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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:16 PM
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Stolen elections, 9-11, 2 wars, Enron, spygate, Katrina, bailout, & the fucker was never impeached.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 01:16 PM by Philosoraptor
Once again, bush wins, and skates off into history sneering and smirking at us suckers. The last legally elected president was politically assassinated for a triviality, yet this monkey ass moron war pig profiteer always gets his way, always profits from failure and disaster, and always walks free and wealthier, while we stand around like cattle.

Just look at all he's gotten away with, and just look at him still standing there.

bush wins, and we lose, again, and again, and again.
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Epiphany4z Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:16 PM
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1.  somebody needs to volunteer to blow him
then we can impeach
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dkofos Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:23 PM
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7. I'd do it for a phenomenal fee. But I wouldn't guarantee not to bite!!
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Taverner Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:17 PM
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2. And Impeachment is off the table
:eyes:

Somehow, I wonder if this whole "Democracy" is one big dog an pony show to distract us from how much we're paying them to fuck us without lube...
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Hannah Bell Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:32 PM
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18. duh. we have the choice of which corporate stooge gets the corner office.
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tbyg52 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 07:58 PM
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48. Yes. nt
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PufPuf23 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:00 PM
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51. Essentially the Constitution and Rule of Law
is off the table.

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demnan Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:17 PM
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3. That's because we elect people like Nancy Pelosi
instead of more people like Dennis Kucinich.
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cutlassmama Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:17 PM
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4. And he'll skate off to Paraguay
and live on his 4,000 acres with pristine water and NO extradition laws.
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RedLetterRev Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:09 PM
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35. Actually, there is an extradition treaty
but AFAIK it has never been exercised.

Might be a first time for everything.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:20 PM
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5. Do we need more proof that the Dems never controlled both houses of Congress?
Fine, Dems controlled the house, but we have never controlled the Senate.

I hate when people refuse to see that simple fact: the Dems never controlled the senate and without the Senate, impeachment was impossible.

Thank you for posting this, maybe now people will be able to finally accept that simple fact.


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anigbrowl Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:24 PM
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11. You and your damn facts - always breaking up a good indignation party
First 6 years of Bush's presidency - Republican Congress. Last 2 years - Democratic house and tied senate. I wish the people who go on and on about impeachment would take 30 minutes and read up on what it actually involves before asking for something that's doomed to failure. I do think Nancy and Harry could have done a better job of explaining what the problem was, though.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:30 PM
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16. There was no way a Pelosi or Reid explanation would have been heard over ...
... the GOP-controlled media's propaganda.

No way.


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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:35 PM
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19. No, we wouldn't be able to *convict* him.
We could have impeached him any time since Jan. 2007. But odds are if we'd bloodied him plenty in a house impeachment hearing a year and a half ago, including using House powers to force testimony so the culprits would be rolling over on him and Cheney, some Republican Senators would have peeled off and they would have been convicted as well.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:37 PM
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23. That's assuming everything in the House would have been smooth and easy.
I do not trust that the GOP in either house would have been very cooperative or not unhelpful.

Plus, the GOP controls the media.


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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:59 PM
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41. Impeachment is not a partisan issue. It's a Constitutional one.
Edited on Fri Oct-03-08 04:00 PM by petgoat


Had the issue been brought up in hearings and the crimes reported
in the news media, Republicans would have recognized the necessity of
impeachment to protect the country and their Party.

I'm convinced that Eisenhower and Goldwater, were they alive today,
would be demanding impeachment.

And BTW, Dr. Freeman and Jonathan Simon will tell you the reason we don't
control the Senate is because of the Republican 5% shift in the vote of 2006.

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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:04 PM
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42. "Republicans would have recognized" I doubt the GOP recognize anything ...
... outside their own self interests.

Oh, well, maybe, the interests of their donor-corporations.


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petgoat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:06 PM
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43. Had Bush's crimes been exposed in Congressional hearings
and covered in the news media, public outrage would have been such that
Republicans would recognize that their own self-interest, the interests
of the nation, and the preservation of the Republican Party demand
impeachment.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:19 PM
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45. That's three conditions:
1. that the GOP DoJ would have investigated GOP crimes

2. that the GOP-controlled media would have covered it.

3. the general public would have shown enough interest to be outraged.

I'm not just disagreeing; I'm skeptical.

I wonder how possible would it have been for a brand new Congress to get anything done given that it would have needed the GOP DoJ's cooperation.




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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:46 AM
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56. No, impeachment charges are investigated by the office of the special counsel
Edited on Sat Oct-04-08 02:09 AM by clear eye
because it's understood that an administration's DOJ has a conflict of interest. The only thing that is required of the DOJ is after the initial hearings by the House Judiciary Committee, the AG passes it to the special counsel if it looks like the charges need further investigation. If the Judiciary Committee has done a decent job, the political pressure to allow further investigation will be overwhelming.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:22 AM
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57. You and your facts and answers and stuff. n/t
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Two Americas Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:01 AM
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55. they just did
For a while, anyway. Constituents opposed the bailout, and Republican reps voted against it.

