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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:26 PM
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Did John McCain graduate 5th from the bottom of his class at the US Naval Academy?
Edited on Wed Oct-08-08 04:28 PM by NNN0LHI
He is just like Bush isn't he?

My brother told me this today and said that was all he needed to know to vote for Obama.

He said there were about 900 students in that graduating class.

Don
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MNDemNY Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:28 PM
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1. Just more senile.
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The Blue Flower Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:28 PM
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2. Watching with friends last night
They tivo-ed the debate so we were able to stop it every couple of minutes to discuss what they were saying. (Took two hours to just get through the first hour of debate.) One of the things we remarked on was his total lack of critical thinking skills about the issues. This wasn't just a third-rate politician dancing around the issues, this was someone who had no f--ing clue how to approach them intellectually.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:29 PM
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3. 894th out of 899, specifically.
As I understand it, it was more for discipline problems and unwillingness to apply himself than pure grades.
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NNN0LHI Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:32 PM
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5. Any idea if alcohol or other drugs were involved?
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endarkenment Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:38 PM
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8. Perhaps his mom drank while preggers
and his basic stupidity is a result of fetal alcohol syndrome. Aside from that, having met the man once, my impressions is 'dumb'.
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TheWraith Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 06:57 PM
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14. Not that I know of.
The reports I've seen mention conflicts with superiors and rulebreaking, but nothing more specific than that.
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VeggieTart Donating Member (698 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:28 PM
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15. Yeah, McCain was a drunk and extremely promiscuous
The article in Rolling Stone is just chilling.
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chupacabranation Donating Member (430 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:35 PM
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16. Current article? Sorry I'm so behind...link? n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:33 PM
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7. and the hooker he killed in Rio
:D




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SoCalDem Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:29 PM
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4. he BRAGGED about it..
:grr:.. maybe deep down he thought that if he failed, they would not make him actually serve..
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evlbstrd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:32 PM
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6. Yes.
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:40 PM
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9. With that low standing, getting orders to flight school was nearly
impossible unless your daddy was an admiral. After busting several perfectly good airplanes, he got assigned to fly A-1 Skyraiders. That is a WWII propeller attack aircraft that we unloaded on the South Vietnamese Air Force. Standing in flight school class determines choice of duty assignments. He had to finish pretty low at Pensacola to get that plum assignment.
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Porschenut1066 Donating Member (348 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:49 PM
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10. I thought he graduated last in his class. But maybe they bumped
him up a bit to please his Dad.
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AndyA Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:52 PM
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11. Statement from a pilot who was also shot down in Vietnam:
"We were heavily trained to avoid capture if we got shot down and survived the crash. Some of us were smart enough to not get caught."

That says it all in my book.
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FightingIrish Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:54 PM
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12. This article is very revealing
http://www.military.com/opinion/0,15202,164859_1,00.html.dk

Last week I heard a presentation by a retired Navy captain who worked with Butler in San Diego. Butler told her he had things about McCain that would curl your hair but, without documentation, he wouldn't repeat them for public consumption.
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City Lights Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 04:55 PM
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13. He is so like Bush that he wants to be president as a means of out-doing
his father and grandfather. Neither he nor Bush would have gotten into those schools without legacy connections. No more legacy-failure candidates!
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Stinky The Clown Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Wed Oct-08-08 07:38 PM
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17. And Palin went to five (or was it six) schools before someone graduated her.
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