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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:54 PM
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Palin was WIRED
Look over her right shoulder after Biden's first speech, about 3-4 minutes in. It's a loop of black wire.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hbDUa0yMCjo&feature=related

Like we didn't already kinda know, you betcha, but we got it for ya right here.
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The Velveteen Ocelot Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:54 PM
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1. Not that it did her any good.
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Poll_Blind Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:56 PM
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5. Ha! Indeed. She's a loser any way you cut it, dontchaknow. n/t
PB
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Warpy Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:10 PM
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22. No kidding, if that was the best they could feed her
then everybody with a brain has definitely already left that party.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:55 PM
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2. I think that was hair. nt
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nini Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:56 PM
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3. didn't they have microphones on?
how else could we have heard her so clearly say "can I call you Joe?"

Personally, I think that would have just flustered her to try and find her notes AND listen.
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Richardo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:56 PM
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4. Man I hope not, because whoever was feeding her THOSE answers is the biggest idiot ever
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:57 PM
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6. Are you sure that's not a piece of hair?
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 06:59 PM by SmokingJacket
Because if it were my wire, I'd stick it under my jacket.

on edit: And she didn't really talk like she was wired. Bush definitely did: weird pauses, and nonsense made of half-heard stuff coming out. She just spoke in large, memorized, mix-n-match chunks.

The questions didn't require any arcane knowledge; she got away with just repeating talking points.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:59 PM
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9. no way is that hair and if she was wired what a total waste, it literally did her no good.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 07:12 PM by chimpsrsmarter
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CTyankee Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:10 PM
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20. But why didn't we see it when she came out and greeted Biden?
We saw her back then, why couldn't we see the wire?

I'm not disagreeing with you, just questioning why we didn't see it when she walked onto the stage withher back totally in view?
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existentialist Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:11 PM
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24. No
She's the biggest idiot ever. However horrid her debate performance, it was better than her interviews.

She replaced pure gibberish with distortions and talking pints that didn't answer the questions asked.

It was bad--I certainly hope perceived as very bad by the middle, but it was a better presentation than her interviews.
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:57 PM
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7. I noticed it straight off
and it is no lock of hair, it is a quite wide wire cable!

:kick:

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Iwasthere Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 06:58 PM
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8. Where? I don't see it!
I want to but I cannot see it. Why doesn't someone post a closeup?
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SmokingJacket Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:00 PM
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10. I think it's at 3:35-37.
I don't know how to post a screen shot from it!
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:04 PM
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14. above her right shoulder
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 07:05 PM by CountAllVotes
you can see it. It is inflexible and doesn't move. You can see it in the same position when she moves (it doesn't).

I was just watching a replay of part of her at the debate on KO and saw it again no doubt about it.

Not that it means a damn thing necessarily (I hope that is ...).

:dem:

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:05 PM
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15. hold on, i took some screencaps---i'll let you decide pic #2 is the closest i could get




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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:07 PM
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16. yes, that is it alright
I see the same thing here still, a rounded cable that could be mistaken for a lock of hair.

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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:09 PM
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19. the second pic to me looks like a cable but i cannot imagine she could get away with being wired
maybe it's for a mic of some kind.
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FLAprogressive Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:10 PM
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23. YES -- someone tell KO/Rachel!
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:12 PM
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If you watch the video again, there's a moment when the cord makes somewhat of a curl.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:12 PM
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27. Here's a pic of her removing it!!
"
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:17 PM
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32. Wrongo
That's her left side. The OP was saying the wire's on her right side. There was a camera pointing at her during the debate where you could look right into ehr ear if you were so inclined and there wasn't anything nestling in it. WTF people...I saw Biden scratch his head during the debate as well, does that mean he had a a radio in his ear? Sheesh.
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:29 PM
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36. It's obvious that the wire went behind her back to her
left side, and the best place to hide it would be right out in plain sight, nobody would look for it there!
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:31 PM
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38. Hehehe!
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:30 PM
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37. He had a bug...bed bug. LOL
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sad sally Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:08 PM
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55. Maybe there was a buzzer under the band-aid on her hand
used to que her to the right index card. Maybe that's what all that winking and smiling was about.
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Tutonic Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:43 PM
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62. Pavlov's dog--she probably got a jolt from Randy Schuneman when
she responded incorrectly.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:58 PM
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51. WRONG SIDE, ASSHOLE!!!
Just kidding, really....I think this thread is hilarious.
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OmmmSweetOmmm Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:44 PM
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39. Hair.
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trueblue2007 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:44 PM
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47. I do NOT see a wire.
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itsrobert Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:04 PM
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13. Some cable? Was it her mic?
wire?
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:47 PM
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53. Too long to be her hair.
I thought it was hair also, but then noticed that it was way longer than her hair and looped under, which would make it at least three inches longer than her hair if it ended where it went behind her shoulder. I could be hair but it would sure be weird if it was.
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ThomWV Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:01 PM
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11. If she was wired they would have put it in the ear-loop of her glasses
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:03 PM
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12. You can see it clearly . . .
. . . on the video playback on Keith Olbermann... KO just started.

