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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 10:58 PM
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I need a history lesson re: Hoover. I don't want to sound stupid
but I before george boosh I was basically apathetic towards politics, spending the barest amount of time learning about the candidates at the last minute and voting straight Dems. I used to read mostly fiction - Koontz, King, etc. Though I have, since boosh came along, switched over to non-fiction - Gore, Klein, Palast, etc., I still consider myself sparsely read. So, I have alot of catching up to do in that department.

And, in my own defense where Hoover is concerned, I really have had no reason or desire to read about the Great Depression since high school. However, it looks as if he had alot to do with the GD and now I'm seeing his name everywhere during this financial crisis.

Could someone please give me a history lesson here as it relates to the situation we're in now? How are things similar? How are the different? Etc. In the meantime, I will go do some additional research.

Thanks so much in advance to anyone that can help me understand how Hoover's time relates to our time.
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dubeskin Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 11:02 PM
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1. The big way he mirrors Bush is that
Edited on Sun Oct-12-08 11:04 PM by dubeskin
They both aren't doing a whole bunch to help. Hoover was a staunch pro-business Republican, and he for the most part he just sat back and let it all play out. If my memory serves me correctly, he did actually try to help businesses by lowering taxes, although it never helped in the long-run. However, Hoover was an ultimate lame-duck, and his non-action is one of the reasons the Great Depression got even greater.

Also, in this time, Hoover pushed for the famous Hawley-Smoot tariff to be passed which slowed imports which further exacerbated the problem.

Another way they're similar is that Hoover actually called Preisndet-elect Roosevelt to the White House after election and before inauguration to discuss the problem, although in the end nothing really resulted.

Want me to elaborate though on the Great Depression's causes are different from now though?
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Eric J in MN Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 11:03 PM
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2. bailling out banks
Reconstruction Finance Corporation

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

The Reconstruction Finance Corporation (RFC) was an independent agency of the United States government chartered during the administration of Herbert Hoover in 1932. It was modeled after the War Finance Corporation of World War I. The agency gave $2 billion in aid to state and local governments and made loans to banks, railroads, farm mortgage associations, and other businesses. The loans were nearly all repaid. It was continued by the New Deal and played a major role in handling the Great Depression in the United States and setting up the relief programs that were taken over by the New Deal in 1933. (Sprinkel 1952)

It disbursed $1.5 billion in 1932, $1.8 billion in 1933, and $1.8 billion in 1934. Then it dropped to about $350 million a year. On the eve of World War II it greatly expanded to build munitions factories, disbursing $1.8 billion in 1941. The total from 1932 through 1941 was $9.465 billion.(Sprinkel 1952)

Hoover appointed Atlee Pomerene of Ohio to head the agency in July 1932. Hoover's reasons for his surprising reorganization of the RFC included: the broken health and resignations of M. Eugene Myers, Paul Bestor, and Charles Gates Dawes; the failure of banks to perform their duties to their clientele or to aid American industry; the country's general lack of confidence in the current board; and Hoover's inability to find any other man who had the ability and was both nationally respected and available. (Shriver 1982)

The RFC was bogged down in bureaucracy and failed to disburse much of its funds. It failed to reverse the growth of mass unemployment before 1933. Butkiewicz (1995) shows that the RFC initially succeeded in reducing bank failures, but the publication of the names of the recipients of loans beginning in August 1932 (at the demand of Congress) significantly reduced the effectiveness of its loans to banks because it appeared that political considerations had motivated certain loans. Partisan politics thwarted the RFC's efforts, though in 1932 monetary conditions improved because the RFC slowed the decline in the money supply.

Starting 1933 Franklin Delano Roosevelt kept the agency, increased the funding, streamlined the bureaucracy, and used it to help restore business prosperity, especially in banking and railroads. He appointed Texas banker Jesse Jones as head, and Jones turned RFC into an empire with loans made in every state. (Olson 1988)

The RFC also had a division that gave the states loans for emergency relief needs. In a case study of Mississippi, Vogt (1985) examined two areas of RFC funding: aid to banking, which helped many Mississippi banks survive the economic crisis, and work relief, which Roosevelt used to pump money into the state's relief program by extending loans to businesses and local government projects. Although charges of political influence and racial discrimination were levied against RFC activities, the agency made positive contributions and established a federal agency in local communities which provided a reservoir of experienced personnel to implement expanding New Deal programs.
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Whoa_Nelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 11:26 PM
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3. read
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PoiBoy Donating Member (842 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sun Oct-12-08 11:59 PM
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4. Thom Hartmann is a great resource for you...
here's a link to a transcript of his Oct. 1st, 2008 show where he examines excerpts from the New York Times 1929-1932...

http://www.thomhartmann.com/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=305&Itemid=119



and here's a link to his radio show of Oct. 1, 2008 Hour 2 for your listening pleasure and enlightenment:

http://green960.com/cc-common/podcast/single_podcast.html?podcast=hartmann.xml



also free Thom Hartmann and Rachel Maddow podcasts available daily at Green 960

http://www.green960.com/main.html



hope this helps..!! :hi:








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