Failing to advocate for something, or telling others not to, because it isn't practical subverts representative democracy.

The only way something will ever become practical in a representative democracy is if people strongly advocate for it.

Democrats make this mistake all the time. We have been living a 25 year Reaganomics nightmare. Finally, the general public turns against Reaganomics, and the Dems squander the opportunity.

One would think that the events over the last couple of weeks would have invalidated the be practical go slow play it safe strategy for good.
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bertman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 10:57 PM
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50. ColbertWatcher, we would have gotten the needed Senate votes IF all the charges had been
investigated and the lawbreaking and wrongdoing had been brought out into the light of day. The indignation would have been overwhelming.

Unfortunately, a certain rich liberal white woman Democrat kinda fucked it all up.

The Dems did not have the votes to impeach Nixon either, but once the evidence started mounting even the Republicans got on board.

So The Tricky Dickster resigned.
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 02:37 AM
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58. Well, I wish we could have gotten our liberal media to rally voters ...
... the way they were able to motivate people to contact Congress for this bailout.

Oh, wait, the GOP controls the media.

Sorry, my bad.


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bobbolink Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:22 PM
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6. That's what happens when everything is done by political "expediency"
According to Pelosi, there were other things that were so much more important than the rule of law of the land.

Haven't you seen all those important thing?

:nuke:
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:23 PM
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8. justice was off the table
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:23 PM
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9. Still waiting for that "Crime does not pay" theory to kick in
Or to quote my namesake "The weed of crime bears bitter fruit", which is apparently much easier to swallow when you can afford to wash it down with a bottle of Dom.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:26 PM
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14. In a lawless environment
it's the only thing that pays. Everything else is bullied to death. Welcome to the new United States, an awful lot like the old Sicily.
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:24 PM
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10. Not to mention signing statements
that allowed him (actually Cheney, of course) to flout the law as passed by Congress with impunity.
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MarkInCA Donating Member (403 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:25 PM
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12. While I have thought this also...
I can't get the scary thought of evil Dick being president. They could have gone after both, but that would have been much less likely. How sad is it when our president was the lesser of two evils?

:puke:
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Tierra_y_Libertad Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:25 PM
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13. But, consider the tonnage of dry powder that congress has accumulated.
And, similar accomplishments.
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:27 PM
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15. And with a lot of DUers cheering him on. n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:31 PM
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17. Who is cheering who on? n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:35 PM
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20. Answering that is against DU rules. n/t
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ColbertWatcher Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:37 PM
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24. Okay. n/t
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Swamp Rat Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:35 PM
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21. and torture
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4 t 4 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:39 PM
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28. I Love You Swamp Rat!! n/t
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Subdivisions Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:41 PM
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29. Damn, Swampy. You're work always amazes! Thanks! n/t
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:21 AM
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53. Welcome back, missed you!!!! nt
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Blecht Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:37 PM
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22. It's the media
The great propaganda machine enabled all this to occur. It couldn't have happened without them, and no real change can occur as long as they're entrenched.

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davidwparker Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:37 PM
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25. vote Pelosi out
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The Stranger Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:38 PM
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26. Ode to the Nancy Disaster
Oh, our Nancy Disaster,
She held the nation down,
While the Criminal Junta raped it,
Over and over and over,
Over and over and over again,
Oh, Nancy,
Nancy.
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Pooka Fey Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:38 PM
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27. I so hear what you're saying Philosoraptor.
Even in full 'outrage fatigue' for several years now, today I know this government can still get me up in a rage. What more harm can this fucker do until Jan. 20th? It's actually impressive, how bad he can fuck us over.
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Dover Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:42 PM
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30. It's not Bush per se. It's Big Energy and Big Finance and Big Pharmos that win.
It's a bipartisan affair.
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robertpaulsen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:50 PM
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31. Let's hope that Charlotte Dennett becomes attorney general in Vermont.
Vermont AG candidate says she would prosecute Bush for murder
Published: Friday September 19, 2008


A local candidate in Vermont has promised to charge and prosecute President Bush for murder if elected as that state's attorney general.

The Associated Press reports that Charlotte Dennett, who's running on the Progressive Party ticket to be Vermont's Attorney General, promised to appoint a special prosecutor to bring charges holding Bush accountable for the deaths of more than 4,000 troops in Iraq.

Dennet, speaking at a press conference in Burlington this week, said she would appoint Vincent Bugliosi as a special prosecutor in the case. A former Los Angeles County district attorney who was in charge of Charles Manson's murder case, Bugliosi has outlined his strategy against the president in his recent book, The Prosecution of George W. Bush for Murder.

