"Unhinged" Palin tells gathering that Obama doesn't like American soldiers.

[Bluebear]

....Palin also told those gathered that Obama doesn't like American soldiers. "He said that our troops in Afghanistan are just, quote, 'air-raiding villages and killing civilians,' " she said, drawing boos from a crowd that had not been told Obama was actually appealing for more troops in Afghanistan.

"See, John McCain is a different kind of man: He believes in our troops," she said.

At times, Palin hinted at the GOP campaign's troubles. "It's going to be a hard-fought contest, especially in these swing states, some maybe we would not have expected," she admitted to donors. She allowed that "John McCain and I need to do a better job" of talking about the economy.

At other times, she had troubles of her own, as when she spoke over the weekend of "our neighboring country of Afghanistan" or when she got choked up at the Clearwater rally, saying, "Some of your signs just make me wanna cry," without explaining which ones or why.

But then the gloves came off, the heels came out, and Palin was once again talking about her opponent hanging out in a terrorist's living room.


http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2008/10/06/AR2008100602935.html

[Barack_America]

1. Well, I see the campaign finally let "Sarah be Sarah".

:eyes:

Unfortunately "Sarah" is a pretty lousy person and a shameful American.

[babylonsister]

2. She's making a huge fool of herself. McCain's record from VV is here:

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=132&topic_id=7282194

VV= VetVoice, and this is damning.

[bdamomma]

54. the more she slanders Obama the more states he takes.

but in the meantime she is dangerously spreading lies and hate. This woman could start a confrontation.

[Tandalayo_Scheisskopf]

3. If anyone ever wanted to know...

What it would be like with a candidate ripped from the fever swamps of FweepeeVille, well, now you know.

[CoffeeCat]

5. Only the lunatic fringe...

...brigade in the Republican party--likes Palin. In fact, they LOVE Sarah Palin!

Fortunately, for us--the rest of America knows what a total idiot she is.

My neighbor and I chatted about politics today. Her husband works for the
post office, and she is an accountant. They voted for Bush twice. I
brought up politics, and I never do--because I knew they had supported
Bush. I thought they would vote for McCain.

Nope, my neighbor said that they are voting for Obama, because this
country is going to hell, "and we need real change." I almost fell
into the begonias. I asked her what she thought of Palin and she just
rolled her eyes. I laughed.

These are life-long Republicans who are about ready to retire.

Everyone, even most of the Republicans knows that Palin is a joke, and
that she's part of what is sinking the McCain polls.

[Quantess]

17. They know if McCain were president, they might have to postpone their retirement.

There are a million and one great reasons to vote for Obama.

[bdamomma]

55. what percentage of Americans knows she is idiot?

[upi402]

4. yet another useful idiot. and they always turn on their useful idiots.

does she actually think she's one of them?

what a dumass for thinking it will be different this time.

[Richard Steele]

18. Yup. She's another Katherine Harris, but even less useful.

She'll be lucky if the RNC even leaves money on the dresser.
They sure as hell won't be taking her phone calls.

[Shallah Kali]

27. She thinks she is going to win because God is on her side just like her governership she thanks.....

Witchhunter Muthee for interceeding w/God to get her into that office. Remember she is part of a religious group that thinks we are in the end of days, Alaska is will be a final refuge for the faithful and anything going wrong with the world is just dandy because it means Jesus is coming any second now not that people F'ed things up big time.

[TransitJohn]

43. Totally.

That's what I've suspected from the start. But fuck her man...she's out there smearing a great American with outright lies. Her career is over after this election....doubt she makes it to D.C. as a Senator or Rep. from Alaska after this. She'll just be "damaged goods" to the RNC after this trainwreck of an election.

[grytpype]

6. From the article:

Worse, Palin's routine attacks on the media have begun to spill into ugliness. In Clearwater, arriving reporters were greeted with shouts and taunts by the crowd of about 3,000. Palin then went on to blame Katie Couric's questions for her "less-than-successful interview with kinda mainstream media." At that, Palin supporters turned on reporters in the press area, waving thunder sticks and shouting abuse. Others hurled obscenities at a camera crew. One Palin supporter shouted a racial epithet at an African American sound man for a network and told him, "Sit down, boy."


!!!!!

[grytpype]

7. Also FTA

And the crowd -- among them New York Jets owner Woody Johnson -- reacted without applause to Palin's Joe Six-Pack lines. After they didn't strike up the usual "Drill, baby, drill" or "USA" chants, Palin, rattled, read hurriedly through the rest of her speech.