TYY
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:07 PM
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17. exactly
n/t
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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:08 PM
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18. Why would she need a wire?
To give answers to questions other than the ones she was being asked?
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:11 PM
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25. coaching her
telling her what to say ...

:dem:

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ibegurpard Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:13 PM
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28. They told her to give answers that had nothing to do with the questions?
Some coach
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CountAllVotes Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:19 PM
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33. proves how desperate and stupid they are
sadly, these same "coaches" have been running our country for the last 8 years. At least we know what going to hell and back is like!

We know enough now to just say no to McCain/Phalin.

OBAMA '08 so we can CELEBRATE!! :party:

:kick:
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stillcool Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:40 PM
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46. Not really. There are many questions..
that republicans can not answer to.
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pacalo Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:10 PM
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21. There was definitely a black cord in back of her right shoulder.
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paparush Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:12 PM
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26. We have remote controlled drone planes, why not remote controlled drone "leaders"?
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Wiley50 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:13 PM
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29. Well, Wasilla IS the Meth Capitol of Alaska
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 07:14 PM by Wiley50
As fast and as wordy as she was it really is a distinct possibility
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:16 PM
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30. That's hair. Take two and call me in the morning.
You know, I own microphones and receivers. I work in the film biz and I have a whole case full of radio equipment and years of experience in setting it up so the camera doesn't see it. All these 'OMG Palin is wired' threads are ridiculous. Yesterday it was 'The fix is in, she's WEARING HER HAIR DOWN - means she's planning to hide something at debate' but I haven't seen one person comment on the fact that this particular prediction turned out to be wrong.

Just give it a rest already, people, please. These are just as stupid as the FR threads saying the same thing about Biden.
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AlCzervik Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:20 PM
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34. plus her answers were terrible so what would have been the point?
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ben_meyers Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:00 PM
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42. What about Biden? His was hidden in a hair plug, I read it
at Redstate!
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torbird Donating Member (513 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:17 PM
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31. It's obviously her hair. You can see it on the video.
Her hair on that side is falling in front of her jacket and then has been flipped over the shoulder, where it is curled and moved upwards when she bobs her head.

Go to 4:58 through 5:40 at least and you can clearly see the loop of hair on her shoulder.

Sorry, everybody. I hate her, too. But she sounded too stupid to have been wearing a wire.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:28 PM
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35. Hair
Sorry, it's hair.
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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:48 PM
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40. that is NOT hair people. look from 3:35 - 3:45 in the split screen when
she moves away from the center of the split....it doesn't move with her...it pops up and it is horizontal across her shoulder. if she had dreadlocks that were lacquered I might agree with you.
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NeedleCast Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:50 PM
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41. And Biden, who was standing 10 feet away from her
never noticed a big black cable draped over her shoulder or chose to say nothing about it?

After the debate, with dozens of people standing in very close proximity, no one noticed it or questioned it?

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ladywnch Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:00 PM
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43. my bad. I just saw it again on KO. and it does appeared frayed....like hair.
the resolution on youtube doesn't provide enough detail.... I humbly apologize to all
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TeeYiYi Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:08 PM
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45. Even the resolution on KO made it look like a black cable. . . .
. . . However, if your watch the whole show, the 'cable' in the videos eventually devolves into frayed hair. Oops.

TYY :shrug:
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:57 PM
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49. Trust me...my wife is a licensed cosmetologist....
...and she agrees. We saw her from a left-side, quarter-rear-view camera angle, looking at Biden, and the "wire" was quite clearly strand-based, attached to her scalp.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:22 PM
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58. Yeah, it's hair. The kind of silky, beautiful hair you can have if you switch to crzzzzt
Sorry, had to change the channel. But yes, it is just hair. Anyone who thinks it is a cable really needs to take off their tinfoil hat for a while and let their brain cool down again.
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emilyg Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:02 PM
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44. No she wasn't. Carry on.
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:54 PM
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48. WRONG. It's a lock of hair with too much product on it....
I'm sure that we all want to believe she had an assist on this, but I'm satisfied that she was able to come up with all of her substanceless, vacuous answers on her own, purely by virtue of a three-day cram session in Sedona.