"Someone has to step forward," Dennett said at a news conference with Bugliosi, according to AP. "Someone has to say we cannot put up with this lack of accountability any more."

http://rawstory.com/news/2008/Vermont_AG_candidate_says_she_would_0919.html
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clear eye Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:30 AM
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59. I'm afraid for her safety if somehow they don't prevent her from being elected n/t
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AzDar Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:51 PM
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32. Nancy. Fucking. Pelosi.
:mad:


An absloute DISGRACE.
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:53 PM
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33. Not to mention a million lost souls
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Maine-i-acs Donating Member (989 posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:56 PM
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34. He can be impeached after he leaves office.
Uncover what is covered next year, expose the lies, fraud and crime; investigate, IMPEACH, IMPRISON.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:09 PM
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40. he can, but will he??
highly doubtful.
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DinahMoeHum Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 02:27 PM
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36. There is always the "court of last resort". . .
'nuff said.

:evilfrown:
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jtrockville Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:06 PM
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37. TORTURE. The US tortures people.
If for NO other reason than that. What have we become?
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Dr. Strange Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:07 PM
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38. Mission Accomplished.
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dana_b Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 03:08 PM
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39. but I'll bet if Obama is elected...
and even glances at another woman or picks his nose in public, there will be hell to pay!! As wrong as those repubs are, some have steel backbones.
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GetTheRightVote Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:06 PM
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44. Worms are elected by us, they come from dirt and give us dirt right back.
:grr::grr:
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Philosoraptor Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 04:59 PM
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46. ................
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wildbilln864 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 05:03 PM
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47. So true! k&r! nt
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Laelth Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:28 PM
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49. He should have been impeached.
Unless he declares himself dictator for life, I will have to change my sig. line.

-Laelth
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Fire Walk With Me Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 11:12 PM
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52. Cattle get eaten.
However, enough of them together create what is called a stampede...
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windoe Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:45 AM
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54. Corruption so vast
makes it difficult to find a way in. So much money and power and influence, weapons and secrets have been consolidated over the years.

I am beginning to adopt the philosophy that one cannot solve a problem on the same
level it was created on. In other words, fighting this monster only feeds it.

Our revenge is to survive and thrive in spite of these criminals! Screw money, isn't worth anything anymore. Scuse the rant. I have little left these days.
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Norrin Radd Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 04:50 AM
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60. We win. Forged anew in fire, watchfires relit, vigilance replacing complacency.
Drawing more over to our camp. He leaves with nothing of real value.
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FlyingSquirrel Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:06 AM
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61. Bush's place in history is secure, regardless of the lack of impeachment.
Worst president ever. History will NOT vindicate him as he hopes.
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barbtries Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 05:43 AM
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62. that's it in a nutshell
really, really sick.
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ooglymoogly Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 09:26 AM
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63. And when a duped congress runs to kick the ball
they are always surprised it has been stolen again and again and again.
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Beam Me Up Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:18 PM
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64. I think it is FAR, FAR worse than you've indicated.
Everybody points their finger at Bush. This is understandable. But in reality he is the puppet, figurehead, PR person who catches all the flack (and adoration from a few kool-aid drinkers). That is his role, his function. Do you really think he* sets policy? I'm talking shock doctrine capitalism policy. Yes, he signs off on it, it is his responsibility, but he didn't 'come up' with this stuff. He's just there to rubbers tamp it, IMO. He is a clown that gets to play 'dress up president' and look all 'presidential' while the real interests around him get away with treason, murder, grand theft and all the rest of it.

These interests aren't going away. They've gotten TOO MUCH POWER to give it up now. They're going to carry this through to the end, aren't they? Recent events make this clear. They're bankrupting this country. That isn't a "mistake" -- that is their unspoken policy. They're not going to let any REAL opposition anywhere NEAR the criminal infrastructure they've put in place in the last 8 years. They would be fools to do so and, although they are criminals of the highest order, they are not fools.

There are only a few possibilities:

1) They are going to steal this presidential election like they have the previous two.

2) They are going to create another SHOCKING (national security level) event that will in some way disrupt the election process.

3) They're going to let Obama 'win' but create a situation which basically prevents him from carrying out any significant or meaningful reforms. AND, in the process, blame HIM and the Democrats for all the instability that follows in its wake.

The point is, theses "interests" are NOT going away. They have us by the gonads and they know it. Their aim is and has always been the effective overthrow of this Republic and they've gotten far too close to this objective to actually back off now. The plans have been laid for the dissolution of US sovereignty and the formation of the North American Union. THAT is their plan, their objective, and they are on-target. Why should they stop now?


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catzies Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 03:03 PM
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68. Nicely put. I vote for your #3 option: Obama won't get to do ANYTHING
both by design (theirs: "TPTB") and that he will find that Bush destroyed more layers, agencies and areas of government than we know about yet, and fixing everything that broke is going to take all of his time, attention and money.
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codjh9 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 12:21 PM
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65. And another thing that goes with that is that after his pathetic/bad first administration,
he was RE-ELECTED! Well, actually he wasn't - I think they stole it in OH - but even the fact that it was really close was one of those WTF? moments.
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Xenotime Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:27 PM
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66. All the more reason we need Obama in office. He will change the system.
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leftofthedial Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Sat Oct-04-08 01:28 PM
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67. you say all those like they're bad things...
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