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Smith_3 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:27 AM
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There are enough houses for everybody to live in one. There is enough land to grow enough food.
So any crisis regarding the distribution of either must be some sort of illusion caused by irrational behavior of people.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:31 AM
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1. Why is it irrational to want *all* the houses and *all* the land?
Rationality is an individual concept. It's rational for me to want all my stuff and all your stuff too. Greed, although not a virtue, is also not necessarily irrational.

Public policy should guarantee the general welfare in the face of private greed.
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bean fidhleir Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 10:38 AM
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2. No, actually it's highly IRrational for you to want everything.
I'm sure that if you work on it a bit, you'll see why.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 11:13 AM
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3. Give me all your stuff, and I'll contemplate the error of my ways. n/t
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Coventina Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 11:20 AM
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4. You're assuming that people are cabable of that higher thinking.
Sadly, it seems that not everyone is.
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lumberjack_jeff Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 11:50 AM
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8. I'd argue that no one is.
Watch kids play with toys. Kids who are initially disinclined to negotiate for their fair share quickly learn.

You don't get a fair share without pushing for something more.

An outsider can easily do the King Solomon thing, but insiders can't.
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cliffordu Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 11:32 AM
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5. "Public policy should guarantee the general welfare in the face of private greed."
That, my good friend, is EXACTLY FUCKING RIGHT.
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marions ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 11:39 AM
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6. greed is only rational
in a society that forces its people to operate out of a sense of lack.

Greed is not rational when you consider that we could easily provide for every person in this nation to live a middle class life if we really wanted to (and still have enough to help other countries).

We don't choose to do that.

Greed is nothing but insecurity and delusion.
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hfojvt Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Mon Oct-13-08 11:41 AM
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7. even more so. why is it irrational to want the things I have worked for?
Or at least to exchange them for value rather than give them away?
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