Get a grip. She wasn't THAT frickin' impressive, folks.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:58 PM
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50. Yeah, that's a wireless microphone wire...
They generally connect it through a person's clothing, to a battery/transmitter pack that they hook to their belt/skirt on their rear. Sometimes people think it might mess their clothing, or they are just prudish, so if, as in Palin's case, they run it up her collar, down her back. Maybe it wasn't secured well, because whoever did it didn't want to get cooties from touching her. Then again, maybe Tawd wouldn't let anyone touch her. Either way, it's not any hidden earpiece, it's a mic wire.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:58 PM
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54.  have never seen anyone not run the Mic wire up the front.

And how can that wire be popping out her shoulder when she is running it up the back of side or anywhere.



The shoulder is the LAST place to run this mic when you have a belt pack no matter which side over or under the clothes.





I don't use a lot of Lavilier mics but I have been in audio 20 years on and off.
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:21 PM
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57. Figure it out...
If she didn't want anyone touching her body, what would be the easiest way to get your wire behind her? You run the mic wire along the crease in her collar, down her back, and to the belt pack. If you had too much slack, she moved, or you didn't secure your wire, it could show. Just my observation, after using these sorts of things for 30 years.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:29 PM
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59. That sounds pretty unprofessional to me
Since the three of us in this thread are all audio folk, wouldn't it be a lot simpler to have her take the jacket off, clip the belt pack either on the best or on an inside pocket of the jacket, and then just run it from her back/side over her shoulder - clipping it to the jacket lapel after she put it back on?

I mean, she must be used to the things by now since becoming governor (I've seen her wearing them in a bunch of old videos), and I've never had a pol complain about the few moments it takes to fit one.

My objection to your theory is that if the wire were outside her jacket, a) it would have been a lot more noticeable as it went on and b) you'd have been able to see it on the wide shot of both her and biden where he's in 3/4 and she's almost OTS.
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slampoet Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:32 PM
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61. i'd have run it up the back but under the shoulder. over the shoulder and she could unplug it.
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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:45 PM
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63. Maybe my cables are just longer. I usually put a strain loop at the transmitter...
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Barrymores Ghost Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:15 PM
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67. Yeah, 220...221...whatever it takes...
"Mr. Mom" reference...couldn't resist. Sorry.

;-)
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RoccoR5955 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:10 AM
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69. You may be right, who knows...
At any rate, it didn't do her any good, she failed!
Well that's if you don't include the morons who were masterbating to the screen when she winked at "them."
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originalpckelly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:28 PM
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52. Wouldn't that have to be a mic?
How else could we have heard them talking to one another before they were in front of their podiums?

Don't you think that someone would figure that out and bring some type of scanner to one of these debates?
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npk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:19 PM
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56. Didn't they pat her down before she took the stage.
I mean she is a gun toting, wilderness, survivalist, right wing, lack of gun control, fundie. I mean If I were Joe Biden I would have frisked her myself. She could have been packing a pistol under her jacket. She could have fired at Joe's head in a tense moment during the debate.
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OPERATIONMINDCRIME Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:31 PM
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60. Oh Please. ROFLMAO!!!!!!
You are too much!

:rofl: :rofl: :rofl:
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WillowTree Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:50 PM
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64. Ya know, I noticed that myself and I just KNEW...
....it was going to cause a run on tin foil.

Get a grip, people! None of these theories holds an ounce of water. And surely had she had a big old wire curling up on her shoulder like that Biden and/or some of his people who were undoubtedly standing in the wings would have noticed it. Do you honestly think that not one person who was right there and would have had to have seen it would have screamed bloody murder about it?

What passes for logic around her just amazes me sometimes.

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Goblinmonger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:51 PM
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65. Why would she wear a wired earpiece
when they make great wireless ones that fit inside the ear canal so that nobody can see them? Certainly isn't a battery problem since they only needed 90 minutes at most.
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paulk Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:53 PM
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66. considering the weakness of her answers
I find that hard to believe...
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MrScorpio Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:16 PM
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68. They were mic'd
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donco6 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 08:14 AM
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70. She didn't need a wire.
She had everything on notecards and memorized. What purpose would a wire serve? A wire only helps when someone has at least a vague grasp of the topic so the person can whisper things like, "Mention this . . . mention that." Palin has no foundation to plug into any of that.
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