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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:14 PM
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Fact checks on tonight's debate
The Statement: At a debate Thursday, Oct. 2 in St. Louis, Missouri, Republican vice presidential candidate Gov. Sarah Palin charged Democrat Sen. Barack Obama of supporting higher taxes. "Barack had 94 opportunities to side on the people's side and reduce taxes, and 94 times he voted to increase taxes or not support a tax reduction — 94 times."

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The Verdict: Misleading. Palin's summary ignores the fact that some of the votes were for measures to lower taxes for many Americans, while increasing them for a much smaller number of taxpayers. The total also includes multiple votes on the same measures and budget votes that would not directly lead to higher taxes.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/fact-check-94-times/

The Statement:

During the vice-presidential debate in St. Louis on Thursday, Oct. 2, Republican nominee Gov. Sarah Palin criticized Democratic presidential nominee Sen. Barack Obama's opposition to the military "surge" in Iraq and said, "The surge worked. Barack Obama still can't admit the surge works."

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The Verdict: False. Obama has said the surge "succeeded beyond our wildest dreams" from a military perspective.

http://politicalticker.blogs.cnn.com/2008/10/02/fact-check-is-it-true-obama-still-cant-admit-the-surge-works/#more-22390

Facts go adrift on taxes, energy in VP debate
Republican Sarah Palin and Democrat Joe Biden clashed on positions

WASHINGTON - Facts went adrift on taxes, deregulation and more Thursday when Republican Sarah Palin and Democrat Joe Biden clashed in the vice presidential debate.

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/27001026/

this last one is statements by both candidates and fact checks on them.
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:15 PM
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1. Thanks for this fact checking thread. nm
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:18 PM
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2. Your welcome.
I couldn't take the debate so as soon as it ended I went looking for feed on it.
The chickens way of getting the facts. ;7
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texpatriot2004 Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Thu Oct-02-08 11:31 PM
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3. I actually remember Obama, at the Presidential debate saying
that the surge did work better than he expected...or something like that.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:30 AM
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4. Yes, he said it and mccain ignored it and kept accusing him
of not saying it.
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Kool Kitty Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:33 AM
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5. They don't care about the facts.
Facts get in the way of some really good bullshit talking points.
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rebel with a cause Donating Member (1000+ posts) Send PM | Profile | Ignore Fri Oct-03-08 01:36 AM
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6. They are so full of shit they stink. n/t
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