- what a deal!
Here's a funny for you http://palinaspresident.com/

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Usrename Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 01:46 PM
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19. lol! Have you seen McCain's roomates?
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-16-08 11:06 PM
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20. Geez, I thought those were my roommates;)
Thnx!!!
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althecat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:38 AM
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7. Off to greatest with you....
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:01 AM
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9. Muchos Gracias Senor!
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formercia Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 07:09 AM
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8. John McCain is a stealth Liberal
The Manchurian Candidate of the Left. How else could you explain such a pathetic campaign.

He was programmed by the communists in Hanoi to self-destruct in the event he attained the goal of being a presidential candidate.

Bill Kristol, eat your heart out. :rofl:
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:03 AM
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10. Kristol has the remote control;)

McCain's self destruction is evident but he has been able to spend a lot of time with his new
pal, "Meet my little Friend" Palin. Pray for the Moose population of Alaska!
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 11:33 AM
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12. Kick
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FogerRox Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 12:36 PM
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13. KnR just on "CooL" points alone.
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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 03:36 PM
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14. I wear sunglasses indoors too;) n/t

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autorank Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-15-08 05:22 PM
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15. Kick
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