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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:07 PM
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Pelosi warned that bankrupt homeowners wouldn't get help in new bill....Kucinich verifies it today.
That is what Nancy Pelosi told fellow Democrats in a private meeting in September.

Pelosi told fellow Democrats during a closed-door meeting that the idea of letting judges rewrite mortgages to help bankrupt homeowners avoid foreclosure won't be a part of the emergency legislation. That provision, pushed by several Democrats, would be a deal-breaker for Republicans whose votes are needed to pass the measure, she said, according to lawmakers at the meeting.


So apparently they knew it when they voted for it today.

They also knew how bad the Bankruptcy bill of 2005 was when they voted for it. They knew it took away needed exemptions for the elderly, ill, and for caregivers.

It does not exempt debtors whose financial problems were caused by serious medical problems from means testing. It does not provide protection for medical debt homeowners. Homes and cars could be lost under this new plan if you have medical problems.

It does not preserve existing bankruptcy protections for
individuals experiencing economic distress as caregivers to ill or disabled family members.

There is no provision to insure elderly people in financial trouble who seek bankruptcy could keep their homes. Republicans voted down a provision for it, and 3 Democrats from states with big credit card industries joined them.


Good for Dennis Kucinich for verifying that and for calling attention to the great tragedy.

From helderheid's post today:

Woman, 90, shoots self inside foreclosed home

CNN) -- A 90-year-old Akron, Ohio, woman who shot herself as sheriff's deputies tried to evict her from her foreclosed home became a symbol of the nation's home mortgage crisis Friday.

U.S. Rep. Dennis Kucinich, D-Ohio, mentioned Polk on the House floor Friday during debate over the latest economic rescue proposal.

"This bill does nothing for the Addie Polks of the world," Kucinich said after telling her story. "This bill fails to address the fact that millions of homeowners are facing foreclosure, are facing the loss of their home. This bill will take care of Wall Street, and the market may go up for a few days, but democracy is going downhill."


Good for him for speaking out.

It is almost like they have been planning that a crisis like this would happen, and all the pesky details are already out of the way about the homeowners who might stand in the way of all the Wall Street power.

But, they will fix it all later. Famous words heard often these last 8 years. :shrug:

In the post I made earlier about what Pelosi said...I was told that first we had to get the Republicans on board. Then the profits from Wall Street would help the rest of us. The old trickle down theory. Hasn't that worked well. :sarcasm:

I don't have to understand economics to feel intense anger over a 90 year old woman who shot herself rather than lose her home. I don't have to understand anything else except that our country has failed its citizens.

Sick inside.








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OhioChick Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:09 PM
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1. I'm pleased to say that Kucinich is my representative.
He listens to his constituents.
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bdamomma Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:10 PM
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2. and the boyz in WH are getting everything they wanted from us
is it pitchforks and torches yet?
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:11 PM
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3. where are the folks who were pumping the bailout here?
since it passed, they're suddenly very quiet.

but they told us it was going to help the people.

yuk yuk.
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snappyturtle Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:24 PM
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4. Very, very quiet! I thought I would be seeing a lot of :woohoo:ing! nt
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TheWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:12 AM
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19. We have from some of the more ignorant and bellicose ones.
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annabanana Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:57 PM
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11. mission accomplished, I guess
I wonder if they got bonuses?
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dixiegrrrrl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:33 PM
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5. They just built a financial Berlin Wall.
We are on one side, our money is on their side, and there are a few checkpoints where they "let us" give them our taxes to pay for the tons of world-wide debt they have ran up.

And democracy is nowhere to be found.



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cui bono Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:36 PM
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6. Disgusting.
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mzmolly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:39 PM
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7. Which is why we need a new President.
eom
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frylock Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:40 PM
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8. i'll vote democratic, but it's because of shit like this that i'll never EVER register as a dem..
fucking shitters.
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Pastiche423 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:13 PM
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15. You'll vote for a dem that fucked us?
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:44 PM
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9. Politics, disgustingly, as usual. But, they have a storeroom of dry powder and a ton of excuses.
Not to mention an unlimited supply of glossy lipstick.
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TxBlue Donating Member (472 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:54 PM
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10. Pelosi needs to go - Get a new Speaker
Kucinich or Kaptur
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2speak Donating Member (382 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:58 PM
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12. No help because they know what is coming......
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:58 PM
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13. No regulatory stuff either? Maybe later?
That's what someone said earlier in CNN...that they might meet before Jan. to consider some regulations.

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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:31 PM
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14. >>It is almost like they have been planning that a crisis like this would happen,
"almost"????? The more I think about this, the sicker and more furious I get.
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depakid Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 09:16 PM
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16. Both of these matters will be revisited in an Obama administration
In 5-6 months.
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madfloridian Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:23 PM
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17. There should have been some way to at least freeze some of the foreclosures.
And they could have changed parts of the bankruptcy bill.
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AllHereTruth Donating Member (354 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:27 AM
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18. Emergency Economic Stabilization Act of 2008 / YEA-AND-NAY
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magellan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:38 AM
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20. I love your sig line
The pic is stunning, the quote inspiring. :thumbsup:
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Auggie Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:31 PM
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21. THROW THE BUMS OUT!!!
Not the all of them. Keep Kucinich. Barbara Lee of Oakland. I'm sure there are a few others.

The rest are too spineless to act, too rich to care, or too subservient of their corporate masters to vote otherwise.

WAKE UP AMERICA!!! GET PISSED!!!
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BrklynLiberal Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 07:18 PM
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22. They should have tried for a good bill...and let the repukes kill it.
Let the repukes take the fall for the "impending disaster" everyone was in a panic about..
It seems that the Democrats did all the compromising and giving away...and the repukes just sat there and will take credit for any
good that comes of this.
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