[barbtries]

35. i'd like to see that sound bite n/t

[Mojorabbit]

8. Holy Shit! nt

[a la izquierda]

59. what in sam hell is wrong with these people?

i mean, thunder sticks are so 2000.







no, really, racial epithets at SOUND GUYS? i am so frustrated with sarah palin. i really want to email her and just unleash a tirade...i'm in mexico, so there is little worry that anyone will come after me unless i directly threaten her (which i'm not stupid enough to do, unlike her fucking moran supporters).

[lithiumbomb]

9. they're shoring up the base

I don't think most people on the fence buy this crap. They're trying to get their base out to the polls.

[myrna minx]

39. If they are still shoring up their base this close to the election, they are in serious trouble.

McCain/Palin are too busy whipping up their true believing cult, that they've only finally crystalized, that they are forgetting the rest of the country who doesn't get turned on by the red meat and the gnashing of teeth.

[gratuitous]

10. So, are we going to hear about this?

They're certainly reporting what's being said, but is there any analysis? I'm glad to see Milbank call her unhinged, but are we getting the full-on dissection we got about what Rev. Wright allegedly said?

[Raschel]

11. [i]"Some of your signs just make me wanna cry," without explaining which ones or why.[/i ]

Perhaps the signs had correct spellings on them, and it made her realize how dumb she is?

[Richard Steele]

19. Or some of them had two-syllable words, and that triggers her migraines.

:rofl:

[susanna]

52. "You betcha!" LOL n/t

[Octafish]

12. Wonder if she's up for a press conference?

If she can't handle questions from the press, how can she handle questions of state?

[Karenina]

31. Rumor is, she's doing SNL...

:wow:

[bdamomma]

56. where is that thread denying her that privilege on being on SNL

[anigbrowl]

13. Quite the little demagogue, isn't she

The woman totally creeps me out. I suppose the wingers have felt the same way for months about a charismatic democrat, but nobody is calling for anyone's death at Obama rallies.

[Mojambo]

14. It's almost comical.

Palin is larger than life.

[stevedeshazer]

15. Rec'd

I mostly dislike Dana Milbank but he occasionally nails it.

Like with this passage:

'McCain's swoon is largely out of his control, the result of an economic collapse that ignited new fears Monday when the Dow Jones industrial average closed below 10,000 for the first time in four years. That's why his lead in Florida polls, which once reached as high as 15 points, has turned into a three-point deficit.

But the campaign has reacted with recriminations (the St. Petersburg Times reported that the Florida Republican Party chairman, after questioning Palin's aptitude, was told that he couldn't fly on her plane) and now Palin's rage.

The angry GOP vice presidential nominee even found a way to blame the market decline on the yet-to-be-enacted tax policies of the yet-to-be-elected Obama.'

[Solly Mack]

16. You get the feeling the only reason she wasn't wearing a white sheet was because

the campaign made her change out of it in time?

[EFerrari]

20. Sarah can call out the racists much more easily than McCain can.

Imho, that's the job she was hired to do.

[Solly Mack]

21. Yes. She's the appeal to the fear base...and with reason

She's one herself.

The other day the headline read "Palin to defend 'traditional' red states"...and that should have told people all they needed to know about what was coming...hate and fear

[EFerrari]

22. This morning, Peggy Noonan was on WJ and she said

the campaign was about to get "really tough".

Her ability to so describe what is going down is a measure of how corrupt our politics are.

[Solly Mack]

23. It really is...

another indicator is the connection between McCain/Palin and (pick a well-known supporter)... Kissinger, for example.

Now, a well informed person...a person who understands and is appalled by the crimes of Henry Kissinger would be disgusted beyond all measure by that association...but in our government, where war criminals are given legitimacy, a lot of Americans would think I was crazy if I said there was something wrong with that, and the media would also join in and dare demand why anyone would disparage Kissinger that way.

Because America refuses to deal with her war criminals, both past and present, the legitimacy bestowed on these thugs by this cowardly refusal makes it harder to inform people of the dangers of people like Kissinger.

Obama can't point to McCain/Palin/Kissinger and say - "Look! McCain/Palin pals around with a war criminal" - Because America doesn't tell the truth about her own war criminals. America doesn't hold these people accountable. Obama would look like a fool for telling the truth about Kissinger...and all because America lies about the thugs and war criminals in government.

And it's not just Kissinger....look at the other garbage that backs McCain/Palin.

Think about all the people within the Bush admin. - both past and present. America gives them legitimacy by not telling the truth about them...by not holding them accountable.

And because of this, the people McCain/Palin are associated with, some of the most dangerous people in America...are given a wide berth.

