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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:15 PM
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How counterfeit, defective computer components from China are getting into U.S. warplanes and ships
Dangerous Fakes
How counterfeit, defective computer components from China are getting into U.S. warplanes and ships

by Brian Grow, Chi-Chu Tschang, Cliff Edwards and Brian Burnsed

Video at link~

October 13, 2008


The American military faces a growing threat of potentially fatal equipment failure—and even foreign espionage—because of counterfeit computer components used in warplanes, ships, and communication networks. Fake microchips flow from unruly bazaars in rural China to dubious kitchen-table brokers in the U.S. and into complex weapons. Senior Pentagon officials publicly play down the danger, but government documents, as well as interviews with insiders, suggest possible connections between phony parts and breakdowns.

In November 2005, a confidential Pentagon-industry program that tracks counterfeits issued an alert that "BAE Systems experienced field failures," meaning military equipment malfunctions, which the large defense contractor traced to fake microchips. Chips are the tiny electronic circuits found in computers and other gear.

The alert from the Government-Industry Data Exchange Program (GIDEP), reviewed by BusinessWeek (MHP), said two batches of chips "were never shipped" by their supposed manufacturer, Maxim Integrated Products in Sunnyvale, Calif. "Maxim considers these parts to be counterfeit," the alert states. (In response to BusinessWeek's questions, BAE said the alert had referred erroneously to field failures. The company denied there were any malfunctions.)

In a separate incident last January, a chip falsely identified as having been made by Xicor, now a unit of Intersil in Milpitas, Calif., was discovered in the flight computer of an F-15 fighter jet at Robins Air Force Base in Warner Robins, Ga. People familiar with the situation say technicians were repairing the F-15 at the time. Special Agent Terry Mosher of the Air Force Office of Special Investigations confirms that the 409th Supply Chain Management Squadron eventually found four counterfeit Xicor chips.


THREAT OF ESPIONAGE

Potentially more alarming than either of the two aircraft episodes are hundreds of counterfeit routers made in China and sold to the Army, Navy, Air Force, and Marines over the past four years. These fakes could facilitate foreign espionage, as well as cause accidents. The U.S. Justice Dept. is prosecuting the operators of an electronics distributor in Texas—and last year obtained guilty pleas from the proprietors of a company in Washington State—for allegedly selling the military dozens of falsely labeled routers, devices that direct data through digital networks. The routers were marked as having been made by the San Jose technology giant Cisco Systems (CSCO).

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http://www.businessweek.com/magazine/content/08_41/b4103034193886.htm?chan=top+news_top+news+index+-+temp_top+story
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Hydra Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:17 PM
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1. Man...
Superpowers don't import their military tech, and this is why.
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shadowknows69 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:19 PM
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2. This is how we'll be beat someday
When we've outsourced everything. Someone will just flip a switch and turn our army off.
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aquart Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:19 PM
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3. See, we no longer have the capability of manufacturing our own components.
We literally cannot go to war without China's permission.

National security, my ass.
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mainegreen Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:21 PM
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4. This is a big problem in the computer industry.
Huge issues with channel by-back programs where companies like cisco are finding that the routers they are getting in upgrade deals are not actually cisco routers.

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Journeyman Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:23 PM
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5. So, Lenin was spot on but had it backwards. . .
The capitalists will buy the rope from the communists, and then most likely hang themselves.


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Betsy Ross Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:45 PM
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6. There used to be a requirement that
parts and equipment for defense had to be US made. It was considered the only reliable source for parts. Guess that went away with our manufacturing jobs.
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babylonsister Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 08:12 PM
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7. I was a gov't buyer many moons ago, and you're right. Buy 'made in
America' or don't buy it. So sad times have changed so drastically.
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