You can't attack the association politically because the US government allowed these government criminals to get away with their crimes...so in the minds of people who aren't informed...you're just making stuff up. (or you hate America)

And those in DC who helped cover up the crimes by not holding the guilty accountable will also attack you for bringing it up. They would distance themselves and say how shocked they are that someone said that...all the while knowing that everything being said is true. But if you unravel one string of the lie, you could unravel all the lies...and they don't want that. Fact is, our government would rather deny us our rights, let people die, and torture people, than to ever expose the lies of government.


The corruption is so entrenched it holds the truth hostage...and that is by design.

I wouldn't be surprised if Palin was connected to the Army of God (they encourage violence and murder against doctors who perform abortions) - but since those crazies are given legitimacy in America by politicians who use language that supports these nut-cases, even if that connection turned out to be true...it wouldn't matter to many Americans. They would cheer Palin for being a part of clinic bombers and murderers.


Politicians appeal to racism all the time...so even if Palin did belong to the Klan, it wouldn't turn off a good many people. Politicians that pander to hate are just as guilty as those who act on that hate because they are elected leaders inciting violence against Americans. Politicians give their seal of approval of racism, sexism, and homophobia, and all the violence directed against people in those groups, each and every time they pander to hate and fear.

I'll stop..I'm ranting and probably not making any sense. Thanks for listening though!!

[Karenina]

29. You GO, GIRL!!!

:yourock:

[Solly Mack]

30. Thanks, Karenina!

I've got another 5 paragraphs...lolol

:)

[barbtries]

36. no, you make sense

great rant. keep going, and put it up on the front page.

[Solly Mack]

41. Thanks, barbtries

[myrna minx]

40. If I could recommend a post, I would.

You are totally correct. My fear is that since we haven't held Bush/Cheney and their minions accountable for their crimes, they will return in 5 years or 10, with some sort of legitimacy, because memories fade (look at Keating 5 and Iran-Contra), and they will attempt to seize power again. There will be a day where the media will say "Oh the torture thing...that was 10 years ago. Enron, that was 20 years ago"...

Look at Bush's cabinet and advisers. THey are true people of the damned of past administrations, yet here they are, the current architects of our destruction.

[Solly Mack]

42. Hi myrna! Exactly so...Many - too many - in the Bush admin.

are young enough to be around for a long time to come and all because these people won't be held accountable.

Mukasey claims that negative publicity is punishment enough for politicizing the (Gonzales) DOJ (hiring/firings, etc)...no accountability, no charges, no fully outlining the crimes and abuses of power within Bush's DOJ. Nothing but "bad publicity"

Compare that to this statement: "history will treat Bush poorly one day"

If the history book doesn't end with criminal charges and prison time, isn't that also just bad publicity?

Is that really punishment enough? Will what a book says about Bush/Cheney be enough to stop them?

We all know how the right-wing will turn facts around. They write books just to cloud the truth and introduce doubt...regardless of how tenuous the premise is for that doubt...and they do so by preying on people's fear, ignorance, and prejudice, as well as telling outright lies. (Liberal media! They hate America! They're not one of us! They want to take away our freedoms! They hate God! Bush never supported torture! America doesn't torture!")

And each and every time the guilty are allowed to walk away free, they are also allowed to continue their distortions and lies - and to maintain legitmacy...and that helps those doubts take root....which allows the truth to be clouded and makes it that much harder to get people to see beyond their own ignorance.

- Well, if Bush was committing war crimes then why wasn't he charged? - (So that must be lie since America is a good nation and we're the good guys and if a President ever did that we would put him in jail)


And if members of Congress are too afraid or too complicit to admit that Bush has committed war crimes...and too afraid or too complicit to charge him with those crimes....then how can the truth ever will out?

Our own government is working against the truth coming out...and with reason. Too many in the government are also guilty.

McCain got a slap on the hand for his involvement in the Keating 5. The whole of government polices itself based on the fallacious premise that as public servants their years of service ought to count for something when they use their office to engage in criminal/unethical acts.

But that's a breach of trust by an elected representative. An abuse of power by a member of government for self-benefit at the expense of the people - a very serious matter that no amount of prior public service can erase or change...or mitigate.

Yet a slap on the wrist and the slate is wiped clean.

Iran-Contra is another such example.

And we hear the excuse that it's just better for the people to let these people go free...that it heals the nation.

And you're absolutely right...We hear how it is all in the past, it happened so long ago, we can't really do anything about that now...when the fact is, they didn't really do anything about it then either...when it would have made a difference.

and the story keeps repeating over and over again....

[myrna minx]

44. Again, Solly, you state it perfectly.

Same as it ever was...

They'll all be back.

May I suggest you put this into an OP, so I may recommend to the greatest? You've identified something that has troubled me, but I haven't been able to put into words like you have so beautifully done.

Who on earth would have thought that Negroponte and Rumsfeld et AL would be allowed back into power, but back they stormed, with the horrendously predictable consequences of their maliciousness and contempt for our country.

[bunkerbuster1]

46. Nooners! Are you calling out the Jesus dolphins?

The ones that saved Elian Gonzolez from the sharks?

[EFerrari]

47. Wait -- there's a myth cycle with Elian Gonzalez?

Maybe I'll just wait for the musical. :)

[bunkerbuster1]

51. Just in case you weren't familiar with the reference...

here's the link to Peggy's hilarious, classic, crazy-ass piece:

http://www.opinionjournal.com/columnists/pnoonan/?id=95000429

And some of us, in our sadness, wonder what Ronald Reagan, our last great president, would have done. I think I know. The burden of proof would have been on the communists, not the Americans; he would have sent someone he trusted to the family and found out the facts; seeing the boy had bonded with the cousin he would have negotiated with Mr. Castro to get the father here, and given him whatever he could that would not harm our country. Mr. Reagan would not have dismissed the story of the dolphins as Christian kitsch, but seen it as possible evidence of the reasonable assumption that God's creatures had been commanded to protect one of God's children. And most important, the idea that he would fear Mr. Castro, that he would be afraid of a tired old tyrant in faded fatigues, would actually have made him laugh. Mr. Reagan would fear only what kind of country we would be if we took the little boy and threw him over the side, into the rough sea of history.

[katty]

57. sister sarah is really a super vicious bitch-proving it everyday

[and-justice-for-all]

24. That lying AIP bitch!! nt

[brettdale]

25. They are really desperate now arent they?

Her hate is showing through, there will be no low that is to low for her.

[depakid]

26. Best thing that can happen to the world economy is to relegate her back to the fringe

Every day she's out there, she and her ilk (who also belong on the fringe) just make matters worse for everyone around the world.

[JonLP24]

28. From someone (me) who has served in the US Army

and 1 tour in Iraq as a M915A2 from July '06 to July '07

Sarah Palin you are wrong.

[CJCRANE]

32. Palin relegates Republicans to the lunatic fringe nt

[IamyourTVandIownyou]

33. It's too late

She's gone too far
She's lost the sun
She's come undone

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=view_all&address=105x4030997

[mikeytherat]

38. She climbed a mountain that was far too high, and when she found out she couldn't fly

it was too late.

mikey_the_rat

[eridani]

34. Soldiers serving abroad certainly don't like McCain

OBAMA OUTRAISES McCAIN BY 6:1 AMONG TROOPS DEPLOYED ABROAD

If you are thinking of voting for McCain, ask yourself why that is.
http://www.opensecrets.org/news/2008/08/troops-deployed-abroad-give-61.html

According to an analysis of campaign contributions by the nonpartisan Center for Responsive Politics, Democrat Barack Obama has received nearly six times as much money from troops deployed overseas at the time of their contributions than has Republican John McCain, and the fiercely anti-war Ron Paul, though he suspended his campaign for the Republican nomination months ago, has received more than four times McCain's haul.

Maybe it’s his voting record
http://www.votesmart.org/

Senator Obama supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 80 percent in 2006.
Senator McCain supported the interests of the Disabled American Veterans 20 percent in 2006.

[MgtPA]

37. Debunked on CNN as FALSE - actual quote was "need more troops...

...so we're NOT just air-raiding villages and killing civilians"

[Virginia Dare]

49. Facts, schmacts...n/t

[FreeStateDemocrat]

45. McSame attack ad on local station this morning said the same thing, approved by the asswipe himself.

Really weak with a Obama alluding to the fact that our troops were in Afghanistan to bomb innocent civilians. But I'm in deep red country where some thought Russia was invading the US when it went to war against Georgia, so it should be effective with that idiot crowd. Repeat a lie enough times and some will believe it. This smear campaign will be effective enough to tighten up the race. Swiftboating works that's why they use it so effectively.

[B Calm]

48. How much more pathetic can she get? She's getting pretty desperate!

[Virginia Dare]

50. It'll get much worse I'm afraid..

mudslinging is all they have left, they'll be neck deep in shit by November 4th.

[bdamomma]

53. oh this woman is just spewing lies and more lies.

and promoting hate. She is one sick beetch.

[RainDog]

58. funny. Soldiers like Obama

there have been more donations to the Obama campaign than to the McSame/Talibornagain Barbie faction.

I guess they know something she doesn't.

Like, she's a skanky whore for the religious right.